Bamm.6975

> @"SoulSlavocracy.4902" said:

> > @"JusticeRetroHunter.7684" said:

> > NEEERRRDDD

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> > **spoken in echo chamber**

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> :'D

Hey man, any chance you can update the pvp link?I'd love to check out the build and the current link no longer works.

I definitely thought it was a big. I hope it is.

> @"Mosen.1426" said:

> I have tried this and Is has been very succesfull.

> http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PGgAgilZwwYXMNGJeUXbvbA-z5YXGRmAZWASPA

I can't tell if this one is a joke. It actually looks intersting but you took Masters Fort in Weaver which requires a sword and are using d/d. Might just have to try it myself though.

> @"juno.1840" said:

> I'd love to see the staff reworked to be more responsive. It's so sluggish that it's only viable in a zerg setting (talking wvw). All other pvp settings you can't even hit your foe because they move faster than the projectiles can track.

I don't agree with this at all. I love using staff in sPvP. It's currently my favorite weapon and I am having success blowing dudes up.

Before I found that fire ele Weaver build I was having fun with a tempest variation of this. It worked well for me with a bit more survivability and escape power than the core version.

The best thing you could do is find a class you really like and just play it. Every class is 100% capable of living world content. Personally, I love the ele. I have tried to get into other classes but always go back to it. There is no harm in trying other classes though.

Maybe the reason you're questioning it is that you want another profession more.

I will say that while absolutely capable there are easier classes if that's what you're looking for.

This is a fun idea. I was trying to think of something to say about Auburner and was coming up with Jack. Perhaps if people post a screen of their character that might help and people can make jokes about them? I don't have one of my dude at the moment but thought I'd share this idea cause I'd like to see other eles roasted!

I'll take hammer or great sword. I love the ele weapons and don't mind melee range builds. To each their own.

I am interested in doing some dungeons. I am a returned GW2 player and pretty familiar with the game. I main ele and will use this class for my runs. Regardless of the answers given I will try on my own. I am curious though if tempest and weaver have made the dungeon paths trivial? I would rather get a group for dungeons but in the event its short or I just need to go solo I am curious what to expect.

Is this still broken?

I think the only reason sword Weaver works as well as it does it due to water 2. This is a powerful low cool down on demand heal where as all other heal skills are behind two attunement swaps. Other weapons might become viable of there was a similar quality / available heal skills in skills 1 or 2 on them.

> @"Auburner.6945" said:

> Weaver has the worst CC of all DPS classes. DH, chrono, DD have higher burst, wonder why DH is taken into fractals too? Because weaver can't cleave, which holo is better at. All points are ousted by other classes on paper and in comps already.

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> I agree with you in terms of which playstyle fits you, I was never able to survive on a darn Guardian/Holo as I do on weaver because the way they're played isn't my taste.

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> For PvP or WvW, you need to put the Marshal and Celestial stats into consideration, with which others would be more cancer to take down if they wanted to go for sustain, but they already have enough sustain with Maurauder, etc.

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> The new benchmarks say it all, we deal less damage than a banner warrior, oh wow, a class that is used for benchmarks is already hitting harder than us with twice as much in HP, which pretty much speaks for itself in terms of DPS. As a support, we need a unique offensive buff, otherwise good luck topping a druid any day.

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> The class needs to be buffed to match this power creep which no one wants, or nerf other 'powerful' ones and prevent another inevitable power crept spec(s) into this meta.

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I think you hit on how I feel too. I perform best on ele because I like the play style but it stinks that I still under perform because theblinited out put of the class. That said I don't want to swap to a scrapper, firebrand, reaper, or anything else because I love the ele playstyle and keep trying to force it to work. Makes me not want to pvp which is also what I enjoy the most.

Ultimately, for me, this means I will play the game less.

Thanks for replying. I was actually talking about the consumables for things like karma and magic find. Is it best to take a booster before opening consumables like luck and karma envelopes?

