Raknar.4735

> @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > @"vicky.9751" said: > > This gives a mastery point for icebrood saga. I have a druid with ascended healing armour and meta build, waited more than 30min in lfg and nobody joined in the end. > > _Something needs to be done about group content in this game._ > > Why do people need to join a discord, put an api key, and then get pinged endlessly for mostly **experiencd** groups or stuff that fills too fast? **this is not** a healthy way to get people to play these raids. I wish gw2 had a matched finder like other games, at least you would GET a party. > The low-effort "open world pve" population in this game actively rebels against any content that has a fail condition. Doesn't even have to be hard. Just needs to have a reasonable chance at failure. People wouldn't touch Octovine if it failed 2 out of 5 times. That's not "rebelling". It's not that deep, they just ignore content that isn't fun to them, simple as that. Waiting to play content is just the opposite of fun. But sure, keep blaming the open world population for instanced content not being more popular.

I'd like housing. Apart from Cantha and the creation of new e-speccs, we don't know what the features of EoD will be. We'll just have to wait and see.

> @"Fueki.4753" said: > Primordus has yet to actively corrupt anything living, so I doubt Braham will become its champion. > > And no, the Stone Summit don't count. > They accidentally did that to themselves, Primordus didn't do that. The Stone Summit was also converting to stone at the same time. So in the end, Primordus, or rather his power, did just corrupt stone, similiar to how Destroyers are created. I do wonder if we'll ever see Primordus-corrupted earth elementals.

People don‘t like wasting time waiting to play content. Most lobby content in GW2 falls into the wait to play category. Jump in and play is just superior.

Currently not playing any other MMORPG besides GW2, neither updates nor patches from other MMORPGs have been able to sound interesting enough for me to revisit them. I don't see that changing for now, since all of the MMORPGs currently in development (AoC, New World, Crowfall, Elyon etc.) don't seem too promising to me. We don't have any info on Riot's MMORPG and it will most likely take years for that one to release (could be promising, depending on which direction it takes). Aside from GW2 I'm currently playing PSO2 (mostly waiting for NGS), Valheim, LoL (currently less), Genshin Impact and PoE on new league starts. Finished Little Nightmares 2 a few days ago. I've never "only" played one game, I enjoy playing different genres too much to do that. So you could call GW2 a "side game", but not a "side MMORPG". I don't have "main games". GW2 did introduce a lot of optional grinds lately, like all of the weapon collections, but I've never really cared about skins I don't like, so they're easily ignored, as that grind isn't needed to progress in any way. So by not doing certain things like the weapon collections or playing certain content I can atleast share my likes by being a datapoint in the metrics for Anet. It is then for them to decide what they think is the best way to develop the game further. If it is more weapon collections, then other players seem to enjoy that more than I do, and i'm fine with that, even though I won't touch that content (This also reflects my behaviour on other types of content I don't care about).

Well, any new endgame system they implement shouldn't only be targeted at a small % of the playerbase, or it gets abandoned due to low playercount again.

> @"Sajuuk Khar.1509" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > She wouldn‘t share knowledge that turns out to be flat out wrong. > Yes she would, if she honestly didn't know it was wrong why wouldn't she? Obviously because she's the Goddess of Truth? She doesn't share lies. I don't see Balthazar going against his nature and spreading peace and water instead of war and fire.

