Alphonse Constant.2394

> @"zealex.9410" said:

> > @"reapex.8546" said:

> > See my previous post, there are severe limitations. It doesn't matter whether its real life or in game, harassment is wrong and should not be tolerated.

> > Its true you can't control other people actions in real life but this is a game. Games have rules, harassment is against the rules ArenaNet made. Therefore those rules have penalties. If ArenaNet was okay with harassment those penalties would not exist.

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> You you can, if someone is stalking you and or harrasing you you can always turn to the police and the stalker will risk facing severe punishment if they keep it up.

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> In gw2 nothing is done to such ppl.

Yeah, I actually had a long conversation with a GM and their supervisor GM about reporting harassment and what to expect from that.

They could give _no_ rule as to what constitutes as harassment, to when they would penalize a person for that, or how many penalties would happen before a forever ban.

Essentially, there are NO rules for harassment, no rules for a penalty or a ban, either.

(As for the police... let's not get started. They cannot do a thing about stalkers until they physically hurt you.)

> @"Naeleen.7601" said:

> all I can say is this: Are you _**really**_ here to chill and play a game to escape the problems of real life? Why do you even **_need_** to block other players?

Absolutely. I do want to have a great time in the game, this is why I block the people who make rape jokes, racial jokes, demean others and so on. And I block those who harass me. What you are apparently blissfully unaware of, is that harassers can be really mean and persistent. And support won't block and kick them from the game. I haven't reported too many, mind, but those I have reported are still playing the game. Those that my good friend has reported have not been banned either, as they never disappeared.

The abusive ex Lottie.5370 has mentioned above kept stalking them and emoting at them, thanks to the block list giving out all of their details.

Just a couple of days ago a person I was hiding from found me on the map and followed me around. (But at least he was a harmless one.)

> And a small tip: You can filter the chat channels as well, be in a party with your friends and create a new chat channel that only shows party (and perhaps guild) channels. No /whispers, no /say, no /map channel, no /emotes will be visible to you. Whoever seeks to annoy you, should only make you laugh at their time wasted on such ill-mannered efforts.

That's monumentally unhelpful. I mean my chat is already set up to be the most useful, like cutting out the emotes. But whispers are essential, since that is how my *friends* contact me. Anybody who persistently whispers and aims to annoy me goes on my block list. (That includes gold sellers/spammers.)

That has nothing to do with my original message, that blocking should hide your location and online status. I would be cool with even "just" that, but hiding your LFG in parties from your blocked list would also be awesome.

Anyway, hiding your status from people you have blocked should be a no-brainer. If you've gone to the trouble of blocking them, there's a 100% chance that you do not want them to know anything about you.

I really don't understand those who are that much against blocking making the blockee disappear completely from the blocked's list. I mean how would it hinder you? Why does the idea bother you so much? Please, do explain, I wish to understand.

> @"Blocki.4931" said:

> Think I haven't dealt with this myself? Hell, I have people who regularly command in open world who troll me like that all the time. As with anybody being annoying, you don't give them any attention and it eventually stops.

And wouldn't it be nicer if the game actually handled that for you, like in most other games?

Even social media and chats (Facebook and Skype and Discord) with all their leaks and such are handling it better.

Anyway, I'm not just talking about trolls. I'm talking about stalkers who are using this as a power-play. Most people use block as a last resort, when they are at the end of their rope, only to realize it doesn't hide them. It really takes a toll. I mean I don't enjoy playing a game where I'm harassed/trolled most of the time. It's really not entertaining for me.

>@melandru.3876 said:

>people nowaday are triggered and insulted by the tiniest thing. overprotective parenting is what i blame

We're not triggered or insulted, quite far from it: we just want to get away. We want to make sure that *that* person can't bother us. We are not trying to shout out to the void that XY is an annoying *beep*, we just want to become invisible to our blocked players. We just want them to leave us the hell alone.

> @"Mewcifer.5198" said:

> If I made a bad pun in map chat and got blocked by someone, it shouldn't then stop me from joining a squad they also happen to be in and going to a meta that they also happen to be attending.

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> Parties I am a little on the fence on, without party leaders being a thing it is hard to know whether you joined a party of 3 people in lfg or if its a party you made and put on lfg. Should someone be stopped from joining a group of 4 people just because 1 of them blocked them even if all they want is to complete the content the group is doing? And those other 3 people would have no idea that this 1 person is stopping their group from being filled. Would my bad pun example be enough reason for me to be locked out of certain lfg listings?

Yes, it is a good question. I have thought about that a lot. And I'm not sure either. I mean I have a few people I would absolutely not want to share any party with, but it's different for a meta where I don't actively have to play side-by-side with them. I can ignore their presence just fine.

I'm less certain about that in a raid, where you need to work together, communicate and you absolutely cannot mute or ignore them.

But as things stand, I'd already be happy if the blocking function worked like it works in other games, chat and social media. (You know, pretty much everywhere else but here, I mean what's the point? If I block someone, it's pretty self-explanatory that I do not want any sort of contact with that person.)

If they just make the blockee invisible and untrackable, it'll be so much harder for the blocked to find them - and join their group/squad in the first place.

> @"Blocki.4931" said:

> They can't enter your map instance unless they just so happen to get on the same one. They can't see you on the map, you can literally go anywhere else.

Wrong. Unless it is a new area recently released, or a world boss event, usually there is only one map instance. And you are wrong again. Yes, they can. Feel free to try it with a friend.