I went back and tried my hand at the earth conditions build and I don't think it's for me. I perform much better with water, arcane, Weaver and menders. Just a personal preference I suppose. I am doing a bit better now that I finished placements but I still feel a bit underwhelming performance wise. I'll keep improving and give it more time for now.

Returning player here. I have a ton of boosters for various things in my bags and bank. Is there an optimal way to use them? You used to want to use karma boosters before consuming karma but I think that went away.

Just checking as I like to be efficient and I am not seeing any current info in my searches with clear enough answers.

Thanks!

> @"Stallic.2397" said:

> > @"Bamm.6975" said:

> > > @"Stallic.2397" said:

> > > > @"spectrito.8513" said:

> > > > I played exclusively Weaver s/d in the last 3 seasons mostly playing sage/earth rune(sometimes dolyak)

> > > > Water/arcane with primordial stance Twist of fate and lightning flash as utilities and switching to menders if facing a heavy condi team but only when i feel its really needed

> > > > Ended in plat 2 last season only solo queueing and made top 250 ?

> > > > It just takes time to get used to it

> > > > Memorizing cooldowns and skills and rotations

> > > > With sage ammy you can do some really good condi damage and most people do not expect it, but you'll need good reaction times to avoid bursts because you will be less sustainy than menders. You can take Stone ressonance instead of lightning flash for more stab and sustain, i personally really like it.

> > > > The problem with this build is that you cant really change much in it if you care to climb

> > > > Or you can try FA Weaver, but i cant help much here i only started playing recently im still learning it

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> > > > As for tempest and core....i dont really touched it after pof release

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> > > I'm playing a similar build but with harrier amulet. It got me to Platinum in this season. The healing is insane with signet of healing. You can bounce up to full health in no time. You'll have less health, but weaver is using barrier anyway. Using stone resonance, which gives you stab too, won't feel like you have less health than everyone else.

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> > > Without relying on vitality stat anymore, you have more opportunity to stat damage. With harrier amulet and barrier spamming, you're basically a bruiser build instead of a bunker build. Which is way more fun.

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> > > For everyone having a hard time finding a pvp build, I would try one of these suggested. It's unexpected so you'll have the element of surprise

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> > Would you mind sharing your build with the harrier amulet please? I'd love to see it and try it. I think I know what it is but just wanted to double check.

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> > Thanks mate.

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> Whoops! I meant to say Marshal! But here's the build http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQJAsdncMAt4i94CG5CM5iFNA7+PXoX0FtxeQOYIAsAOgA-jJRHQBwY/BAcCAEwDAAllBAA

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> The point of the build is to spam primordial stance as much as possible. Your dps will skyrocket while doing so since you're fully specced power and condition damage. Most Ele weapons are split between power and condi, so they're not fully viable unless you take both.

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> I never understood the hate for Earth trait-line. Diamond skin's health threshold is hard to maintain; but if you're using healing signet, with 1050 healing power, and spammable barrier, 75% becomes a walk in the park. Conditions against this build are an afterthought. The rest of Earth trait-line is specced damage. You can switch Earth for something else if you like, but the mix between defense and offense works pretty well.

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> The only counter is tremendous burst like core guard pre-patch, sic' em snipers, or Harolds. You'll have to play your defenses wisely (magnetic wave, obsidian flesh, swirling winds). That's also why Arcane has Final Shielding. Any other build is beatable. There's tons of cc, plus you're a heal-bot, with spammable barrier, who also specced damage.

Thanks for sharing this I am going to give this a try. I have been focusing on direct damage for sure.

I was doing better after my placement matches too.

> @"Stallic.2397" said:

> > @"spectrito.8513" said:

> > I played exclusively Weaver s/d in the last 3 seasons mostly playing sage/earth rune(sometimes dolyak)

> > Water/arcane with primordial stance Twist of fate and lightning flash as utilities and switching to menders if facing a heavy condi team but only when i feel its really needed

> > Ended in plat 2 last season only solo queueing and made top 250 ?