> @"Narcemus.1348" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Sajuuk Khar.1509" said: > > > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > > > There may be a reason for that, but it's also established fact that Lyssa left Tyria with the others. > > > > Therefore she no longer has anything to do with us, who were left behind. > > > > Said reason can be as little as Lyssa disagreeing with the others and refusing to take away his godhood. > > > > > > > > Unless Arenanet retcons the fact that Lyssa left, or we chase the gods into the Mists, there is no way for Lyssa to become part of the plot. > > > There is no established "fact" that Lyssa left. > > > > > > Kormir claims she left, but Kormir isn't all knowing, and Lyssa is the goddess of illusions, and a twin goddess. Lyssa could have magiced her way into making it look like she left, or maybe one of the twins left, and the other didn't. > > > > > > You should never take anything an NPC says as literal truth. Developers write NPC dialog from the perspective of that NPC, a flawed being with limited understanding of the situation. > > > > Kormir isn‘t a normal „unreliable narrator“ NPC. She‘s the goddess of Truth. If her truth isn‘t an established fact, then everything she stands for as a goddess has no meaning. That would also mean, that the titles of the other gods have no meaning. Therefore Lyssa‘s title as goddess of illusion would just be a title, and not a truth. > > To my understanding, Kormir is actually the Goddess of Knowledge. Her title, being Goddess of Truth, has more to do with how she treats the knowledge. She inherited her power from Abaddon who was the God of Secrets, because he took all of the knowledge and hoarded it for himself. Kormir is called the Goddess of Truth because she is more open and sharing of the knowledge that she has, and as a Sunspear stood for justice, which means she prefers to expose knowledge under the light of Truth. This does not mean that she automatically knows everything or automatically knows the truth of every situation. The gods of Guild Wars are not omni-anything, but they do stand quite a few pegs above the power of humans. She‘s the Goddess of Truth and Knowledge, as seen in Facing the Truth. Her Avatar is the Seer of Truth [https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Seer_of_Truth](https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Seer_of_Truth). Of course she‘s not omni-sapient, but she‘s the Goddess of Truth for a reason. She wouldn‘t share knowledge that turns out to be flat out wrong. If she says that all the other gods left before her and even that Lyssa made fun of her for staying behind, then that is most certainly the truth.

> @"Sajuuk Khar.1509" said: > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > There may be a reason for that, but it's also established fact that Lyssa left Tyria with the others. > > Therefore she no longer has anything to do with us, who were left behind. > > Said reason can be as little as Lyssa disagreeing with the others and refusing to take away his godhood. > > > > Unless Arenanet retcons the fact that Lyssa left, or we chase the gods into the Mists, there is no way for Lyssa to become part of the plot. > There is no established "fact" that Lyssa left. > > Kormir claims she left, but Kormir isn't all knowing, and Lyssa is the goddess of illusions, and a twin goddess. Lyssa could have magiced her way into making it look like she left, or maybe one of the twins left, and the other didn't. > > You should never take anything an NPC says as literal truth. Developers write NPC dialog from the perspective of that NPC, a flawed being with limited understanding of the situation. Kormir isn‘t a normal „unreliable narrator“ NPC. She‘s the goddess of Truth. If her truth isn‘t an established fact, then everything she stands for as a goddess has no meaning. That would also mean, that the titles of the other gods have no meaning. Therefore Lyssa‘s title as goddess of illusion would just be a title, and not a truth.

