Chaith.8256 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms: __Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.__ Use Grenades, use Tool Kit Use Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy, Key Traits: Explosives: - Grenadier - Shrapnel Firearms: - Sanguine Array Process: - Spam Grenades - Spam Box of Nails - Observe perma 25 might stacks Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loboling.5293 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yes, this looks pretty interesting. When paired with the all-mighty blunderbuss, should make for a strong build... haha But seriously, it does look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Its a big buff to Firearms itself, I think its great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkystuff.1563 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 just tested it with elixir gun 1 skill and you can stack till 11 stacks of might with auto hit. pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netheren.3261 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I use a simple sw/sh holo build with firearms/alchemy/holo, and the extra 5% crit and 12% ferocity from these changes is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 My Hoelbrak set just got upgraded, yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolguy.8702 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms: __Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.__ > > Use Grenades, use Tool Kit > Use Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy, > > Key Traits: > Explosives: > - Grenadier > - Shrapnel > > Firearms: > - Sanguine Array > > Process: > - Spam Grenades > - Spam Box of Nails > - Observe perma 25 might stacks > > Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet. Wont be good enough to be in that great tier you dreamed of. And i think you forgot boon corrupts and removals exist so those might stacks will just end up being perma weakness instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunateric.3708 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 It's a great trait for condi engi, I like it a ton. Hoping more discussing here will bring more positive changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > @"Chaith.8256" said: > > New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms: __Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.__ > > > > Use Grenades, use Tool Kit > > Use Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy, > > > > Key Traits: > > Explosives: > > - Grenadier > > - Shrapnel > > > > Firearms: > > - Sanguine Array > > > > Process: > > - Spam Grenades > > - Spam Box of Nails > > - Observe perma 25 might stacks > > > > Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet. > > Wont be good enough to be in that great tier you dreamed of. > And i think you forgot boon corrupts and removals exist so those might stacks will just end up being perma weakness instead If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUST.7241 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So many things to test! * No Scope fury buff of +150 Ferocity + Sanguine Array -- Replacing Explosives Build?! * +10% damage when having Vigor (Invigorating Speed + Excessive Energy) -- essentially a Tool build buff * ...if we can finally fight Condis easier...?! Got me hype... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolguy.8702 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > > If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL And then it gets corrupted/removed again ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunateric.3708 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > @"Chaith.8256" said: > > > > > > If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL > > And then it gets corrupted/removed again > ????? At the very least you keep the engi sub entertaining, Coolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 This build is legitimate guys, http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUST.7241 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > This build is legitimate guys, > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA > > Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up. Whoa, a build for Core players! Have any gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"LUST.7241" said: > > @"Chaith.8256" said: > > This build is legitimate guys, > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA > > > > Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up. > > Whoa, a build for Core players! > Have any gameplay? > A couple hours of unranked, streamed tonight. Twitch.tv/chaithh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egorum.9506 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I played against this tonight a few times on scourge, it has serious potential. Great aoe, great damage. It doesn't have as much burst as holo though, and misses out on stability. Still very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantreil.3092 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Tested the changes of **No Scope**, but with my kitless Elixir build, the fury output is nuts, 880 points of ferocity in seekers stats, 1220 in Berserker stats!, (using along the explosives trait **Big Boomer**), **No Scope** offically became a viable trait, outvalueing **Skilled Marksmen** by a mile. I'm still gonna stick with **High Caliber** though, my build already provides tons of might via elixirs, the 5% increase will be great for compensate the loss of the sigil of accuracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 EDIT: No Scope is bugged, this trait is bugged and giving 3 might for 9s on proc in addition to fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant.7206 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > This trait is bugged and overperforming in first few seconds. > > Details: > > There's a hidden 2nd mechanic to this trait, giving you 4 might for 10s with a matching 10s ICD, this activates when you hit with an ability that applies bleed. > > > > Shhh, don't let the devs know. We'll see it nerfed to oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintes.6943 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > This trait is bugged and overperforming in first few seconds. > > Details: > > There's a hidden 2nd mechanic to this trait, giving you 4 might for 10s with a matching 10s ICD, this activates when you hit with an ability that applies bleed. > > > > I cant replicate this with fragmentation shot or elixir gun auto. Have you tried them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Edit: No Scope is giving unintentional perma 3 might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Okay, I'm just even more beyond confused now. Forget everything I said about this trait being bugged. I'm getting 3 stacks of might for 10s from Grenading/casting Blunderbuss but I have literally no might generation abilities equipped, not courage sigil or anything.. IT'S "NO SCOPE" this trait is unintentionally giving 3 might for 10s or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantreil.3092 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"Chaith.8256" said: > Okay, I'm just even more beyond confused now. Forget everything I said about this trait being bugged. > > I'm getting 3 stacks of might for 10s from Grenading/casting Blunderbuss but I have literally no might generation abilities equipped, not courage sigil or anything.. > > IT'S "NO SCOPE" this trait is unintentionally giving 3 might for 10s or so. ...Wut? that trait is only meant to give fury, no might whatsoever... they got things mixed isnt? Ill dequip my sigil of courage and see if you are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nix.3152 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 they nerfed no scope trait already. even if it was bugged it was fine. now core engi back to shit tier dmg again. unless you would run full elixir build which gonna instadie in pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"Nix.3152" said: > they already nerfed no scope trait lol. Yep. Good, no worries there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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