zoopop.5630 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Against a few high gold/Low Plat players on the other team........... score ended up being 125-500. How is this even close to balance match making within the same league lol? Just remove leagues and tier IN general and base the system of Rating alone only because this shit aint working out at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Quaggan would guess, they had two bronze players in team, and average MMR of both teams were close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 no it wasn't close we had 1 player that was consider top 200 and myself at low plat.... as for the other 3 no idea what rating they were in but im sure they weren't above me. You know it's sad when the number 2 player on the leaderboard msg you saying "sorry for the match up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaogin.2679 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 That's strange, cause that would mean Anet is still creating teams of 5 from the queue and then finding another team of 5 for them to face. I was under the impression that they were going to find 10 players in the queue within acceptable range of eachother and balance them out between 2 teams. Anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaogin.2679 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 > @Morwath.9817 said: > Quaggan would guess, they had two bronze players in team, and average MMR of both teams were close. > The population in queue would have to be abysmally low for 3 top 15 players to be teamed up with 2 bronze players. That would be a completely ridiculous way to balance out the teams in that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar.9216 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I have no way of knowing if this is true. Based on another post Anet answered I think the way they make teams is this: Pick 10 players , make teams that are close in MMR avg. Send out match is ready to everyone of those 10 players At this point teams are made. However if 1 player decline the match ready request another random player in the player pool get subed in on the team with the declined spot. So how to cheat this system if you have high mmr? Have 1 or 2 bot account with absolute shit mmr que at the same time as you. So when the system pulls 10 players and make the teams you will be on the team with the bot that have shit mmr. Now the bot then decline match ready and get replaced by a random player . Chances are any random player will have a much higher mmr than the bot which means you end up on a way better team than the system wanted you to have in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huehuehueh.5106 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooglese.4860 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Not new, been matched with and against top level players since I started PvP in 2013. Things like this happen when there are too few players online at a given time in an MMR bracket. Hell, I remember queueing with some friends late one night and facing a 5-man of various pros, and one of the guys on our team hadn't passed PvP level 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronometria.3708 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 The spvp population must be pretty thin at the moment. I have been playing low gold and see the same names every other game and sometimes in consecutive games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithilwen.1529 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I thought better of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaogin.2679 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 > @Hooglese.4860 said: > Not new, been matched with and against top level players since I started PvP in 2013. Things like this happen when there are too few players online at a given time in an MMR bracket. Hell, I remember queueing with some friends late one night and facing a 5-man of various pros, and one of the guys on our team hadn't passed PvP level 20. What OP describes isn't a population issue though. That would simply be a complete failure to create two balanced teams. Even with low population, the matchmaker should evenly distribute players between the two teams based on their rating. The only reason I can see for this not working is if the matchmaker is making a team of 5 and then searching for another team of 5 and then starting the match. > @Mogar.9216 said: > However if 1 player decline the match ready request another random player in the player pool get subed in on the team with the declined spot. Anet identified this as an issue in the past and supposedly fixed this so that it no longer happens that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Match making is terrible.... I've been against Vallun/Naru duo queue while I was bottom of gold and they were top 20. I've watched someone with 700 AP, brand new to the game have to vs Naru on his Scourge. Match making is a joke but I thought people already established this by season 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Matchmaking is as terrible as every season. In one match I only lost 4 MMR besides almost instant queue times. How can matches be that unbalanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 ill post a screen shot give me a sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378561777698340864/383828869435752453/gw050.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 hope links works or not feel free to figure out how exactly the balance is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? ** it's up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huehuehueh.5106 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 > @zoopop.5630 said: > > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > > Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? > > ** it's up Yeah that was me on my alt #34 Poc Primal #2 Liderisimo #13 and a random vs zohr shadelang and three randoms I did not feel like that was a fair matchup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpretor.3091 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Yesterday I played on a teamwith Zorh (~ rank 20), Liderismo (~ rank 15), Ambi (rank 5) and myself (rank 10) vs no one I recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > > @zoopop.5630 said: > > > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > > > Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? > > > > ** it's up > > Yeah that was me on my alt #34 > Poc > Primal #2 > Liderisimo #13 > and a random > > vs > > zohr > shadelang > and three randoms > > I did not feel like that was a fair matchup match making did not do me any good after that , played against a few more top 20 players. I'm clearly not at that level of play yet lol and I love the challenge and all but i lost a fairly good amount rating that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philelectric.3769 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? I was in thats game. If its the game I'm thinking,it was on Battle of Kyhlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 > @Philelectric.3769 said: > > @huehuehueh.5106 said: > > Do you have a screenshot of the players n the game? > > I was in thats game. If its the game I'm thinking,it was on Battle of Kyhlo That is correct ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.9387 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP_Matchmaking_Algorithm For those who are curious, anet puts matchmaking pseudo code here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDudisx.5914 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Any matchmaking will be bad if the player base is too small. Best way for it to improve is severely increase the player pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 > @xDudisx.5914 said: > Any matchmaking will be bad if the player base is too small. Best way for it to improve is severely increase the player pool. But match quality is so infamously bad. To the point even a lot of the well invested GW2's pros and vets are leaving in droves. When the game mode is just simply not fun, not competitive at all, and most of all no longer even supported by the devs, or upper management? How do you increase the player pool in this case? The answer is you really can't until the devs start to make strives, towards getting the ball rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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