> @"Lonami.2987" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Lonami.2987" said: > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > > @"Lonami.2987" said: > > > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > > > More of my candidates: > > > > > > * Nornbear/Svanir for obvious reasons (GS, MH Axe or MH Dagger) > > > > > > * Balthazar (may be too close to "human", and we already have Shiro) > > > > > > * Menzies as "Legendary Nightmare" (same problem as Balthazar, may be too closely tied to human) > > > > > > * Varesh (Margonite, very unlikely as she's too close to human and Mallyx/demon) > > > > > > * Torivos (dual axes, Legendary Envoy, could be a problem since he used to be human in the past) > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of them Svanir seems to be the most likely. Fits the evil role for balance, is part of a race that isn't represented in the revenants current lineup (Norn) and would fit into a selfish dps role (Glint and Kalla have been more on the supportive side IMO). > > > > > > > > > > The norn legend, if we ever get one, would be [Asgeir Dragonrender](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asgeir_Dragonrender). Svanir was just a random dude who got corrupted and had no power or relevance of his own. His only merit is being the first norn to get corrupted by Jormag. > > > > > > > > > > Legends should represent characters who had a great impact on history, plus a rich background that lets them channel unique powers not available otherwise. Also, they don't have to be GW1 characters, there's centuries of history, before and after GW1, be more original guys. > > > > > > > > > > Also, I don't think characters who were overpowered in lore work well, since they don't provide a realistic and enjoyable interaction. Shiro, Kalla, Ventari... you can have normal conversations with them. Mallyx and Glint are just terrible, they have nothing interesting to say since they're supposed to be god-tier creatures who know all the secrets of the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asgeir Dragonrender's only merit was fleeing from Jormag after being scared off due to Jormag threatening him. We know that and the Mists know, too. There's no unique power there, unless you want a "Legendary Fugitive" or "Legendary Liar". The Mists don't care what the Norn say about Asgeir, as the Mists know the truth about his actions. What is or what isn't noteworthy to be a Legend is decided on what leaves an imprint in the Mists. > > > > > > > > In comparison to that, Svanir is responsible for the creation of a whole cult of followers. The Sons of Svanir that could only exists due to the role Svanir played, warped the whole society of the Norn. His influence can easily be compared to the influence the Tablet of Ventari had over the Sylvari. > > > > > > > > We also already know that Svanir was relevant enough to leave imprints in the Mists, as one of his echoes is part of the Forest of Niflhel. > > > > So this "random dude" has already been more relevant to the Mists than Asgeir. > > > > > > > > Of course Legends don't have to be from GW1. They also don't have to be dead. They just need to have left an imprint in the Mists. > > > > It's still easier to guess what left an imprint in the Mists if we have seen the actions first hand. I know what Svanir did and how he influenced the generations of Norn that came after him. Just like how (Brandor and) Kalla's actions influenced the following generations of Charr. But we can't be sure that everything that has been told by unreliable narrators, which most NPC's and mortal characters fall into, is true. Asgeir is the perfect example for this. > > > > > > > > Edit: Also, wouldn't Asgeir being powered up by the Spirits of the Wild count as overpowered in lore? He did oneshot Jormag's champion with their power, after all. That wouldn't make the Legend about him, though, but about the Spirits of the Wild (similiar situation to Ventari and the Tablet). So since Mallyx and Glint are unfit to be Legends in your opinion, Asgeir and the SotW would be, too. > > > > > > Asgeir Dragonrender is the most famous norn hero, and also the founder of Hoelbrak. He literally saved the norn race from extinction; or cursed them into servitude, recent revelations considered (what really happened is not clear enough yet). Asgeir was also a mortal, who used a