EdwinLi.1284

I am curious what kind of Elite Spec Engineer may get if it is a Elite Spec that focus on manipulating Quantum

I am honestly far more interested in make the new Cantha Elite Spec one that gives players options between Direct DPS, Support, and Condition DPS by choosing which path in the skill tree. For example, Tier 2, Tier 4, and Tier 6 passive of the skill tree are where players always choose their playstyle between 3 passives. they can design Tier 2 where players choose their gameplay focus with 1st passive increasing Power damage, Crit chance, and Crit damage (Direct DPS path), 2nd passive focus on giving buffs, healing, and/or shields to the player and allies around them by using Weapon, belt, and utility skills but no Damage increase in neither Direct nor condition damage, and 3rd passive focus on buffing condition damage, condition duration, and add 1 extra stack of conditions applied to enemies. After Tier 2 the Tier 4 and Tier 6 becomes more focus on if players wish to mix up their gameplay or be more directly focused on a specific gameplay style.

> @"Kodama.6453" said: > > @"Oxstar.7643" said: > > I... went with the last option. Sorry, but having a big metal pal is just a big engineer fantasy. The things we create are supposed to be our strength after all. > > Engineers do not use magic. And they lack the training of warriors, thieves, and rangers. BUT! They have a lot of tools and creative minds. That should be the core strength. So, golem lends itself very well to this =) > > I consider a "golemancer" spec to be literally the worst case scenario for the engineer... > > * it would likely end up with AI in some form, which generally is bad in this game (there is a reason gyros got reworked into wells) > * it doesn't add anything **new** to the game, we all already saw pet golems countless of times and also have driven a golem mecha suit so often that I lost count. And if you really want it badly, you can create an Asuran engineer and have the golem summon or mecha suit as your racial elite skill... > * it uses the Asuran aesthetics and flair, which holosmith already did as our last elite spec Might as well just make it a Ironman suite and be done with it anyways. That is all certain people ask for when they want a Engineer Elite Spec that specialize in piloting a Golem/Mech.

Imagine they actually made Engineer Cantha elite spec the Commando and focus on Utility Command skills which are basically large range AoE Shout party buffs and enemy debuffs

> @"Fueki.4753" said: > > @"EdwinLi.1284" said: > > Primordus is for certain not doing this out of desire for destruction alone because if so then he will not seek to create a world where all life are basically Destroyers and filled with lava. > Yet we have not seen Primordus doing anything other than destroying and creating Destroyers to destroy things. > As far as we know, Primordus has **not** corrupted anything yet. > If you are thinking of the magma Stone Summit Dwarves, that transformation is **not** something Primordus did. > They accidentally corrupted themselves with Primordus' essence in an attempt to stay alive, rather than becoming stone. I never once thought about the Stone Summit Dwarves because we just never seen them again after that one mission. So I avoid talking about them until further development for them. Worst case Anet may have completely forgotten about the Stone Summit since we have never seen them again after that one mission. Now back on topic: There is just too much to be certain yet what Primordus goals are. We know his actions for creating destruction but we yet to look into his mind into why. It is easier to judge a being through actions alone but harder to understand them only through actions.

> @"Teratus.2859" said: > Dunno why some of you guys want Primordus redeemed, if anything I want him to be exactly what we expect him to be.. a being of pure destruction and evil. > We already had this redemption not it's fault thing with Kralkatorrik, no need to do that again specially with Primordus. > > We've already got Jormag playing the "im not bad really" card while clearly being a bad dragon. > For Primordus I want to be dealing with essentially a pure evil, living nuclear bomb who's only agenda is to watch the world burn. > That to me makes him far, far more dangerous than any other enemy we've had in Gw2, including the other Elder Dragons and I want to see that represented in the game with us feeling almost completely useless and outclassed compared to him. > We came close to something like that with Kralkatorrik but in the end it was just setback after setback. > > With Primordus they need to go all the way.. like Smaug in the hobbit when he just flies off and destroys lake town while the heros can do nothing but watch the carnage completely helpless to do anything.. I hope we get something like that with Primordus where we see the cost of our failure through the carnage and destruction he wages on the world and the regret that we once spared his life really kicks us in the gut. > I want Dragon's Watch to be brought to the absolute brink of giving up and accepting the end of the world due to witnessing the sheer power of Primordus. I never said anything about redeeming Primordus. I am talking about how little we understand Primordus' mindset beyond just actions of destroying lands to a point only rocks, lava, and magma remains. He is the only Elder Dragon we currently encountered that has little insight into his own mind and thinking but we know for certain he does have a mind to act out his actions. Primordus is for certain not doing this out of desire for destruction alone because if so then he will not seek to create a world where all life are basically Destroyers and filled with lava. There are certainly many speculations about why Primordus maybe doing this such as he can't survive outside of lava and magma so a world filled with Magma and lava is probably the only world he can be free from his prison of being stuck underground. Understanding what Primordus is thinking is the last piece we need to understand his reasoning for why he seeks to recreate the world as a lava filled world.

