Is it a dream to ONE-SHOT whole zerg ???

[CRrabbit.1284]

As we all know, soulbeast has the highest status and highest damage modifier in the game, thus it gives us the highest burst in the game too. The one-shot build become more and more popular, however, it is mostly used in roaming VS single player.

Yes we DO have the power, but we DON'T have the right weapon.

And, there is a weapon called dragon banner........(although not so easy to get but it's quite popular , in T1 server you will see dragon banners every day)

Dragon banner do 2x damage than Maul, so your 20k maul will become 40k, and it's VS 20 ppl.

Well you can't do it alone this time, but with a thief's help (stealth + venom) you are able to take down opponent's whole zerg in just ONE-SINGLE-SHOT.

 

What do you think?

[Dragonzhunter.8506]

> @"CRrabbit.1284" said:

> As we all know, soulbeast has the highest status and highest damage modifier in the game, thus it gives us the highest burst in the game too. The one-shot build become more and more popular, however, it is mostly used in roaming VS single player.

> Yes we DO have the power, but we DON'T have the right weapon.

> And, there is a weapon called dragon banner........(although not so easy to get but it's quite popular , in T1 server you will see dragon banners every day)

> Dragon banner do 2x damage than Maul, so your 20k maul will become 40k, and it's VS 20 ppl.

> Well you can't do it alone this time, but with a thief's help (stealth + venom) you are able to take down opponent's whole zerg in just ONE-SINGLE-SHOT.

>

> What do you think?

 

Are you joking? Where or on what servers did you see that this One -Shot build is more and more popular?

I play every day in WvW and in the last 3 month I met only 2 or 3 One-Shot Soulbeast, and they died in 2 sec. One Shot Soulbeast build can't kill a good roamer, only weak players can be killed by them.

maybe we have the highest status and highest damage modifier, but the lack of survivability with this build, make us be somewhere on no.5 in top 5 of One-Shot classes.

[CRrabbit.1284]

> @"Dragonzhunter.8506" said:

> > @"CRrabbit.1284" said:

> > As we all know, soulbeast has the highest status and highest damage modifier in the game, thus it gives us the highest burst in the game too. The one-shot build become more and more popular, however, it is mostly used in roaming VS single player.

> > Yes we DO have the power, but we DON'T have the right weapon.

> > And, there is a weapon called dragon banner........(although not so easy to get but it's quite popular , in T1 server you will see dragon banners every day)

> > Dragon banner do 2x damage than Maul, so your 20k maul will become 40k, and it's VS 20 ppl.

> > Well you can't do it alone this time, but with a thief's help (stealth + venom) you are able to take down opponent's whole zerg in just ONE-SINGLE-SHOT.

> >

> > What do you think?

>

> Are you joking? Where or on what servers did you see that this One -Shot build is more and more popular?

> I play every day in WvW and in the last 3 month I met only 2 or 3 One-Shot Soulbeast, and they died in 2 sec. One Shot Soulbeast build can't kill a good roamer, only weak players can be killed by them.

> maybe we have the highest status and highest damage modifier, but the lack of survivability with this build, make us be somewhere on no.5 in top 5 of One-Shot classes.

 

> @"Dragonzhunter.8506" said:

> > @"CRrabbit.1284" said:

> > As we all know, soulbeast has the highest status and highest damage modifier in the game, thus it gives us the highest burst in the game too. The one-shot build become more and more popular, however, it is mostly used in roaming VS single player.

> > Yes we DO have the power, but we DON'T have the right weapon.

> > And, there is a weapon called dragon banner........(although not so easy to get but it's quite popular , in T1 server you will see dragon banners every day)

> > Dragon banner do 2x damage than Maul, so your 20k maul will become 40k, and it's VS 20 ppl.

> > Well you can't do it alone this time, but with a thief's help (stealth + venom) you are able to take down opponent's whole zerg in just ONE-SINGLE-SHOT.

> >

> > What do you think?

>

> Are you joking? Where or on what servers did you see that this One -Shot build is more and more popular?

> I play every day in WvW and in the last 3 month I met only 2 or 3 One-Shot Soulbeast, and they died in 2 sec. One Shot Soulbeast build can't kill a good roamer, only weak players can be killed by them.

> maybe we have the highest status and highest damage modifier, but the lack of survivability with this build, make us be somewhere on no.5 in top 5 of One-Shot classes.

 

A "good" roamer survive the One-shot soubeast is either they have more HP/toughness than the initial burst of the SB or they noticed the SB before he stealth (since SB can only accumulate 5-6 sec stealth max) so get fully prepared.

All these doesn't apply to Dragon Banner SB with a thief. They will do 2x damage now and come from no where (since thief can help to accumulate 10+ sec stealth easily). You have no preparation and zero reaction time. Maybe a few warriors can survive it, but what they can do?

[UmbraNoctis.1907]

Dragon Banner hits for less than Maul, and some dmg modifier only apply to one target or not at all, so it won't be enough dmg for oneshots against most players. Aside from this zergs usually have more than 20 players and it is very unlikely to catch everyone within the narrow aoe. So even if you would manage to down some, they will be ressed and you will be cc'ed/killed by the surviving players, before you can actually finish anyone (downstate prevents true "one hit kills").

 

(SB can stack quite a lot of stealth if build for it btw, so stealth is not the limiting factor)

[Eramonster.2718]

Would be funny if the Soulbeast holding the dragon banner is the first to die, for being glass in a zerg :lol:.

 

Seen good, bad and terrible roamers out there. It's more important to know the class than relying on a build.

 

Zerg fight is different compared to roaming/duel. Killing 1-2 is enough to win in roaming/duel. But it takes more than that to collapse a zerg. What works in roaming, might not for zerg fights. Boons eg. Protection and such.

[Dadnir.5038]

And then there is this existential question that pop up: "Is it really OK to flirt with the profession's nerf bat for the sake of a WvW bundle?"

[Prophet.1584]

one word: retaliation.

[DuckDuckBOOM.4097]

> @"CRrabbit.1284" said:

> As we all know, soulbeast has the highest status and highest damage modifier in the game, thus it gives us the highest burst in the game too. The one-shot build become more and more popular, however, it is mostly used in roaming VS single player.

> Yes we DO have the power, but we DON'T have the right weapon.

> And, there is a weapon called dragon banner........(although not so easy to get but it's quite popular , in T1 server you will see dragon banners every day)

> Dragon banner do 2x damage than Maul, so your 20k maul will become 40k, and it's VS 20 ppl.

> Well you can't do it alone this time, but with a thief's help (stealth + venom) you are able to take down opponent's whole zerg in just ONE-SINGLE-SHOT.

>

> What do you think?

Won't work.

 

Remoresless, sic'em, and MoC are all single target buffs.

You can easily test sic'em/opening strike Maul in PvP vs 5 golems and get 1x ~8k crit and 4x ~5k crits from a single Maul.

MoC is a bit harder to test there but basically, interrupt the necro NPC with GS5, jump off the ledge and quickly Maul the golems before MoC runs out: 1x 10k crit + 4x 5k crits.

 

Then go watch youtube videos of the dragon banner. You don't have access to your F1-F5 skills. So it's not like you could even sic'em a single target because you cant even merge when you have the banner.

 

I'm not sure if traits even work with the dragon banner but if they do, Spellbreaker with boon removal on CC is so much better than ranger for this.

 

I've been saying rangers need a rework to all these damage mods for a while. These single target mods hold ranger back in large fights like WvW. Every other modifier I can think of on other classes works on all targets they hit.