FXLEACH.9436 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm tired of bad players winning matches simply because they play scourge and spam condi cancer. What's the best profession and build to counter this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZerotheFang.5890 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 don't 1v1 them, use ranger or thief p/p and hit from a far, or out condi them as another necro with plague signet and trait that sends condi back to them, or be a warrior/spellbreaker with lot of resistance and stuns. idk just some ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malafaia.8903 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Playing as a druid main i can say scourges aren't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknicrofia.2604 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Deadeye/longbow ranger/pp teef counters it 1v1 from ranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXLEACH.9436 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 So pew pew it from afar whilst it sits on the point is the only option :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malafaia.8903 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 > @FXLEACH.9436 said: > So pew pew it from afar whilst it sits on the point is the only option :\ It's not the only option, it's the most viable, aka counters. That's what you asked for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Best counter to Scourge is Thief,.... because once you see one, you can run away faster and farther than any other Profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXLEACH.9436 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Don't want to get into semantics. I appreciate the info ppl have given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova.3817 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 > @FXLEACH.9436 said: > So pew pew it from afar whilst it sits on the point is the only option :\ as a avid necro player i will tell you that sitting on point and eating pew pews to the face we will not "sit" on point very long were not tanky like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FXLEACH.9436 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 That is interesting to note Nova, ty friend. Also guys I've got some great news - I've put together a little reaper build (power) and so far things have been pretty decent. Scourges can still burst me down with huge amounts of condi BUT I have been able to mitigate and then kill them, I've been successful and it feels viable. Pretty happy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 > @ZerotheFang.5890 said: > don't 1v1 them, use ranger or thief p/p and hit from a far, or out condi them as another necro with plague signet and trait that sends condi back to them, or be a warrior/spellbreaker with lot of resistance and stuns. idk just some ideas. Plague Signet trait no longer exist, and Warrior/Spellbreaker got nerfed. Pew Pew is the only way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard.2043 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 From personal experience as a scourge and mirage player, longbow ranger and DH longbow I was not able to beat as scourge and as a power or condi mirage, scourge were easy targets as long as I didn't go into melee range. Scourge vs scourge tends to be who can melt the other scourge first. I would say anything that can do good damage at range and stay at range is a good choice. Spellbreakers before the patch were good too although I haven't played scourge since the patch so I don't know if they are still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeskies.1536 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1. Don't run through puke trail. 2. Don't stand in Shades. 3. Intercept Scourge before Scourge gets to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alatar.7364 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 > @Mikeskies.1536 said: > 1. Don't run through puke trail. > 2. Don't stand in Shades. > 3. Intercept Scourge before Scourge gets to a point. 1. These are all over the Place 2. These are all over the Place 3. Equals standing in the thingies that are all over the Place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Pewpew Thief, power core nec or Tempest shout support. That's what I'm successful with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Anything ranged. Scepter ele is particularly good at it, but it still is a skill matchup. If you eat too many condis you'll still lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDecius.2609 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 With Vanilla Fresh Air ele my main spec, I find scourge is easier to deal with then reaper ever was, also druid. Just play a druid to hard counter scourge. I beat my friend of even skill level like 49 / 50 times using druid against his condi scourge. I'm sure power mirage can nuke the kittens hard as well, fresh air ele is truly strong in this meta, and I am sure the same logic applies with mesmer (Ranged nuke damage with heavy CC, this is how you give scourge an impossible fight to win. ) so 1. Druid recently buffed with avatar amulet https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Druid_-_Shoutbow 2. https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Elementalist_-_S/F_Fresh_Air 3. and probably this https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mirage_-_Power_Shatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 > @ProDecius.2609 said: > With Vanilla Fresh Air ele my main spec, I find scourge is easier to deal with then reaper ever was, also druid. Just play a druid to hard counter scourge. I beat my friend of even skill level like 49 / 50 times using druid against his condi scourge. I'm sure power mirage can nuke the fuckers hard as well, fresh air ele is truly strong in this meta, and I am sure the same logic applies with mesmer (Ranged nuke damage with heavy CC, this is how you give scourge an impossible fight to win. ) > so 1. Druid https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Druid_-_Shoutbow recently buffed with avatar amulet > 2. https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Elementalist_-_S/F_Fresh_Air > 3. and probably this https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mirage_-_Power_Shatter O crap that slipped past the kitten police! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidKami.2867 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Anything that does a lot of damage quickly. Ranged is the safest, but you can do melee too if you're quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDecius.2609 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 > @sephiroth.4217 said: > > @ProDecius.2609 said: > > With Vanilla Fresh Air ele my main spec, I find scourge is easier to deal with then reaper ever was, also druid. Just play a druid to hard counter scourge. I beat my friend of even skill level like 49 / 50 times using druid against his condi scourge. I'm sure power mirage can nuke the fuckers hard as well, fresh air ele is truly strong in this meta, and I am sure the same logic applies with mesmer (Ranged nuke damage with heavy CC, this is how you give scourge an impossible fight to win. ) > > so 1. Druid https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Druid_-_Shoutbow recently buffed with avatar amulet > > 2. https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Elementalist_-_S/F_Fresh_Air > > 3. and probably this https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mirage_-_Power_Shatter > > O crap that slipped past the kitten police! lmao that makes me kind of sad, I might edit it myself xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vincent III.1286 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Firebra> @FXLEACH.9436 said: > So pew pew it from afar whilst it sits on the point is the only option :\ Yup. If I'm on the point, you're not taking it and I'm not even the best player. Scourge has a lot of ways to put anyone in defensive mode. Deadeyes are easy to LoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 It's also worth noting that Dragonhunters can force a Scourge off point easily. Their F3 protects them quite well, since all Shade skills and Torch skills (the bulk of Scourge damage) are not unblockable. Ghastly Breach isn't either, FYI. It's a short window, but it may be all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 > @"Drarnor Kunoram.5180" said: > It's also worth noting that Dragonhunters can force a Scourge off point easily. Their F3 protects them quite well, since all Shade skills and Torch skills (the bulk of Scourge damage) are not unblockable. Ghastly Breach isn't either, FYI. It's a short window, but it may be all you need. Jump on point, drop all traps and hope the scourge dies before you run out of blocks... Ballzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalrat.5493 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 So far I've been sticking to crying on the forums for A. Net to nerf them. Two balance patches in and I don't think it's working... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musu.9205 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 > @ProDecius.2609 said: > With Vanilla Fresh Air ele my main spec, I find scourge is easier to deal with then reaper ever was, also druid. Just play a druid to hard counter scourge. I beat my friend of even skill level like 49 / 50 times using druid against his condi scourge. I'm sure power mirage can nuke the kittens hard as well, fresh air ele is truly strong in this meta, and I am sure the same logic applies with mesmer (Ranged nuke damage with heavy CC, this is how you give scourge an impossible fight to win. ) > so 1. Druid recently buffed with avatar amulet https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Druid_-_Shoutbow > 2. https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Elementalist_-_S/F_Fresh_Air > 3. and probably this https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mirage_-_Power_Shatter can confirmed i run power shatter mirage , and even with firebrand , i could kill scourge . the main problem is DD is a bit harder to deal with but manageable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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