Blackdagger.9670 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 there are some people only commited to one profession, and they try to improve as much as possible. We know that. But, the fact that mesmers are everywhere after high tiers of plat. makes really hard to play as a rev. Obvious reasons of Anet's mesmer supremacy and weak defense of rev against mesmer are the biggest issues on this. I mean you get 2-3 mesmers in enemy team per game this season, and how this guy was able to made his way to the top? I've been in games with him, with and against. Saw him playing, but it's not enough to explain winning games against condi spam builds such as; thief,mesmer and scourge. It's a pain for me to play rev on this damn condi meta. And I have to say, If you didn't wintrade or cheat sir, I salute you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Yeah, I've seen him playing, but not this season... kinda suspicious. I know there is another great rev in Top10 and he surely made it up there legally, I'd rather salute to him. Rev is not in the worst spot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orisci.6527 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Ew mesmers! Our poor Revs need help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Edit: EU doesn’t count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 He's not rev only. Or did you mean in NA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRaPhReNiA.8763 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 omfg he didnt cheat! unlike 99% of this random community, he is actually a good player... im happy he is rank 2 and not some random mesmer, who doesnt deserve it anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick.2987 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The people still playing are just worse and even mesmer can not close that gap to the small percentage of decent ppl still playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwaihir.1745 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 People playing boosted mesmers cant compete with skilled play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abazigal.3679 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 You seem to forget something : the meta at top level is much more different than on lower level. You will rarely face the current plague setup ( 2 mesmers 2 scourges firebrand )on plat 3 level because 5 people from teams know how to handle these builds and are going to counter. On average level ( gold 3), you mostly face that setup with crappy ones, and it takes one mistake or one player to lose the match.. It's much easier for a good rev to play and win with and against good players, than for an average( even good) rev to play and win with and against average players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouloulou.9053 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I didn't cheat or wintrade, tbh rev was rly good this season because it's only bad against condi mes and condi thief and every mes was chrono cancer instead of condi cancer and rev was one of the only class able to 2v1 them kinda easily imo and most condi thieves just insta steal into my dodge spam all the time LUL. I was around 1800-1820 rating for the whole season and then I just got a really lucky win streak at the end hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"Pouloulou.9053" said: > I didn't cheat or wintrade, tbh rev was rly good this season because it's only bad against condi mes and condi thief and every mes was chrono cancer instead of condi cancer and rev was one of the only class able to 2v1 them kinda easily imo and most condi thieves just insta steal into my dodge spam all the time LUL. I was around 1800-1820 rating for the whole season and then I just got a really lucky win streak at the end hehe Yeah rev was actually really good this season against power builds. I saw you in a few matches and you did really well. Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdagger.9670 Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"Abazigal.3679" said: > You seem to forget something : the meta at top level is much more different than on lower level. > You will rarely face the current plague setup ( 2 mesmers 2 scourges firebrand )on plat 3 level because 5 people from teams know how to handle these builds and are going to counter. > On average level ( gold 3), you mostly face that setup with crappy ones, and it takes one mistake or one player to lose the match.. > > It's much easier for a good rev to play and win with and against good players, than for an average( even good) rev to play and win with and against average players. Well, not really. I also ended up in top 100 in this season and been in many games with good players. I can say that its so rare to find a match without a mesmer. And most of the games I lost were against double mesmers. Of course, it could be related to personal mistakes or such but still no one can deny the supremacy of mesmer at this moment. For ex-main revenant player myself, I was so angry cuz I was forced to play something else due to current meta. I was enjoying playing rev, but not anymore. Still seeing a guy who only plays rev on this meta and be successful in leaderboards is the reason I've opened this thread. I think he deserves first spot lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Imo vebryan deserved the spot but at least it ain’t a mesmer main but one of us revs. Too bad didn’t deny boosted mesmer monkey the r1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"JayAction.9056" said: > Edit: EU doesn’t count. The truth is quite the opposite. But alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"Pouloulou.9053" said: > I didn't cheat or wintrade, tbh rev was rly good this season because it's only bad against condi mes and condi thief and every mes was chrono cancer instead of condi cancer and rev was one of the only class able to 2v1 them kinda easily imo and most condi thieves just insta steal into my dodge spam all the time LUL. I was around 1800-1820 rating for the whole season and then I just got a really lucky win streak at the end hehe Then congratulations to you, sir! :) Well done! Staying true to your class no matter the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouloulou.9053 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"BeLZedaR.4790" said: > Imo vebryan deserved the spot but at least it ain’t a mesmer main but one of us revs. Too bad didn’t deny boosted mesmer monkey the r1 though. I agree, vebryan is better than me, I guess I just got a bit more lucky with matchmaking. I hope he's gonna get top 1, 2, or 3 next season because he really deserves it in my opinion and I don't think he got it in previous seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"Pouloulou.9053" said: > I didn't cheat or wintrade, tbh rev was rly good this season because it's only bad against condi mes and condi thief and every mes was chrono cancer instead of condi cancer and rev was one of the only class able to 2v1 them kinda easily imo and most condi thieves just insta steal into my dodge spam all the time LUL. I was around 1800-1820 rating for the whole season and then I just got a really lucky win streak at the end hehe This is inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveen.7239 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I stopped trying in sPvP when I came to know the top 100 starts at plat 2 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duiz.6042 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1k73 on EU. imho, as core guard, rev was very strong this season, much more than last one. Double rev in same team was real pain for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealBribri.4068 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 yeah yeah didnt cheated and had just huge luck , maybe ppl need screens :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trise.2865 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Went to hell and back; made deals with ancient spirits, both good and evil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash.3974 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 > @"TheRealBribri.4068" said: > yeah yeah didnt cheated and had just huge luck , maybe ppl need screens :) Deliver them already, if you don’t have proof don’t accuse someone as wintrader. Funny that this comes from you, a well known wintrader who is perms dishonored omegalul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 tfw people accuse you of cheating if they see you as a rev with a plat badge because rev sucks so if you have over a certain elo you must be hacking. I've stated before in the rev forums: Rev is underpowered, but not half as bad as a lot of the lesser skilled members of the community think it is. The problem is that the skill floor of Revenant happens to be higher than the skill ceiling of some of the other specs, so you really can't play rev effectively unless you have some decent knowledge of the meta. People keep suggesting insane buffs for Revenant like "Weapon skills cost no energy" without understanding that this would let the class spam a lot of our utility skills on recharge. The class needs buffs, just not _that_. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megametzler.5729 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 It does need tweaks to be able to handle condi spam somehow - on the other hand, maybe that should be (power) revs downside. The problem ist just, other classes hardly have these downsides (yes, I am looking at you, condi mesmer!). For me with my ele, rev was always really painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Rev has alot of tools at its disposal and can have a good burst. If someone knows how to use the class perfectly and knows what todo in any given sitchuation it doesn't matter what class you play youll be placed well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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