> If they go as far as to stalk you through squads you're in that's a childish thing to do and I highly doubt that happens more than once, maybe on accident.

Oh no, those people are definitely not childish. Maybe not bunny boilers, but they can be very angry with you.

> That being said, you don't have to be in those squads either if they follow you doing that you can simply leave and either do something else or run around with the squad outside it, since it won't be easy to track you down in a mess of 50 other people.

If you are almost finished with a fractal, but need more people, and that someone you want to avoid joins your LFG, and your party can't be bothered kicking them, or he acts all nice and friendly so they do not want to... yeeeah, you wouldn't throw out half an hour or an hour of your life, would you? You'd always leave right before getting the rewards you fought hard for? I mean where is the fun in that? Why play the game at all at that point?

> So again. Why would it bother you that somebody who can in no way communicate with you besides emoting do anything that harms you in any way?

Again, there are people who are so angry about you not wanting to interact with them, that they will follow you around. It's not fun when you have to ignore them any time you want to play.

> Absolutely nothing needs to be done about this, because it works just fine.

You mean "nobody did anything like this to me, this doesn't concern me, so it's not a problem"?

> Offline mode works too.

I can't talk with friends and guildmates this way. This would greatly limit my enjoyment of the game.

Why you are so adamant about this absolutely not being a concern?

> @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:

> Block doesn't block you from them, it blocks _them_ (communication) from _you_. Thus, it works as intended.

> Now, some players might wish for a different mechanic, but 'Block' does work as intended.

It doesn't. They can follow you around, block your toon from view, emote at you endlessly, as they did with Lottie.5370 .

This gives ample opportunity for harassment. Something *needs* to be done.

Well, in my previous thread I mentioned why I wanted to stay hidden (without names ofc), but it was removed, so I won't share any details this time.

In other games when you block someone, they cannot see any info about you, and I think that's the reasonable option. I just wish we could do the same here.

> @"Nokomis.5076" said:

> Pnly if you have them on your friend list as well. Try it with a friend. He should have you as friend, you blocked him. He shouldn't see the map you're currently in. If your friend does, file a bug ticket.

"Blocking another player does not prevent that player from seeing your online status or your map location, though the blocked player will receive a "network error" when they try to send a message to the blocker."

-from the Wiki

> > stand next to you and wave at you

> Uh... and? If he just waves, let him. If he spams skills to flash your screen, report him for harassing.

I just had a long chat with support about how harassment reports are evaluated and what happens after, so I would feel much safer if blocking worked properly.

As the title says, if you block players for whatever reason, they can:

* see your online status,

* see what area you are currently in,

* join your party if you are advertising in LFG

* stand next to you and wave at you

The *only* thing they cannot do is communicate with you.

I think it's completely reasonable to not wish to share any sort of information with people you have blocked. If you go invisible, it'd limit *your* options, you cannot whisper people, communicate with your guild, start LFG.

Not to mention this "glitch" is how enemy players can follow commanders in WvW.

> @"atheria.2837" said:

> They do all the time Gaile. I am sorry you are not aware of the many I have put in that aren't being answered.

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> My posts can't even be seen here - which you may or may not know, but I am pretty sure you do....

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> GMs aren't doing their jobs, so please stop telling people they are.

THIS.

I have contacted Support first in May, and it took them about... what 18 days to reply? To ask me for a screenshot - because I guess they can't check one's account and see. (This is a tactic we used at a certain telecommunication software's support when we didn't have a fix to a new issue yet, and needed one more day to figure it out.)

By the time I replied with the screenshot, my ticket had been closed, and it bounced back.

Since then I wrote 3 tickets. EACH ONE GOT CLOSED WITHOUT A SINGLE REPLY FROM SUPPORT.

So nah, nothing is ok at GW2 support.

Spent 2 hours tonight trying to get Old Stonehoof. Joined a squad trying to hunt it down. Jumped maps multiple times. Every. Last. Time. It was an ambush. (So I'm still missing it from my collection.)

Please tell me how this can be fun. Nobody was amused. :(

If it's a bug, I hope they fix it soon. If not a bug... I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people feeling rather put out, so perhaps they should rethink it.

> @Roxanne.6140 said:

> Zoom out. I get motion sickness with first person shooters too but I don't get sick when I zoom out on a mount.

I can't talk for everybody here, but I already play zoomed out to the max and have the camera tilted as far above ground as possible. Not to mention camera shake has been disabled from the start. So sadly that's not really helpful.

The problem, as Silmar Alech.4305 has explained, is more about the sluggish way the raptor responds to movement controlling, and the mount/dismount animation. Try taking too many turns with the raptor, and you'll feel sick - if you have strong motion sickness, that is.

I always play zoomed out to the max. It's the movement of the mount - doesn't move quite right, slower to turn, swerves when stopped - that causes the issues.

Anyway, I spent a day with a terrible migraine (yes, I took all the painkillers I could), so I don't think I will play the expansion until this issue has been solved. :(

I wrote to support about this a while back but forgot to post here, like they suggested. I'm happy the issue has been brought up, but sad that you people also feel sick. :(

I tried taking breaks often, tried closing my eyes, even tried not using mounts when not absolutely needed, but I'm still feeling terrible. I don't think I can do anything in the expansion, because today has been pure torture. I still can't stand up (or move) because of the headache and nausea.

I really hope they will come up with an anti-shaking option, because the expansion looks like fun and I'd like to play it.