> > It just takes time to get used to it

> > Memorizing cooldowns and skills and rotations

> > With sage ammy you can do some really good condi damage and most people do not expect it, but you'll need good reaction times to avoid bursts because you will be less sustainy than menders. You can take Stone ressonance instead of lightning flash for more stab and sustain, i personally really like it.

> > The problem with this build is that you cant really change much in it if you care to climb

> > Or you can try FA Weaver, but i cant help much here i only started playing recently im still learning it

> >

> > As for tempest and core....i dont really touched it after pof release

>

> I'm playing a similar build but with harrier amulet. It got me to Platinum in this season. The healing is insane with signet of healing. You can bounce up to full health in no time. You'll have less health, but weaver is using barrier anyway. Using stone resonance, which gives you stab too, won't feel like you have less health than everyone else.

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> Without relying on vitality stat anymore, you have more opportunity to stat damage. With harrier amulet and barrier spamming, you're basically a bruiser build instead of a bunker build. Which is way more fun.

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> For everyone having a hard time finding a pvp build, I would try one of these suggested. It's unexpected so you'll have the element of surprise

Would you mind sharing your build with the harrier amulet please? I'd love to see it and try it. I think I know what it is but just wanted to double check.

Thanks mate.

Just wanted to add: that I played from launch until 2 years or so. I had the joy of playing core Elle back when daphoenix (sp?) Was the Cellofrag type dude helping other eles git gud.

Returning ele player here. I recently responded with something similar in another thread but wanted to make my own thread to try and help get the point across that I think ele needs a rework or some love if some kind.

I used to play GW2 a lot and leveled the following to 80: warrior, thief, ele, ranger. I also boosted my 40 something engineer but that doesn't really count. Point is I have played a lot and fell in love with ele. I love the utility of the profession.

I feel so underwhelming as ele now especially in pvp. I have tried tempest, Weaver, and core again. So underwhelming that onrecently have been trying other classes in pvp. With zero experience on other classes for many years I had so much more success in pvp than I did the the class I am the most comfortable with.

I wish I liked any of the other classes as much as ele but I don't so I keep trying to force it. The class I had the most success with out the hate was scrapper. Tanky, support capable, and does damage.

Again,just doing my part to bring attention to a profession I adore and want to see thrive again.

To this saying ele is ok in WvW I have a question. Are you referring to Zerg play or roaming or both?

I used to play GW2 a lot and leveled 5 classes to 80 got some legendaries and loved it. Ele is my favorite class for sure. I came back after a couple years away and I feel so underwhelming on ele accrpss the board but especially in pvp.

> @"Lonami.2987" said:

> Something that weaver really needs though, is a new mechanic skill, F5, letting you turn weaving on and off whenever you want for as long as you want, pretty much like [unravel](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unravel), which would be removed.

This is what I really want. I love my ele and I find the sword skills fun. I have been trying to make unravel work in PVP and just can't get it to click. It's not enough. The ability to turn the weave OFF is what I need even if that means losing the dual skills as the cost.

I like this idea. Another option would be to reduce the duration the mes has to activate the portal forcing them choose more quickly to use it or not.

I belieb in you Bieber!

I have been back a few weeks too and have been completing the HoT content. I found Tempest to work well for me solo.

> @"Chasind.3128" said:

> S/d is good but you have to do so much to get the desired result when a necro or mesmer just has to F1 or something and you're dead. Ele needs is the ability to strip boons or steal boons. They're built for 2012 not 2018. Anet tried to give them a condi spec but their boons are useless with spellbreaker, if they have boons they can be stolen, so now you have to do your 15 rotations just to get 3 to 4 boons back, oops now they're corrupted by a necro.

I can't argue with that. Ele has always had to had to "do a lot of work" to get good results with their builds in my experience.