Sarpan.9074 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I'm new to WvW and am not having success in pulling players off walls with Into the Void. How do you place Temporal Curtain so it's effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moradorin.6217 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 practice. It behaves the same way in wvw as it does in pve pretty much. Go try on some NPCs to get a feel for it. Distance matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanabal lecter.2495 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Remember it always pulls towards the curtain so try placing the curtain close to players for pull but on outside part of walls so it yoinks them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseison.4659 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) Right! I forgot about aegis! Which is kind of stupid if you think about it, how do you "block" a pull lol, but that's where we're at... :tongue: Oh, and Null Field can be blocked as well. Let's all figure out the logic of that situation lol, especially because it's the only boonstrip that can be blocked. But yeah, people complain about focus pull a lot like, "ooh i'm standing at the very edge of the keep and i got pulled into the blob by pesky mesmers" when in reality, if you have any kind of sense, focus pull isn't really that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseison.4659 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) > > Right! I forgot about aegis! > Which is kind of stupid if you think about it, how do you "block" a pull lol, but that's where we're at... :tongue: > > Oh, and Null Field can be blocked as well. Let's all figure out the logic of that situation lol, especially because it's the only boonstrip that can be blocked. > > But yeah, people complain about focus pull a lot like, "ooh i'm standing at the very edge of the keep and i got pulled into the blob by pesky mesmers" when in reality, if you have any kind of sense, focus pull isn't really that big of a deal. Especially when there's other professions that have a 1200 range pull lol! :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > > > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) > > > > Right! I forgot about aegis! > > Which is kind of stupid if you think about it, how do you "block" a pull lol, but that's where we're at... :tongue: > > > > Oh, and Null Field can be blocked as well. Let's all figure out the logic of that situation lol, especially because it's the only boonstrip that can be blocked. > > > > But yeah, people complain about focus pull a lot like, "ooh i'm standing at the very edge of the keep and i got pulled into the blob by pesky mesmers" when in reality, if you have any kind of sense, focus pull isn't really that big of a deal. > > Especially when there's other professions that have a 1200 range pull lol! :s Yeah... Anet really hates us Mesmers for some reason. :disappointed: And it's not just pulls, i don't know if Mesmer currently has anything specifically better than some other class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseison.4659 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > > > > > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) > > > > > > Right! I forgot about aegis! > > > Which is kind of stupid if you think about it, how do you "block" a pull lol, but that's where we're at... :tongue: > > > > > > Oh, and Null Field can be blocked as well. Let's all figure out the logic of that situation lol, especially because it's the only boonstrip that can be blocked. > > > > > > But yeah, people complain about focus pull a lot like, "ooh i'm standing at the very edge of the keep and i got pulled into the blob by pesky mesmers" when in reality, if you have any kind of sense, focus pull isn't really that big of a deal. > > > > Especially when there's other professions that have a 1200 range pull lol! :s > > Yeah... Anet really hates us Mesmers for some reason. :disappointed: > And it's not just pulls, i don't know if Mesmer currently has anything specifically better than some other class. Well let’s hope we get something unique in EoD. I’m still hoping for hexes, which would be a “Backwards Barrier” lol! xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > > > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > > > > > > > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) > > > > > > > > Right! I forgot about aegis! > > > > Which is kind of stupid if you think about it, how do you "block" a pull lol, but that's where we're at... :tongue: > > > > > > > > Oh, and Null Field can be blocked as well. Let's all figure out the logic of that situation lol, especially because it's the only boonstrip that can be blocked. > > > > > > > > But yeah, people complain about focus pull a lot like, "ooh i'm standing at the very edge of the keep and i got pulled into the blob by pesky mesmers" when in reality, if you have any kind of sense, focus pull isn't really that big of a deal. > > > > > > Especially when there's other professions that have a 1200 range pull lol! :s > > > > Yeah... Anet really hates us Mesmers for some reason. :disappointed: > > And it's not just pulls, i don't know if Mesmer currently has anything specifically better than some other class. > > Well let’s hope we get something unique in EoD. > > I’m still hoping for hexes, which would be a “Backwards Barrier” lol! xD I just want that whatever we get doesn't end up bugged like the rest of our skills lol. They really need to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarpan.9074 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"hanabal lecter.2495" said: > Remember it always pulls towards the curtain so try placing the curtain close to players for pull but on outside part of walls so it yoinks them off. Yep, that's what I've been trying. Good to know I'm in the