mortrialus.3062 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. Anet... The last thing in the world that needed to happen to Boonbeast was give them access to DOUBLE protection and protection against condition damage to boot. Also the portal nerf was criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Aza.2105" said: > The changes look pretty good, thanks Anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger dave.5201 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude.2950 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand All the bandwagon will be moving to SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger dave.5201 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"dude.2950" said: > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > All the bandwagon will be moving to SB. All classes got damage reduced, So you give a class that's almost unkillable even more defence....WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude.2950 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Maybe statistics shows SB is one of the least played class ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger dave.5201 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? It will be 9 seconds with the trait, So 33% uptime on top of the Perma-33% to power and condi damage given by protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > > > I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? > > It will be 9 seconds with the trait, So 33% uptime on top of the Perma-33% to power and condi damage given by protection Sigh, soulbeast is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger dave.5201 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > > > > > I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? > > > > It will be 9 seconds with the trait, So 33% uptime on top of the Perma-33% to power and condi damage given by protection > > Sigh, soulbeast is stupid Yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFoooster.8192 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 anet make that signet of inspiration changes pve only ! applying that to pvp lessens build diversity in support builds ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Za Shaloc.3908 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 As a Soulbeast player, the Dolyak Stance boggles my mind. Like what? The skill didn't need a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elxdark.9702 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 **"Additionally, soulbeasts are currently overperforming in competitive game modes, so we're lowering the power of some of the skills used in their builds. We also took this opportunity to enhance a few of their weaker stances."** _Looks at Dolyak Stance_ _Uninstalls the game_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Pterikdactyl.7630" said: > As a Soulbeast player, the Dolyak Stance boggles my mind. Like what? The skill didn't need a buff. SPvP Mode Soulbeast Player vs. Player Mode now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteepledHat.1345 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand But jaunt, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoknocks.4935 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I liked the removed elixir s passive on engi, now bad holos won't be hard carried by that as before at least, even tho the rest remained the same so... Full counter damage nerf was unnecessary, how many times it got nerfed already? Next patch they will finally remove completely the damage. SpB was balanced in my opinion. Soulbeast nerfs, but the new Dolyak stance it's stronger than before... maybe the longer cooldowns will open a more wide window for counterplay. Condi mirages nerfs, but if you see the notes actually power mirage was hit, and nothing about condis was even touched, apart that axes little insignificant changes. Portal will probably be replaced maybe and i doubt condi mirage won't be meta anymore. Scrapper buffs seems weird, they removed the stab on demand from gyro usage trait, they buffed the dps, but holo is still superior as dps, so who knows, maybe someone will come out with an interesting build. Core guard seems received buffs to hammer, so it will be even more easy and brainless to play, but at least it's not too cancer. The other profession changes dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"whoknocks.4935" said: > I liked the removed elixir s passive on engi, now bad holos won't be hard carried by that as before at least, even tho the rest remained the same so... > > Full counter damage nerf was unnecessary, how many times it got nerfed already? > Next patch they will finally remove completely the damage. > SpB was balanced in my opinion. > > Soulbeast nerfs, but the new Dolyak stance it's stronger than before... maybe the longer cooldowns will open a more wide window for counterplay. > > Condi mirages nerfs, but if you see the notes actually power mirage was hit, and nothing about condis was even touched, apart that axes little insignificant changes. > Portal will probably be replaced maybe and i doubt condi mirage won't be meta anymore. > > Scrapper buffs seems weird, they removed the stab on demand from gyro usage trait, they buffed the dps, but holo is still superior as dps, so who knows, maybe someone will come out with an interesting build. > > Core guard seems received buffs to hammer, so it will be even more easy and brainless to play, but at least