> @"draxynnic.3719" said: > Personally, I'm wondering if part of the reason why Primordus is being more aggressive is that he's feeling more _threatened._ > > Balthazar nearly killed him, after all. Furthermore, he probably senses that Jormag has just had a big power spike, and if the Jormag-Primordus rivalry has been going on for a while (and the two apparently fought during the last Dragonrise, so that does appear to be the case), Primordus sensing a sharp increase in Jormag's power might lead him to desperately grab as much as he could to ensure he gets the upper hand. > > Makes me wonder who actually started the rivalry. If Jormag's been actively seeking Primordus' death, and Jormag has a track record of manipulating mortals to try to achieve that, then... well, Primordus's behaviour would be consistent with a being that's been attacked so many times that his instinct is to find a deep hole to hide in and then push any potential threats as far away as possible. We never really had much insight into the mind of Primordus from the beginning anyways. Hard to tell if he does this out of personal fear or simply because he just craves destruction for the sake of it. He is probably the one Elder Dragon we encounter that we don't have much understand about in a personality level compared to other Elder Dragons we encountered so far where we get some kind of understanding about them with each encounter. -Zhaitan wanted the entire world to be Undead because life between being dead and alive was his ideal world where it is free from the fears of dying and living. -Jormag is all about preserving the world in Ice to put it in a eternal stagnation so nothing will ever change and no one can ever harm each other when frozen. -Mordremoth was just "My mind is the only one that matters" so his ideal world was one where everything is linked together under one mind and one body being his mind and body. -Kralkatorrik was just going crazy because he consumed way too much magical energy to a point his mind split into two personalites being one side is his original personality probably before Elder Dragons became Elder Dragons and the other being a chaotic destruction seeking maniac.

> @"Tyson.5160" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > Can someone clarify a possible misunderstanding of mine. I believe it is stated that Jormag's ice can't be melted by Primordus' fire in one of the DRMs and freezing people is helping to preserve/protect them. Maybe I misheard that bit of diaolgue completely, but if that's true, how can that work if Jormag is weak to Primordus? > > Yeah it was from the Lake Doric DRM: > > Ryland Steelcatcher: Destroyers can't burn Jormag's Frozen. This is how we destroy Primordus. Get your priorities in order. > Crecia Stoneglow: What's wrong with you? These aren't fighters, they're farmers. You're cutting down innocent people! > Ryland Steelcatcher: They're not dead. One day, long after you've lived and died, they'll thaw. And I'll be there to lead them. > Ryland Steelcatcher: Until then, their sacrifice will help unchain Jormag. Welcome to the new world. > > So... yeah your right, it doesn’t make a lot of sense unless, this is a new ability that Jormag has acquired from Kralkatorrik as he was also able to encase people in crystal. If this a combined ice and crystal, making it resistant to the fire magic, then it would make sense why Primordus can’t burn it. It is most likely the result of Kralkatorrik side of magic fusing with Jormag's Ice. Now Jormag's Ice is like being frozen in Crystals and may have develop magic resistance to heat. This maybe of course is a flaw in Ryland's plan and expectations because if Jormag's Ice is now naturally resistance to heat because of Kralk's magic fused into her own magic then these people will forever be frozen and never thaw out. However, this is a case of being too blinded by all the promises from Jormag for something that is uncertain will happen or not because these promises require a very long time to happen so he can't see beyond the trees in this forest of lies Jormag has placed him into.

> @"draxynnic.3719" said: > Mmmn. Of course, any Canthan Assassin-themed elite spec is going to have pistols as long as its based on Thief, and I'd be really surprised if it wasn't. So they'll _have_ them, but they won't be their signature weapon. > > Yeah, the lack of guns among Joko's forces was something I noticed as well. I'd guess that if guns had only recently arrived in Elona, the majority of Awakened would have been alive before guns arrived and thus would be more comfortable using the weapons they were used to. Most if not all Awakened also seem to be magically enhanced in one way or another rather than using more 'mundane' attacks, too, so maybe there wasn't much value seen in making the switch from magically enhanced bows. > > (It's worth noting that from what we can see ingame the Seraph also seem to prefer bows over rifles, even though rifles are clearly known in Kryta.) It is most likely due to how much technology was allowed to advance. For Joko, he probably kept technology down to still bows and arrows to prevent creations of technology that may expose him. Only the Order of Whispers that remained in Elona manage to use guns as shown by how they created the Deadeye Elite Specialization since they did not restrict themselves to Joko's standards on what is allowed. Cantha on the other hand may have allowed their own technology to advance enough to introduce Guns as a common use but that is assuming the Canthan Emperor allowed it to reach that point.