ballpark. > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) Yeah, I've seen the "Blocked" message several times, so I guess I did it right and they just avoided it. I have successfully pulled one time and it was so satisfying :) I'll keep at it. I'll keep in mind the advice given here. Is anyone else really, really, REALLY tired of all the complaints about anet hating Mesmers? As a new WvW player I almost didn't even try because of all the negative posts. I understand the frustration, but either find a solution or switch to another profession. So, I tried and found some posts with helpful comments, worked out a build and playstyle I like and am having a good time in WvW. Yeah, I wish we were OP like Thieves, but you use what you got. Thanks again for the helpful replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"Sarpan.9074" said: > > @"hanabal lecter.2495" said: > > Remember it always pulls towards the curtain so try placing the curtain close to players for pull but on outside part of walls so it yoinks them off. > > Yep, that's what I've been trying. Good to know I'm in the ballpark. > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > > Also, if you're failing to pull somoene, that might be because they have Stability on or they dodged. The pull doesn't work 100% of the time, you might do everything right and still fail to pull. > > > > Just adding as well if they have aegis, it won't work either. :) > > Yeah, I've seen the "Blocked" message several times, so I guess I did it right and they just avoided it. I have successfully pulled one time and it was so satisfying :) I'll keep at it. > > I'll keep in mind the advice given here. > > Is anyone else really, really, REALLY tired of all the complaints about anet hating Mesmers? As a new WvW player I almost didn't even try because of all the negative posts. I understand the frustration, but either find a solution or switch to another profession. So, I tried and found some posts with helpful comments, worked out a build and playstyle I like and am having a good time in WvW. Yeah, I wish we were OP like Thieves, but you use what you got. > > Thanks again for the helpful replies. Cool! Keep at it! It can be very satisfying when pulled off right. Especially when you mix it with other pulls then Gravity well on the keep wall and just watch your squad bomb the poor sods who had the misfortune of being near the edge lol. :tongue: Also, yeah people are frustrated, but it's not up to us to fix it. All people can really do is complain and hope Anet fixes mesmers. And for a lot of people, switching a profession isn't so easy as you think. No one is asking for anything OP, just to fix the core problems with the mesmer and the unreliable skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 A super fun thing to do is to take multiple Mesmers and repeatedly pull a group of players in different directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"Hannelore.8153" said: > A super fun thing to do is to take multiple Mesmers and repeatedly pull a group of players in different directions. It's also kind of hilarious when it happens to you! :sweat_smile: It's like you're inside a pinball machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarpan.9074 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 > @"Veprovina.4876" said: > > @"Hannelore.8153" said: > > A super fun thing to do is to take multiple Mesmers and repeatedly pull a group of players in different directions. > > It's also kind of hilarious when it happens to you! :sweat_smile: > It's like you're inside a pinball machine. This gave me a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirrund.2654 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 What's funny is any time anyone gets pulled off a wall, they immediately blame mesmers in voice chat, when it probably wasn't a mesmer because A) The mesmer focus pull doesn't pull a set distance anymore and hasn't for some time, so its way way way less reliable and B) for every 1 mesmer in a squad of 50, there's 10 necros and 2-5 dragonhunters can that yank you from the stairs when you thought you'd pop over the wall for 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseison.4659 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 > @"Kirrund.2654" said: > What's funny is any time anyone gets pulled off a wall, they immediately blame mesmers in voice chat, when it probably wasn't a mesmer because A) The mesmer focus pull doesn't pull a set distance anymore and hasn't for some time, so its way way way less reliable and B) for every 1 mesmer in a squad of 50, there's 10 necros and 2-5 dragonhunters can that yank you from the stairs when you thought you'd pop over the wall for 2 seconds. And these ladies and gentlemen are the hard facts that fall off deaf ears. Such is the Guild Wars 2 community that loves to blame Mesmers for everything when that's besides the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 > @"Tseison.4659" said: > > @"Kirrund.2654" said: > > What's funny is any time anyone gets pulled off a wall, they immediately blame mesmers in voice chat, when it probably wasn't a mesmer because A) The mesmer focus pull doesn't pull a set distance anymore and hasn't for some time, so its way way way less reliable and B) for every 1 mesmer in a squad of 50, there's 10 necros and 2-5 dragonhunters can that yank you from the stairs when you thought you'd pop over the wall for 2 seconds. > > And these ladies and gentlemen are the hard facts that fall off deaf ears. Such is the Guild Wars 2 community that loves to blame Mesmers for everything when that's besides the case... And then Anet listens to the community in basically the only instance where Anet listens to anyone, and that is when the community cries about Mesmers so Anet, without any though whatsoever, just caves in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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