The Fear.3865 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 > > And yes, I would rather have TWO interdependent classes than one class that kittens out all boons with 1 button. > And i'd rather have one slot class-locked than two. There's 3 class-locked actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 The issue isnt that chrono who barly can share any boons anymore or fb who can boonball to 5 ppl or alac who can perma alac and also mighy with 2 button presses. The real issue is other classes either has not much boon output or reliant boon output wich can be fixed without destroying previous but at same time if every class could do everything the classes would feel like copy pasta of the other. Chrono today feel clunky slow and if not for soi it would been trashed for something wich actually can provide boons beyond rellying on 2 skills to do so. This game has issue it nerfs meta but sometimes it ends up just making 1 spec or class useless to point it would be better to just delete spec. Herald is like this its max dps is 20k or so on golem. Or scrapper before they finally fixed it before gyro well and function f5 scrapper was weaker than core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katary.7096 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said: > Herald is like this its max dps is 20k or so on golem. It is not _that_ bad anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animism.7530 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > A guardian can't tank as well as a mesmer, what does that tell you? > That you're not very aware of what guardian is capable of. > > Many classes are capable of tanking, and some can do a better job at it than chrono. That was never the issue. > > Chrono was tanking not because it was the best tank, but because it was the best suited to it, and was losing the least, _out of the support options_ at the time (which were chrono, druid and banner warrior). And because losing additional slot to a dedicated tank was far less efficient than using one of the roles that already had to sacrifice the damage for other stuff, so weren't losing anything by replacing one of the stats with toughness. > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > A guardian can't tank as well as a mesmer, what does that tell you? > > That you're not very aware of what guardian is capable of. > > > > Many classes are capable of tanking, and some can do a better job at it than chrono. That was never the issue. > > > > Chrono was tanking not because it was the best tank, but because it was the best suited to it, and was losing the least, _out of the support options_ at the time (which were chrono, druid and banner warrior). And because losing additional slot to a dedicated tank was far less efficient than using one of the roles that already had to sacrifice the damage for other stuff, so weren't losing anything by replacing one of the stats with toughness. > > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitsu.6284 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Firebrand is a weak healing build. Also, Chronos can easily AFK and give out both alacrity and quickness if they so wish. What's so hard about renegade, chrono or firebrand is dealing adequate DPS while giving out those boons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animism.7530 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > A guardian can't tank as well as a mesmer, what does that tell you? > > > That you're not very aware of what guardian is capable of. > > > > > > Many classes are capable of tanking, and some can do a better job at it than chrono. That was never the issue. > > > > > > Chrono was tanking not because it was the best tank, but because it was the best suited to it, and was losing the least, _out of the support options_ at the time (which were chrono, druid and banner warrior). And because losing additional slot to a dedicated tank was far less efficient than using one of the roles that already had to sacrifice the damage for other stuff, so weren't losing anything by replacing one of the stats with toughness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animism.7530 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animism.7530 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. I mean barrier on scourge... really? Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. > > I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. > > I mean barrier on scourge... really? > Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... > Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. Sure dont mind guardian getting barrier and losing aegis not sure the guardians agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animism.7530 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > > > > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. > > > > I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. > > > > I mean barrier on scourge... really? > > Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... > > Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. > > Sure dont mind guardian getting barrier and losing aegis not sure the guardians agrees. Go for it. The functionality and usage of Aegis is pretty silly given that it is marred by circumstance. Trash mobs doing irrelevant attacks can render it utterly useless with at best, a constrained instantaneous, focused use that's able to (almost randomly) block some rather devastating attacks for multiple players surrounding. **Might as well be barrier**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagerus.8675 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I think the solution when it comes to group roles and things like this is to just build out all of the professions that are currently "meta" since it will always exist. FB and Alacren are favored because they strike a balance in making encounters more forgiving while still maintaining decent DPS as support. If you take a group of 5 or 10 highly skilled players with deep knowledge of different professions and challenged them to do an encounter with a different composition each time I think we'd see a ton of different clears using different strategies. That also takes a lot of time and effort and most pugs just want to clear the content and get it done with. I'm all for more professions getting getting ways to support allies, though! I'm excited to see what the new expansion brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > A tank is a support... Okay, let me rephrase. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a **boon** support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at **boon** support. Is that better understandable? > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... It's not about a dps difference between different classes on tank role. It's about how much dps a class loses by being placed in tank role compared to how it would do in its main role in non-tank slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. > > I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. > > I mean barrier on scourge... really? > Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... > Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. Chrono hardly tanks anything in todays meta, its most of the time druid or alac that tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitsu.6284 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 what the previous poster said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > > > > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. > > > > I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. > > > > I mean barrier on scourge... really? > > Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... > > Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. > > Sure dont mind guardian getting barrier and losing aegis not sure the guardians agrees. Guardian and FB dont need to loose blocks actually its just depends the barrier value.... IMO barrier should be removed from scourge, scourge imo should act as a debuffer and condition area control and do damage towards those roles. I always felt that FB could provide barrier on block and on burn cleansing and a trait for self barrier gain, similiar to what ventari has, but mantras active would increase the gain to arround 400-500 every 3 sec slightly stronger than barrier gain from ventari with is arround 380-400. A trait that converts X% of regen barrier, this would makehaveing rev or druid in same team of of the fb since they are the classes with high regen (rev passive regen is arround 1.1k sec X 10 allies, druis as an absurdregen spike value). Even guardian core virtues, the 3rd virtue pulse could be barrier rather the useless small heal, ence the trait from vitues could increase it and pulse to to allies. And nerf minstrell stats, remove toughness stats swaping to that value between precision and something else :P Yes Anet has BIG issues on class design... chrono and druid are no exceptions either... Barrier belongs to paladin and guardians alike Anet cant twist my mind.... :D its Anet that is wrong :P Anet is trying to reinvent the wheel but their wheel ends in a triangle or in a square! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 > @"Aeolus.3615" said: > IMO barrier should be removed from scourge, scourge imo should act as a debuffer and condition area control and do damage towards those roles. So, you want scourge to be completely useless in any kind of more demanding pve content. Duly noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 > @"Animism.7530" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Animism.7530" said: > > > > > > > > > Yes... this translates in reality to **being a better, more useful tank**. > > > > > > > > No more than a banner makes warrior a "better, more useful dps" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comparing two different things... but, banner warrior has been meta since the beginning and isn't a full DPS build. The class also has basically nothing else to make it particularly outstanding for anything PVE... > > > > > > It's exactly the same. The things you say make mesmer "a better, more useful tank" have nothing to do with how good mesmer is _as a tank_. They have a lot to do with how good it is _as a support_ however, as well as how bad at dps it is while being good at support. > > > > > > It's not that chrono is best as a tank. It's just that other classes are better used in non-tank roles. > > > > > > (just as an anecdote - personally i saw three other classes - guardian, necro and ele, being used in the tank role, and none of them did any worse job at it than chrono does) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A tank is a support... Mesmer is used as the main tank support. Banner warrior is a separate division of its own. What are you confusing yourself with here? > > > > > Besides which, DPS difference on a full tank build is generally always going to be a fairly negligible value... > > > > > > > > We got a firebrand tank in my static do fine on all places were you dont want chrono for other things like for example escort for portal and twins for alac/quickness on 1 class per side. > > > > > > I'm not saying other builds can't tank, I'm pointing out Chrono is by far the best tank for general use; which is totally bizarre as if Arenanet has had an identity crisis with their classes. > > > > > > I mean barrier on scourge... really? > > > Am I going insane, or is there a very close connection between barrier and one profession, but not one with scourge... > > > Barrier.... Guardian... These words may just have a shared meaning as if they should go together. > > > > Sure dont mind guardian getting barrier and losing aegis not sure the guardians agrees. > > Go for it. The functionality and usage of Aegis is pretty silly given that it is marred by circumstance. Trash mobs doing irrelevant attacks can render it utterly useless with at best, a constrained instantaneous, focused use that's able to (almost randomly) block some rather devastating attacks for multiple players surrounding. > > **Might as well be barrier**. So, how many trash mobs are stripping your aegis on raid boss fights or in fractal CM fights? You do realize that the main healing for guardian comes from aegis being stripped via the Pure of Heart trait right? (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pure_of_Heart ). It's literally the lifeblood of healing guard and makes up the main non big cooldown (aka Tome 2) regular healing the class has. Oh I know, those staff 2 and 4s looks nice, but if you'd bothered to check where the majority of healing actually comes from, you'd soon realize that those skills are your small cooldown burst heals. The majority of chip damage and regular healing comes from both aegis blocking attacks as well as healing players. If you remove Aegis, which by the way is central to the guardian profession and always has been, in favor of barrier, all you end up with is a watered down no heal giving barrier guardian. If you are spamming your aegis you are simply a bad healing guardian. Perfect example of player suggestions from players who have no clue how the class works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangoth.4503 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 > @"The Fear.3865" said: > Bs has the banner monopoly for like EVER. > > Lets change that, oh wait... yeah give spirit and banner to chrono plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny.1634 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I just want Rangers pets to be fixed and actually gain benefits from Quickness :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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