LordOtto.2650 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So we are now there, that the Statue boss, the Eye is bugged, and we couldn't kill it, it frozen at 0% and didn't do anything, and we wanted to do the 5 min ach! You ow me that achievement now and +2 hours! Strike one Anet! River of souls, people are so exploiting this, that most of them can't do it right, without the stealth! Strike two! I entered a cleared Dhuum map, for free, got the chest for free, and nothing in it for the legendary collection! Is it a bug, or is it a cooperation with raid guilds for making profit both sides, so more people would buy gems, I don't know, I just don't want to believe this, and I say it is a bug! If it isn't a bug, then you will learn from your mistake! And don't forget people, these guild raiders asked 100-120 gold for that last mini chest after Dhuum kill, just for the chest to get that leg collection! And now nobody can get it from the little chest?! How odd, isn't it?! Please say it is a bug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"LordOtto.2650" said: > I entered a cleared Dhuum map, for free, got the chest for free, and nothing in it for the legendary collection! Is it a bug, or is it a cooperation with raid guilds for making profit both sides, so more people would buy gems, I don't know, I just don't want to believe this, and I say it is a bug! If it isn't a bug, then you will learn from your mistake! > > And don't forget people, these guild raiders asked 100-120 gold for that last mini chest after Dhuum kill, just for the chest to get that leg collection! > And now nobody can get it from the little chest?! How odd, isn't it?! > Please say it is a bug! Pretty much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susy.7529 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"LordOtto.2650" said: > So we are now there, that the Statue boss, the Eye is bugged, and we couldn't kill it, it frozen at 0% and didn't do anything, and we wanted to do the 5 min ach! You ow me that achievement now and +2 hours! Strike one Anet! > River of souls, people are so exploiting this, that most of them can't do it right, without the stealth! Strike two! > I entered a cleared Dhuum map, for free, got the chest for free, and nothing in it for the legendary collection! Is it a bug, or is it a cooperation with raid guilds for making profit both sides, so more people would buy gems, I don't know, I just don't want to believe this, and I say it is a bug! If it isn't a bug, then you will learn from your mistake! > > And don't forget people, these guild raiders asked 100-120 gold for that last mini chest after Dhuum kill, just for the chest to get that leg collection! > And now nobody can get it from the little chest?! How odd, isn't it?! > Please say it is a bug! actually strike that not worth to get an infraction. Bans do get permanent eventually is all I'm going to say. No one is forcing any one to buy raid kills or try to circumvent the intended way of acquiring collection items. If you are walking that path, do so at your own peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"LordOtto.2650" said: > So we are now there, that the Statue boss, the Eye is bugged, and we couldn't kill it, it frozen at 0% and didn't do anything, and we wanted to do the 5 min ach! You ow me that achievement now and +2 hours! Strike one Anet! lol the way we (PUG) did this was entire group went to soul eater first, did the mechanic and burst it down to 12% hp after that everyone except chrono tank stay with soul eater and kite around. 9 of us went to eye, 4 on each side and 1 light thrower. after we kill eye, timer starts, two guys went and kill soul eater with the chrono, it takes few seconds only. after soul eater die, everyone /gg and rush to broken king. when we were at broken king, everyone was in serious mode, very little talk just concentrate on getting it done.. it was really fun. no one die at broken king. :) everyone knows the timing to stop attack to control/manage green spawn. we were all screaming out loud at the end after a dead silence. it is very funny how people talk a lot .. call out things.. but at the end phase.. always a dead silence......and end with a scream.. LOL weldone arena net :) one of best raid content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter.2315 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Susy.7529" said: > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. What the hell is wrong with people today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 bug yes, there are a few bugs here and there. but no big deal.. we just repeat it until we get it. leave instance and re-enter but yes.. please fix the bug. i have few 5% dhuum wipe due to bomb bugs .. we even have everyone spam special action key starting from 12% spam spam spam spam.. and some dude still take bomb up the sky with him what what what what???? i was so sure that was my dhuum chair loot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. > > What the hell is wrong with people today.. Then they have to try harder, because buying a run works atm. The only thing which doesn't work is joining an already cleared instance, so they are in fact locking the collection item behind a gold sink (buying a run). Imo they should've left mini-chests with collection items lootable even if you didn't partecipate in the kill but maybe they're working with raid sellers....it's a lobby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raguel.9402 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. > > > > What the hell is wrong with people today.. > > Then they have to try harder, because buying a run works atm. The only thing which doesn't work is joining an already cleared instance, so they are in fact locking the collection item behind a gold sink (buying a run). Imo they should've left mini-chests with collection items lootable even if you didn't partecipate in the kill but maybe they're working with raid sellers....it's a lobby... Killing the boss works* is what you wanted to say. Whether you pay or work for it, is entirely up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. Then they would've placed the drop in the boss chest, not in the chest after the boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susy.7529 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Raguel.9402" said: > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > > > > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. > > > > > > What the hell is wrong with people today.. > > > > Then they have to try harder, because buying a run works atm. The only thing which doesn't work is joining an already cleared instance, so they are in fact locking the collection item behind a gold sink (buying a run). Imo they should've left mini-chests with collection items lootable even if you didn't partecipate in the kill but maybe they're working with raid sellers....it's a lobby... > > Killing the boss works* is what you wanted to say. > > Whether you pay or work for it, is entirely up to you. I want the leg ring and I never set foot in a raid, so it's not a choice because it's obvious that I'll pay for it, by the time I would have learned to raid, I'd have already farmed much more than the price to buy it, with much less effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris McSwag.4683 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. > Then they would've placed the drop in the boss chest, not in the chest after the boss. > > or, you know... in an area only available after defeating the boss? Prior to patch yesterday the chests wouldnt even spawn if you reopened a cleared instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > @"LordOtto.2650" said: > > So we are now there, that the Statue boss, the Eye is bugged, and we couldn't kill it, it frozen at 0% and didn't do anything, and we wanted to do the 5 min ach! You ow me that achievement now and +2 hours! Strike one Anet! > > lol > the way we (PUG) did this was entire group went to soul eater first, did the mechanic and burst it down to 12% hp after that everyone except chrono tank stay with soul eater and kite around. 