jotun scroll and the power of the Spirits of the Wild; he wasn't overpowered, since those weren't his powers to begin with. He's also the only known mortal to have injured Jormag. > > > > > > In the other hand, the only thing Svanir did was get corrupted, then killed. He did nothing useful or worthwhile in life. Svanir didn't create the cult either, he had nothing to do with the Sons of Svanir, those guys decided to pay a homage to him for some reason, long after he got killed. > > > > > > > Exactly, Asgeir is a Norn hero, not a Mist legend. Just a legend in Norn tales, but not reality. He made up a legendary lie to make the Norn move south. He has no unique power and was only able to injure Jormag with the help of the Spirits of the Wild. The only legendary part about his tale is the power of the Spirits of the Wild. He isn‘t fit to be a legend, unless the legend is about his legendary lie to the norn, or his legendary cowardness in front of Jormag. > > > > Ventari and the Tablet of Ventari only gained relevance as part of guiding a new race, long after Ventari‘s death. The same way Svanir, who we already know has echoes in the Mists, is responsible for the Sons of Svanir. It doesn‘t actually matter what your opinion about Svanir is here, since it is already a fact that the Mists made copies of Svanir and therefore gained Legend status in the Mists. We see one in the Forest of Niflhel. That echo is enough for a revenant to be able to learn to channel him. So for someone that „did nothing useful or worthwhile in life“ he‘s already more legendary than Asgeir by Mist standards. > > Ventari's teachings have forged an entire race, it's pretty much like Jesus for the sylvari. It works well as a semi-religious deity because he's not an actual god. Actual deities like Balthazar or Owl wouldn't work well as characters you interact with because they lack the "mortal" personality. Ventari does have problems though, since he has no special powers of any kind; fortunately, he has a magical artifact, his tablet, and the legend can focus on that instead. Kalla has a similar problem, but she summons warband members to compensate. > > Svanir didn't write anything. Svanir didn't leave anything behind. He's just a rabid dunce, who only talks once in GW1. He got unceremoniously killed, and was never a real threat to anyone at all. Also, he's not regarded as a hero, but a martyr. > > If you want a legend based on an icebrood character, there's dozens of far more interesting options out there. For example, the [Dragonspawn](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragonspawn), one of Jormag's champions who got killed shortly before the game's beginning. Unlike Svanir, he was a real threat who haunted the Shiverpeaks for centuries, killing or corrupting thousands of norn. I don't think dragon minions would be good legends, but still. > > Also, there's no game indication to define what's a "Mist Legend" or not. I don't think that aspect was ever relevant at all. The Mists remember what came before, and echoes of those who left an especially powerful imprint on the world of Tyria can still be found there. A revenant calls upon these legendary historical figures, bringing them back into action to enhance the revenant’s own abilities and power. [https://guildwars2.com/en/news/hidden-arcana-role-playing-the-revenant/](https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/hidden-arcana-role-playing-the-revenant/) So yes, being remembered by the Mists is an aspect of who can and can‘t be a legend. That‘s what channeling a legend means, interacting with the echoes left in the Mists. Svanir left behind a whole cult. A cult that changed Norn society at its core. And he already left an imprint in the Mists that we already know of. The Mists already deem him to be notable enough, that they have created at least one echo, the one we see in the Forests of Nifhlel. It‘s not about what I want to be a legend, but about who are likely candidates. And already having echoes in the Mists makes him a strong candidate, even if you don‘t like it. The Dragonspawn didn‘t affect the world of Tyria in any major way, aside from killing a multitude of Norn. He wasn‘t responsible for any big change. I doubt he‘d be a likely candidate. IMO he‘s also less interesting than Asgeir, a „Legendary Liar“ would be more interesting than one of Jormag‘s proxies.