it's not too cancer. > > The other profession changes dunno. Core guard hammer changes were 100% a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Cspace Cowboy.5903 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Thoughts on update from an Ele main... Yep, still not logging in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokriphos.7042 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Reaper was nerfed terribly. Spectral trait removal destroyed what meager sustain the class had and will decimate the class even further in platinum ranked, where it's already considered "carried" when you manage to win. Loss of a stun break, lowered duration in spectral skills and loss of life force generation, loss of damage in 50% or more shroud, and now we have to trait it to get it back, for 10 seconds. Terrible Focus 4 wasn't touched, foot in the grave wasn't touched, subpar utilities were not reworked, and now this will make reaper an even better target for focus fire at the start of a match. Bonus: buffs to fear traits, which are useless in a spvp landscape full of stability. I am not sure the dev's play core necromancer or reaper at all after seeing this balance. All in all, a big reaper nerf with a minor scourge buff from reworking the nerfed trait during the rune balance, and adding a trait that increases heals. Clearly Anet wants you to play condi mirage , boonbeast, spellbreaker, or druid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Imperadordf.2687" said: > +5 nice buffs to scrapper wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Apokriphos.7042" said: > Reaper was nerfed terribly. > > Spectral trait removal destroyed what meager sustain the class had and will decimate the class even further in platinum ranked, where it's already considered "carried" when you manage to win. > > Loss of a stun break, lowered duration in spectral skills and loss of life force generation, loss of damage in 50% or more shroud, and now we have to trait it to get it back, for 10 seconds. Terrible Focus 4 wasn't touched, foot in the grave wasn't touched, subpar utilities were not reworked, and now this will make reaper an even better target for focus fire at the start of a match. Bonus: buffs to fear traits, which are useless in a spvp landscape full of stability. I am not sure the dev's play core necromancer or reaper at all after seeing this balance. > > All in all, a big reaper nerf with a minor scourge buff from reworking the nerfed trait during the rune balance, and adding a trait that increases heals. > > Clearly Anet wants you to play condi mirage , boonbeast, spellbreaker, or druid. Portal nerf was the single biggest nerf to any one build's efficacy this patch, specifically condition mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > > > > > I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? > > > > It will be 9 seconds with the trait, So 33% uptime on top of the Perma-33% to power and condi damage given by protection > > Sigh, soulbeast is stupid So is S/D shortbow Thief. It's over performing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I don't know about other classes, as warrior main, I think the FC nerf was a lil bit too much, I think 33 to 50% would be ok. Now I feel I'll take longer to win duels and prolly get plus'd before I take someone down. I don't know if ppl are over reacting on their classes, but everybuild seemed to have been nerfed harder than warrior, aside from SoulBeast maybe. I also play mesmer and ele. Oh well, the current weaver build was untouched, and I'll wait to see what happens to Tempest. With other classes having less sustain and for what it seems overall less dmg too, maybe weaver gets in a better spot. Mesmer portal nerf prolly won't do shiet outside the plat range, as well as the axe nerf. The jaunt nerf is meaningful in every tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza.2105 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Khalisto.5780" said: > I don't know about other classes, as warrior main, I think the FC nerf was a lil bit too much, I think 33 to 50% would be ok. Its a good change. Warrior did a lot of damage while being durable and have lots of sustain and disengage. That is a bit too much. PoF specs created a mess that maybe they will finally clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elxdark.9702 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 > @"Vieux P.1238" said: > > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > > @"mrauls.6519" said: > > > > > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > > > > > Dolyak Stance: This skill no longer applies retaliation. Instead, it now reduces incoming condition damage and physical damage by 33% for the duration of the stance in addition to its other effects. > > > > > > > > > > Lol... Perma prot, perma -33% dmg from condis due to a trait and now another -33% power and condi dmg reduction with a 33% uptime.... I don't understand > > > > > > > > I'm confused - won't it only work for 6 seconds? So not perma? > > > > > > It will be 9 seconds with the trait, So 33% uptime on top of the Perma-33% to power and condi damage given by protection > > > > Sigh, soulbeast is stupid > > So is S/D shortbow Thief. It's over performing as well. no lol, the only possible way someone may think S/D thief is over perfoming is either trolling or being bad at mesmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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