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> @"frareanselm.1925" said: > ... often people forget that the more DPS the shorter the fight is ... sounds good in theory, but the more hard is champ, the more sustain build should be or the fight will be really very short ))

> @"Buran.3796" said: > ...As I promised I've been trying that build from Roul Started play Guard some days ago to try the same build with champs/bounty solo content, we`ll see ) And as for condi Herald - fully agree with you, despite this spec far from DPS-leader specs but strong enough to do almost all champs/bounty Open World solo content quite comfortably.

> @"Nephalem.8921" said: > 33s sec first try as ren. Basically the same dps as vs golem... Sure, it is great result. I have no more question about Herald vs Ren DPS. It is really lot more. Thank you.

> @"Nephalem.8921" said: > The golem is used to reduce random factors. How much time you need to kill Mordrem Flower? > Maybe you just not good at condi ren if you cant kill the hp faster? Maybe. I have written earlier to you: _"On the other side, sure, I have not much experience playing Ren (I tried, but found nothing interesting to me), that is why maybe I did something wrong..."_

> @"AliamRationem.5172" said: > ... it is relevant to know how these builds perform under heavy pressure. I agree, but that's another issue, next step. They said, that Ren do LOT more damage. That is why I want to see this damage first in simplest challenge without any heavy pressure, etc., but in real fight, not on test golem.

> @"AliamRationem.5172" said: > Mordrem Flower is not a good test ... If one a LOT more damager than other, I will see it, that is enough and that is all that I want to see. Mordrem Flower is good only because it simple enough not to spend much time in defence, but cause damage + there are not many people around and you can fight solo much time - only those reasons. P.S. Your Weaver is cool )

> @"Nephalem.8921" said: > Yes. Renegade comes with vigor and perma 25might and a 10%mod. 25%vs bleeding. Also range and easy vuln access. Even a 15% condi dmg mod if you can melee and stack a bit might with mace. I have tested both in Mordrem Flower Hero Point (Auric Basin) and found not any significant distinctions in time to kill it (the same equipment, stats, runes - all the same, except for, of course, Short Bow and Renegade trait). If Renegade were a LOT more damager, I would've seen this, wouldn`t I (say, 2 min to kill as Herald vs 1 min as Renegade)? On the other side, sure, I have not much experience playing Ren (I tried, but found nothing interesting to me), that is why maybe I did something wrong... Can you make video with Ren in Mordrem Flower Hero Point ? It will be interesting to me to look at real Ren they're talking about. Or somebody can?

> @"Nephalem.8921" said: > Condi ren does A LOT more dmg than herald Have you tested, say, on some real Champ in OpenWorld both and have seen a LOT difference? > Going herald makes you even more tanky but you lose a lot. Lord Hizen builds focus way too much on survivability It makes sense. You can make 100% more DPS, but if the result of you fight is your death - what for?

> @"Buran.3796" said: > Condi Herald is more tanky and able to solo almost everything, but **kills at slower pace** I have tested Condi Herald and Condi Ren in Mordrem Flower Hero Point (Auric Basin), about 10 cycles, found not any significant distinctions in time to kill it. > is pure mele yes, it`s really so > power Renegade is a bit less tanky but does more damage as I said above, I found not any significant distinctions > can be played both at range, mele or mixing both styles that's right, but as another point of view, it`s can be some pain with creatures that has reflect projectiles abilities

> @"Virdo.1540" said: > In terms of raids ,fracs, even dungeons Why raids, fracs and dungeons ? I didn't mean this content. Sorry, but I mistook Whole PVE content (including raids, fracs and dungeons) vs OpenWorld PVE (including Champs and Bounty).

> @"Virdo.1540" said: > Its struggeling to compete with other classes in player-limited pve content. Herald don`t need to compete with any class in PVE content. It can do all content without any problem, helping other classes more than once.

> @"Kanok.3027" said: > > @"taara.3217" said: > > Have you personally experience with Ruye soloing as Herald? > > Yes. I've solo'd every single bandit champ and the legendary bandit executioner. I do it on an almost daily basis. I find them to be fun. Ok. But as for me, I found Ezal far more easy (soloing both) and that is why I found it strange that you told about Ezal as the hardest one... Also I would be grateful if you can make video with Ruye the same one as you have with Ezal. > Ezal, however, fires far faster than Ruye, almost twice as much It cannot be so as they use the same ability - **Chain Shot** The biggest problem for melee Specs with Ruye is his **Bonfire** skill that creates an AoE that lasts **20** seconds (while Ezal`s **Black Powder** lasts only **5** sec):  Sure, you can dodge it, but than you find yourself at range where you have not much abilities to fight. That is why it will be interesting for me to look at your playstyle in this situation especially as it more easy to you than Ezal.

> @"Kanok.3027" said: > > @"taara.3217" said: > > > @"Kanok.3027" said: > > > Ezal the Quick in Harathi Hinterlands, probably the hardest of all the Bandit Champions> > > Ruye the Crimson the hardest for all a-one-man (without Clones, Pets, etc. aggro/tanking creatures) Specs, including Herald. > > I find Ruye easy, even without a tank build... Have you personally experience with Ruye soloing as Herald?

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