> @"Lonami.2987" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Lonami.2987" said: > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > More of my candidates: > > > > * Nornbear/Svanir for obvious reasons (GS, MH Axe or MH Dagger) > > > > * Balthazar (may be too close to "human", and we already have Shiro) > > > > * Menzies as "Legendary Nightmare" (same problem as Balthazar, may be too closely tied to human) > > > > * Varesh (Margonite, very unlikely as she's too close to human and Mallyx/demon) > > > > * Torivos (dual axes, Legendary Envoy, could be a problem since he used to be human in the past) > > > > > > > > Out of them Svanir seems to be the most likely. Fits the evil role for balance, is part of a race that isn't represented in the revenants current lineup (Norn) and would fit into a selfish dps role (Glint and Kalla have been more on the supportive side IMO). > > > > > > The norn legend, if we ever get one, would be [Asgeir Dragonrender](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asgeir_Dragonrender). Svanir was just a random dude who got corrupted and had no power or relevance of his own. His only merit is being the first norn to get corrupted by Jormag. > > > > > > Legends should represent characters who had a great impact on history, plus a rich background that lets them channel unique powers not available otherwise. Also, they don't have to be GW1 characters, there's centuries of history, before and after GW1, be more original guys. > > > > > > Also, I don't think characters who were overpowered in lore work well, since they don't provide a realistic and enjoyable interaction. Shiro, Kalla, Ventari... you can have normal conversations with them. Mallyx and Glint are just terrible, they have nothing interesting to say since they're supposed to be god-tier creatures who know all the secrets of the universe. > > > > > > > Asgeir Dragonrender's only merit was fleeing from Jormag after being scared off due to Jormag threatening him. We know that and the Mists know, too. There's no unique power there, unless you want a "Legendary Fugitive" or "Legendary Liar". The Mists don't care what the Norn say about Asgeir, as the Mists know the truth about his actions. What is or what isn't noteworthy to be a Legend is decided on what leaves an imprint in the Mists. > > > > In comparison to that, Svanir is responsible for the creation of a whole cult of followers. The Sons of Svanir that could only exists due to the role Svanir played, warped the whole society of the Norn. His influence can easily be compared to the influence the Tablet of Ventari had over the Sylvari. > > > > We also already know that Svanir was relevant enough to leave imprints in the Mists, as one of his echoes is part of the Forest of Niflhel. > > So this "random dude" has already been more relevant to the Mists than Asgeir. > > > > Of course Legends don't have to be from GW1. They also don't have to be dead. They just need to have left an imprint in the Mists. > > It's still easier to guess what left an imprint in the Mists if we have seen the actions first hand. I know what Svanir did and how he influenced the generations of Norn that came after him. Just like how (Brandor and) Kalla's actions influenced the following generations of Charr. But we can't be sure that everything that has been told by unreliable narrators, which most NPC's and mortal characters fall into, is true. Asgeir is the perfect example for this. > > > > Edit: Also, wouldn't Asgeir being powered up by the Spirits of the Wild count as overpowered in lore? He did oneshot Jormag's champion with their power, after all. That wouldn't make the Legend about him, though, but about the Spirits of the Wild (similiar situation to Ventari and the Tablet). So since Mallyx and Glint are unfit to be Legends in your opinion, Asgeir and the SotW would be, too. > > Asgeir Dragonrender is the most famous norn hero, and also the founder of Hoelbrak. He literally saved the norn race from extinction; or cursed them into servitude, recent revelations considered (what really happened is not clear enough yet). Asgeir was also a mortal, who used a jotun scroll and the power of the Spirits of the Wild; he wasn't overpowered, since those weren't his powers to begin with. He's also the only known mortal to have injured Jormag. > > In the other hand, the only thing Svanir did was get corrupted, then killed. He did nothing useful or worthwhile in life. Svanir didn't create the cult either, he had nothing to do with the Sons of Svanir, those guys decided to pay a homage to him for some reason, long after he got killed. > Exactly, Asgeir is a Norn hero, not a Mist legend. Just a legend in Norn tales, but not reality. He made up a legendary lie to make the Norn move south. He has no unique power and was only able to injure Jormag with the help of the Spirits of the Wild. The only legendary part about his tale is the power of the Spirits of the Wild. He isn‘t fit to be a legend, unless the legend is about his legendary lie to the norn, or his legendary cowardness in front of Jormag. Ventari and the Tablet of Ventari only gained relevance as part of guiding a new race, long after Ventari‘s death. The same way Svanir, who we already know has echoes in the Mists, is responsible for the Sons of Svanir. It doesn‘t actually matter what your opinion about Svanir is here, since it is already a fact that the Mists made copies of Svanir and therefore gained Legend status in the Mists. We see one in the Forest of Niflhel. That echo is enough for a revenant to be able to learn to channel him. So for someone that „did nothing useful or worthwhile in life“ he‘s already more legendary than Asgeir by Mist standards.