I think we may need more information on how Jormag and Primordus are adjusting the magic of other Elder Dragons to better understand this. We know Primordus minions are back to looking like they use to be because he has readjusted the magical energy of the other Elder Dragons he absorbed. However, it does appear they lost certain powers but may have gained some kind of new power due to these adjustments.

> @"The Greyhawk.9107" said: > > @"Hannelore.8153" said: > > Basically its because the Dwarves have held him back for most of that time. > > > > Lore-wise, very few Destroyers have made it to the surface, and its repeatedly stated in the Personal Story to be cause for alarm when they do. But slowly over the years we have seen more and more Destroyers, culminating with them flooding the entire maps of Ember Bay and Draconis Mons prior to putting Primordus to sleep. This is even commented on several times in those campaigns. > > > > Primordus was always a serious threat, it was just never expected the Dwarves would lose their battle. The amount of Destroyers in Tyria was formerly very small compared to all the Branded, Icebrood and Risen. > > It certainly seemed that way for the longest time, though I don't think anyone from either the player base of the characters genuinely thought that the dwarves were going to hold out for forever, but Anet randomly tossing in a bunch of dwarves for the first time (other than Ogden and the guy thats only a head) seems to put a wrench in that, or at least it feels like it does. There's also the change in tactics, focusing on targets that are comparatively more heavily populated. from the first Champion trailer, there may have been a bit more story missions involving the dwarf's return before that specific Story mission but they may have been scrapped due to internal issues with finishing those content in the planned schedule. A good amount of Champion's story feels like it is missing due to the current state of our world today from how work places must work under certain limits just to keep working.

> @"Sajuuk Khar.1509" said: > The Human gods were incredibly powerful beings from another world, and the Elder Dragons have long been presented as Tyria's equivalent, or near so. I find it unlikely there are more beings of equal, or even near equal, power on Tyira. Or else the Elder Dragons would be off trying to kill them to take their powers. Any god involvement is most likely going to come form Lyssa, who likely never really left, or only half left since she is a twin. Remember the Human Gods appeared during the time when all Elder Dragons were a sleep and remained unaware of Elder Dragon's existence until their awakening. they have also kept their influence only to the region we have known since GW1 which is only 20% of the entire planet and has never explored beyond these regions themselves from our current knowledge. We also learn that there are suggestions of other Human civilization before the arrival of the Humans that worship the 7 gods we know now. Such developments is bound to lead into different civilizations that worship other Gods even if those Gods are created from stories that have been overly exaggerating mortals that have done incredible things. Our understanding of Tyria and the cultures have been very limited to only the knowledge of the places we have known since GW1. To assume the 7 Gods are the only Gods that manage to find Tyria from the Mist is a debatable topic in general since we know so little about other civilizations beyond the locations we know about now. The Elder Dragons have also been locked within the regions of GW2. Their entire plan is to conquer the region we play in now before moving on to the remaining 80% of the world. If there are other Gods beyond in the other Civilizations we have not seen yet then the current plan for Elder Dragons are most likely to save them for after establishing the place we play in as their main base of operations before moving on to them or they remain unaware of other Gods existance since the Elder Dragons have all been so focused on capturing the location where we have been playing in for so long. I honestly, won't be surpised once we enter these other civilizations that they may make a "Elder Dragon what?" and "What do you mean the world almost ended? You must be crazy." type of thoughts and statements since only the regions we have been playing in since GW1 had to face the wrath of the Elder Dragons. Along with being the only defense against the Elder Dragons from destroying the world since if the Commander and his/her allies fails here in the regions we will play in up to EoD then the entire world will be doomed. Speaking of which, it has always been strange how majority of the Elder Dragons, except Bubbles, awaken right in a location within the region we have played in since GW1 or atleast very near these locations. Though I always assume that is because the location we play in now was their final battle spot before falling asleep in the previous cycle. Primordus awakened in the Deep right under the GW1 Prophecy/GW2 Core game location. Zhaitan is Orr. Mordremoth is the Maguuma jungle Jormag is the Shiverpeaks Kralkatorrik is in the Blood Legion homeland.

