Marxx.5021 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Having a healbreaker only in one team is like playing a 5 vs 6. Why is such a mayor imbalance not fixed immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Warrior is a class which is favored by top players, therefor it is always shtronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 what a weird world where heal war is actually good lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma.1503 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It doesn't need one. All other support options except arguably tempest are underperforming after constant rounds of nerfs. Even tempest is underwhelming in the heals department. It's a utility/CC bot. If you nerfed Shocking Aura and/or rez glyph it would fall out of relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrorhuz.4695 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 > @"Marxx.5021" said: > Having a healbreaker only in one team is like playing a 5 vs 6. Why is such a mayor imbalance not fixed immediately? 'Cause it doesn't need one. All you need to do when someone is downed is target the healbraker, count to 2 and drop a daze. Spellbreaker needed a big nerf, it got one and now it stays in the dust where it belongs. No need to beat it any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 How about we stop beating the dead horses that can no longer do any harm and target the live stallions instead? Unlike many other tanky builds, Heal Warriors quickly die to 1vs2 and even in 1vs1 they don't often win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Marxx.5021" said: > > Having a healbreaker only in one team is like playing a 5 vs 6. Why is such a mayor imbalance not fixed immediately? > > 'Cause it doesn't need one. All you need to do when someone is downed is target the healbraker, count to 2 and drop a daze. Spellbreaker needed a big nerf, it got one and now it stays in the dust where it belongs. No need to beat it any further. It is not about elite banner which has a long cooldown anway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > How about we stop beating the dead horses that can no longer do any harm and target the live stallions instead? > > Unlike many other tanky builds, Heal Warriors quickly die to 1vs2 and even in 1vs1 they don't often win. It does not die quickly in a 1v2. Thats the point. Against condi it wont die at all. It is not about warrior either. It is the combination of full counter, condi remove and shout heals of that spell breaker build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 > @"Marxx.5021" said: > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > How about we stop beating the dead horses that can no longer do any harm and target the live stallions instead? > > > > Unlike many other tanky builds, Heal Warriors quickly die to 1vs2 and even in 1vs1 they don't often win. > > It does not die quickly in a 1v2. Thats the point. Against condi it wont die at all. It is not about warrior either. It is the combination of full counter, condi remove and shout heals of that spell breaker build. I recommend you play it and then you can climb the ladder because it's so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemghool.7613 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 do we cry over anything and everything now? no wonder pvp in this community wont ever take off and it only sinks in deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar.3568 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Why hotfix it, just bring other classes in a better spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I swear to god they better not touch Shoutbreaker in WvW because of sPvP complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 i swear 99% of the warriors who defend healbreaker dont even play it because truth is nobody wants to play this boring sleepy ass build. Any player stuck on HB on a team (like misha) will tell you this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagg.9236 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > I swear to god they better not touch Shoutbreaker in WvW because of sPvP complaints. WvW deserves nothing because it's a confused aberration which rejects any elements of team composition balance or stat restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"Quadox.7834" said: > i swear 99% of the warriors who defend healbreaker dont even play it because truth is nobody wants to play this boring sleepy kitten build I play shoutbreaker in both sPvP and WvW. It's actually a lot of fun. The warriors that don't like it are probably just not wanting the only meta build for warrior destroyed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widmo.3186 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Yes, shoutwarri so complex gameplay, such stronk, much wow. Honestly, i didnt expect the pvp meta after february patch to be so damn boring, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"Avatar.3568" said: > Why hotfix it, just bring other classes in a better spot You must be new here =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"lovemghool.7613" said: > do we cry over anything and everything now? No, this is about healbreaker in PvP. Having many warrior fan boys or no other viable warrior spec is no valid reason to not address it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"Swagg.9236" said: > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > I swear to god they better not touch Shoutbreaker in WvW because of sPvP complaints. > > WvW deserves nothing because it's a confused aberration which rejects any elements of team composition balance or stat restrictions. Rejects elements of team composition? What are you talking about? Zergs have specific things they want, much to the whining of rangers and thieves that want to zerg while offering nothing or next to nothing to justify their spot. Shoutbreaker is very strong in WvW and started there much earlier than it even thought of coming to sPvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 seems like people want warrior completely gone from meta... healwarrior is only way to play warrior right now.. while its indeed very good. it is still depend on the team to deal damage is it sooooo op? idk i dont think its the biggest problem the balance got right now.. if you guys dont have 3 bots in the team and you can actually forcus the spell breaker together and take it out quickly it shouldnt be a problem.. the real problem is .. that in every game you are likely to have 2-3 bots in your team.. and then calling a target means nothing because there are no actuall players to take on called target.. so everyone attack random player and the spell breaker keep healing them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancho.8750 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Ok what exactly is overperforming on warrior without exaggerating? Cause all I see is nerf war, again. Before it was 'It is carried by passives', they deleted the passives along with several traitlines, people started playing with active skills , ' berserker does too much damage, full counter kills me', no more damage, full counter doesn't do damage. Now support is too strong apparently, a build that has no stability and 2 stunbreaks that does no damage , and people are having terrible time with that. What the fuck do you want warrior to be a punching bag that does nothing and dies, is that it. Is that Mister 17 skills on the bar with the telegraphed attacks is beating your ass the problem, is that an ego thing, cause it is supposedly 'the easiest to play class' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeqkOneStylez.8047 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 You guys would be lost without metabattle. Or straight up copying lol. "Warrior is the weakest class in the game and has no builds" - February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"Vancho.8750" said: > Ok what exactly is overperforming on warrior without exaggerating? > Cause all I see is nerf war, again. Before it was 'It is carried by passives', they deleted the passives along with several traitlines, people started playing with active skills , ' berserker does too much damage, full counter kills me', no more damage, full counter doesn't do damage. Now support is too strong apparently, a build that has no stability and 2 stunbreaks that does no damage , and people are having terrible time with that. What the kitten do you want warrior to be a punching bag that does nothing and dies, is that it. Is that Mister 17 skills on the bar with the telegraphed attacks is beating your kitten the problem, is that an ego thing, cause it is supposedly 'the easiest to play class' ? agreed ... warrior is in such a sad spot right now... and you can legit only play it as support. apparently people dont want to see warrior in game. they prefer DD thief to rape them out of no where .. zz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret.1965 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Instant cast heals, cleanses and buffs are what's pushing warrior over the edge. Tempest also has access to heals, cleanses and buffs through namely overloads. But overloads require time and can be interrupted before their benefits are applied. Spellbreaker has no such drawbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 > @"Garret.1965" said: > Instant cast heals, cleanses and buffs are what's pushing warrior over the edge. Tempest also has access to heals, cleanses and buffs through namely overloads. But overloads require time and can be interrupted before their benefits are applied. Spellbreaker has no such drawbacks. Dealing next to no damage is no drawback? What would a drawback look like for you? Warrior doing negative damage and healing their opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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