Free skin /shrug

> @"Lonami.2987" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > More of my candidates: > > * Nornbear/Svanir for obvious reasons (GS, MH Axe or MH Dagger) > > * Balthazar (may be too close to "human", and we already have Shiro) > > * Menzies as "Legendary Nightmare" (same problem as Balthazar, may be too closely tied to human) > > * Varesh (Margonite, very unlikely as she's too close to human and Mallyx/demon) > > * Torivos (dual axes, Legendary Envoy, could be a problem since he used to be human in the past) > > > > Out of them Svanir seems to be the most likely. Fits the evil role for balance, is part of a race that isn't represented in the revenants current lineup (Norn) and would fit into a selfish dps role (Glint and Kalla have been more on the supportive side IMO). > > The norn legend, if we ever get one, would be [Asgeir Dragonrender](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asgeir_Dragonrender). Svanir was just a random dude who got corrupted and had no power or relevance of his own. His only merit is being the first norn to get corrupted by Jormag. > > Legends should represent characters who had a great impact on history, plus a rich background that lets them channel unique powers not available otherwise. Also, they don't have to be GW1 characters, there's centuries of history, before and after GW1, be more original guys. > > Also, I don't think characters who were overpowered in lore work well, since they don't provide a realistic and enjoyable interaction. Shiro, Kalla, Ventari... you can have normal conversations with them. Mallyx and Glint are just terrible, they have nothing interesting to say since they're supposed to be god-tier creatures who know all the secrets of the universe. > Asgeir Dragonrender's only merit was fleeing from Jormag after being scared off due to Jormag threatening him. We know that and the Mists know, too. There's no unique power there, unless you want a "Legendary Fugitive" or "Legendary Liar". The Mists don't care what the Norn say about Asgeir, as the Mists know the truth about his actions. What is or what isn't noteworthy to be a Legend is decided on what leaves an imprint in the Mists. In comparison to that, Svanir is responsible for the creation of a whole cult of followers. The Sons of Svanir that could only exists due to the role Svanir played, warped the whole society of the Norn. His influence can easily be compared to the influence the Tablet of Ventari had over the Sylvari. We also already know that Svanir was relevant enough to leave imprints in the Mists, as one of his echoes is part of the Forest of Niflhel. So this "random dude" has already been more relevant to the Mists than Asgeir. Of course Legends don't have to be from GW1. They also don't have to be dead. They just need to have left an imprint in the Mists. It's still easier to guess what left an imprint in the Mists if we have seen the actions first hand. I know what Svanir did and how he influenced the generations of Norn that came after him. Just like how (Brandor and) Kalla's actions influenced the following generations of Charr. But we can't be sure that everything that has been told by unreliable narrators, which most NPC's and mortal characters fall into, is true. Asgeir is the perfect example for this. Edit: Also, wouldn't Asgeir being powered up by the Spirits of the Wild count as overpowered in lore? He did oneshot Jormag's champion with their power, after all. That wouldn't make the Legend about him, though, but about the Spirits of the Wild (similiar situation to Ventari and the Tablet). So since Mallyx and Glint are unfit to be Legends in your opinion, Asgeir and the SotW would be, too.

> @"Kodama.6453" said: > > @"Dadnir.5038" said: > > > > To be honest, I don't think togo had enough of an impact to become a legend. As a GW1 player I'd be very tempted to but that's all. > > > > From my point of view, the next revenant e-spec's legend won't be another human legend. I think a prime candidate for an e-spec would be "Nightmare" with Kanaxai as a legendary Nightmare (which is listed both as a demon and a nightmare). I'd model the e-spec after the mesmer with an inbuilt (Upkeep F skill) way to create a nightmare (clone) based on your current legend that harass your target and/or support your allies. It's skills could be _aspects_ (there is 16 of them to chose from in Kanaxai's instance so there is enough material for ANet to make something) working similarly to Herald's facet but as debuff instead of buff (or each of these skills creating a nightmare with an upkeep). Weapon being Off-hand axe because "kanaxai's flavor". > > > > If I let my fantasy lead me I'd even say that the dreamy aspect of EoD teaser support my claim ;) > > What I don't understand is why people are always saying that the next legend won't be a human _again_ as if there would be an overrepresentation of humans in revenants legends. > > There is just 1 human legend for revenant, Shiro. All the other legends are not human. > * Ventari -> Centaur > * Mallyx -> Demon > * Jalis -> Dwarf > * Glint -> Dragon > * Kalla -> Charr > > So I think a human legend is still very well possible. That's exactly why I'm saying the "human"-slot has already been used. 2 humans would throw everything off-balance. Probably also the reason why revs started off with Mallyx instead of Varesh. I doubt another human legend will happen. Svanir still seems to be the most likely candidate to me after IBS concludes and we enter Cantha, as a Norn-Legend.

Base skyscale face looks better than any of the pricey skyscale skins imho.