Vulf.3098 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 > @Jthug.9506 said: > It would however probably be acceptable on Keep Construct... Still wouldn't be brought in meta groups because Weaver and DH completely obliterate Power Herald on that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninika.6819 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 > @Flauvious.6195 said: > > @Vulf.3098 said: > > Power Herald is about 8k-10k dps behind condi Renegade which would put it around 23k -24k dps with realistic buffs. For something that is mostly just bringing dps to the group this is really sub par and definitely not recommended for serious Raiding. > > > > Power Herald is good in Fractals up until most t4's. I wouldn't recommend it for 100cm. > > Pretty much any PvE content where things die in less than 15 seconds Power Herald is great at. > > When you say realistic buffs, do you mean with a chrono providing perma quickness? Because I feel like one thing setting power rev back is that it's only strengths is a high personal quickness uptime, which is made entirely irrelevant if someone else is already providing the whole group with quickness. > > Most of the pugs running in regular fractal play don't have that though, so how does rev compare in a group without meta buffs I run Herald in dungeons and fractals and in non meta comps I am 90% of the time top dps in my group if not second highest. I usually get beat out dps wise by Daredevils and DHs (only if their rotation is on point and usually just during their burst then I am back to top dps) Occasionally weaver/tempest will out dps me if their rotation is on point as well. I even out dps Renegades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 > @Aninika.6819 said: > > @Flauvious.6195 said: > > > @Vulf.3098 said: > > > Power Herald is about 8k-10k dps behind condi Renegade which would put it around 23k -24k dps with realistic buffs. For something that is mostly just bringing dps to the group this is really sub par and definitely not recommended for serious Raiding. > > > > > > Power Herald is good in Fractals up until most t4's. I wouldn't recommend it for 100cm. > > > Pretty much any PvE content where things die in less than 15 seconds Power Herald is great at. > > > > When you say realistic buffs, do you mean with a chrono providing perma quickness? Because I feel like one thing setting power rev back is that it's only strengths is a high personal quickness uptime, which is made entirely irrelevant if someone else is already providing the whole group with quickness. > > > > Most of the pugs running in regular fractal play don't have that though, so how does rev compare in a group without meta buffs > > I run Herald in dungeons and fractals and in non meta comps I am 90% of the time top dps in my group if not second highest. I usually get beat out dps wise by Daredevils and DHs (only if their rotation is on point and usually just during their burst then I am back to top dps) Occasionally weaver/tempest will out dps me if their rotation is on point as well. I even out dps Renegades. Those must be some crap renegades you are running into ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aninika.6819 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 > @nosleepdemon.1368 said: > > @Aninika.6819 said: > > > @Flauvious.6195 said: > > > > @Vulf.3098 said: > > > > Power Herald is about 8k-10k dps behind condi Renegade which would put it around 23k -24k dps with realistic buffs. For something that is mostly just bringing dps to the group this is really sub par and definitely not recommended for serious Raiding. > > > > > > > > Power Herald is good in Fractals up until most t4's. I wouldn't recommend it for 100cm. > > > > Pretty much any PvE content where things die in less than 15 seconds Power Herald is great at. > > > > > > When you say realistic buffs, do you mean with a chrono providing perma quickness? Because I feel like one thing setting power rev back is that it's only strengths is a high personal quickness uptime, which is made entirely irrelevant if someone else is already providing the whole group with quickness. > > > > > > Most of the pugs running in regular fractal play don't have that though, so how does rev compare in a group without meta buffs > > > > I run Herald in dungeons and fractals and in non meta comps I am 90% of the time top dps in my group if not second highest. I usually get beat out dps wise by Daredevils and DHs (only if their rotation is on point and usually just during their burst then I am back to top dps) Occasionally weaver/tempest will out dps me if their rotation is on point as well. I even out dps Renegades. > > Those must be some crap renegades you are running into ;) No, they are in non meta comps running meta builds that provide minimal buffs and no survivability. Renegade rotation is so easy you could do it in your sleep. Non-meta comps are really where Herald shines because it has nice buffs and survivability without any dps loss. I will admit that most Renegades I have run with have come very close to my damage, but this is a NON META COMP. Clearly, I would be outshined in meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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