9 of us went to eye, 4 on each side and 1 light thrower. after we kill eye, timer starts, two guys went and kill soul eater with the chrono, it takes few seconds only. after soul eater die, everyone /gg and rush to broken king. when we were at broken king, everyone was in serious mode, very little talk just concentrate on getting it done.. it was really fun. no one die at broken king. :) everyone knows the timing to stop attack to control/manage green spawn. we were all screaming out loud at the end after a dead silence. it is very funny how people talk a lot .. call out things.. but at the end phase.. always a dead silence......and end with a scream.. LOL > weldone arena net :) one of best raid content Uh, that is a nice idea. Definitely going to use this myself. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulter.2315 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Coulter.2315" said: > > > @"Susy.7529" said: > > > They should've left chests lootable for anyone, not the big chest but only the small one who gives the collection item, being forced to pay tons of gold for a Dhuum kill, in order to just loot that chest once, is a cheap shot anet... > > > > I think they want you to kill Dhuum.. Not buy a run.. > Then they would've placed the drop in the boss chest, not in the chest after the boss. > > Or place it in a chest which is only accessible after the boss and only gives the item if you've killed the boss. Oh wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzjudz.9142 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 So what you're saying is that you haven't killed a boss and you want to get an item that's only awarded to you after you kill that boss? Do you also think you get for example Xera's Goblet for the legendary armor collection without killing Xera? Why should the raid connected legendary ring be different than the raid connected legendary armor? Of course you need to actually kill the boss. Whether you pay someone else to kill the boss or you kill it yourself is up to you and irrelevant to how the item is obtained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzjudz.9142 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 You literally said the following: "I entered a cleared Dhuum map, for free, got the chest for free, and nothing in it for the legendary collection! Is it a bug, or is it a cooperation with raid guilds for making profit both sides, so more people would buy gems, I don't know, I just don't want to believe this, and I say it is a bug! If it isn't a bug, then you will learn from your mistake!" You are using the false dichotomy fallacy. You are saying it's either a bug, or it's cooperation with raid sell guilds. How about it's neither and it's simply intended that you need to kill the boss? Just like you need to kill Xera to get the White Mantle Goblet, or how you need to kill Gorseval to get the spirit thread, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo.6140 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, its odd and inconsistent that 2 chests dont require the corresponding event/boss kills, but one does, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis.5169 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 No one is forcing any of you guys to pay guilds for kills. You could just kill him your self with your guild. Or make a pt and try to pug it. Or goto the forums and reddit and make a static. So pointing out you paid 120g is irrelevant it only speaks to your lack of skill and motivation to do it yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech > Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury. Freedom of speech doesn't cover being a kitten on the forums. It protects you from an oppressive government which tries to mute criticism but I love people who keep pulling this card not actually knowing what freedom of speech is about. These are arenanets forums, they get to decide how far they let slander and nonsense go. I already said earlier, bans do become permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin.6921 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Anyone keeping track of threads like this...It will make for a hilarious end of the year mahsup. I cannot know if that guild scammed you or not but are you literally saying that if you cannot get a legendary reward without finishing the actual content then it must be a bug cause otherwise its a guild/dev conspiracy to increase gem sales? I mean....WHAT???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I'd give this one about a 3/10 as far as good conspiracy theories go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Mist.2973 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So let me get this straight. You wanted a reward for doing nothing and are now complaining because you got nothing in return? What do you think entitles you to legendary items in the first place? I don't understand this kind of attitude at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Byron Miller.4629 Posted December 14, 2017 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted December 14, 2017 It was never intended that you could complete the collection without having killed Dhuum. When we fixed the bug preventing players from accessing the chest, we also fixed the bug that allowed players without a Dhuum Kill to receive the collection item from said chest. My apologies for failing to include the update in the patch notes, that one is on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennie.6750 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"Byron Miller.4629" said: > It was never intended that you could complete the collection without having killed Dhuum. When we fixed the bug preventing players from accessing the chest, we also fixed the bug that allowed players without a Dhuum Kill to receive the collection item from said chest. My apologies for failing to include the update in the patch notes, that one is on me. Unintended isn't necessarily bad. I mostly play WvW, I don't have time for raids, but I'd use the stats swaps far more often than any raid player. The rewards structure is completely messed up, fixing that was only aggravating. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Dos Cavalos.6132 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Time for everyone to go and buy a Dhuum kill kakakakakaka, should be around 1k gold not much not much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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