> @"Sajuuk Khar.1509" said: > > @"HotDelirium.7984" said: > > I think once the "dragons" are dealt with the God will want to come back or actually come back and then maybe that creates other hosts of problems from demons/the mists/ and other world- remember Shattered Observatory? We could def face extradimensional creepers from the mists...or the worlds the Gods left to? > I don't think the human gods will want to come back. Even before the dragon business they were pulling away because the incident with Abbadon showed that direct interference was doing more harm then good, and when we went to confront Abbadon the gods were like "na, y'all can do it!". Kormir pretty much gave us this same answer during Balthazar's little rampage. If anything, I think that would just further prove to them that staying was bad. > I do think we may get involved with Gods again but not the ones we know about. The Human Gods that are worshipped we know about are only worshipped within the regions been in since GW1. However, that is only about 20% of the entire planet. There are probably other civilizations beyond and probably have Gods of their own. We may explore into these unknown regions and new civilizations once the Elder Dragon Storyline finally ends sometime either after EoD or after the living world after EoD since it will be unknown territory for everyone.

> @"radda.8920" said: > absolutely no one is talking about the massacre of the dwarves? > They come back with hardly a single line of dialogue > For a Guild Wars 1 player like me ,it's really hard to see, a shame.I imagined so much better for them with underground maps .. One of many thing rushed in Champions sadly. We should expect Champion story to be in this state since this single episode split into 4 parts is meant to be the one episode that leads into End of Dragons. It originally may have been long as all other epsiodes if released as a normal episode of Icebrood Saga. The current state of our own world may have also contributed to this state due to restrictions placed on businesses.

> @"Yasai.3549" said: > > @"EdwinLi.1284" said: > > Well the whole "I am a good guy" talk is not wrong. Jormag naturally believes she is doing the right thing by freezing the entire world to preserve and protect the world. > > That's the thing.... I wish they had put that across in a better way. > Jormag went from "hey, we friends, we talk now, we share info, we work together" to "I'm chit chat with Aurene, and er, thanks for the info guys ima go do my.... stuff now" > > Did Jormag JUST come up with this idea of turning the world into a fridge? > Why not just act on it in the first place? It's not like they needed an alliance to go around turning things into popsicles. > Doubt they needed to consult the Asuras on who or where to freeze over, Jormag could have just frozen over whatever they reached. > > It's just a whole jumbled mess, trying to bring some humanity to Jormag by wanting alliance, but then deciding to "lol nvm, everyone's a popsicle now" > I've mentioned it before : the entire Ice Brood Saga is just a convulated mess of trying to make a "deep intriguing storyline" but ended up just digging holes everywhere with no plan. > > I will not say no plot because this is a plot but it is rather rushed as there is obvious moments that will require probably a good 3 to 4 Story moments to explore these areas between the Story Missions. As for Jormag, the Benevolent Dictator personality of Jormag has been her personality for a long time as the Icebroods have presented her that way since the beginning of GW2 as a Elder Dragon that will always give those who serve her what they want in return they give her what she wants. Also Jormags needs to do is whisper and talk to these people into believing what she provides is what they want. While it was not presented properly due to how the Champion Episode is split into such small pieces and does appear rushed in certain areas, Jormag is all about appearing benevolent and having people willingly join her instead of forcing them to join her. They have not changed anything about Jormag's method of trying to corrupt people being to always attempt to have people willingly accept becoming her minion through promises of getting what they want and desire. With Aurene being young, Jormag thought she could persuade Aurene to join her though the idea of being a Benevolent Ruler and sharing that rule as equals while reminding Aurene that she is lacking life experience and Aurene should follow her suggestions because she is older and has more experience due to living long. At this point it is obvious Jormag has given up on trying since Aurene refuse to be persuaded by her words. It is not deep as it should be if it was running on a normal planned schedule but it does follow up on past knowledge about how Jormag handle things when it comes to attempting to corrupt beings and how she acts when she considers her attempt to corrupt people a failure. As draxynnic said, Jormag is that one person in a abusive relationship but in this case it is like a abusive adult, or should I say abusive Aunt, to someone they consider a child. They always act nice and give a certain attention to the child with making them feel comfort as long they get what they want from the child but if they don't get what they want despite the child behaving and done nothing wrong they get very violent. At this point we are past the giving the feeling of comfort and acting nice since Aurene refuse to give Jormag what she wants. Now it has become the violent stage of that abusive relationship thing of the family.