Me Games Ma.8426 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Title. 4.6s as max from SoDomination. They stack as sum from the base duration. Paralyzation Sigil: 3s*1.3=3,9s Confounding Suggestions: 3s*1.25=3,75s Both: 3s*(1+0.3+0.25) = 4,65s <-- exactly what the screenshot shows. ![](https://i.imgur.com/wJory0s.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Games Ma.8426 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. Actually yes and no. I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > Actually yes and no. > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Games Ma.8426 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Daze really seems to stack 1.33 x 1.5 as we got a 1.9s daze out of mantra of distraction (anet always round down) ![](https://i.imgur.com/KKNQ1IX.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTCpanders.2871 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > > > Actually yes and no. > > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. > > In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). Where are you seeing this? My tooltip doesn't show they stack it only says 1.5 daze with CS + RoM. Did you mean the cooldown shown on the UI hotkeys in testing? Can you post a screenshot of your tooltip showing 2s daze with RoM + CS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > > > > > Actually yes and no. > > > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > > > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > > > > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > > > > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. > > > > In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). > > Where are you seeing this? My tooltip doesn't show they stack it only says 1.5 daze with CS + RoM. Did you mean the cooldown shown on the UI hotkeys in testing? Can you post a screenshot of your tooltip showing 2s daze with RoM + CS? See Me Games's post above yours for a screenshot, my friend and I did a similar experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTCpanders.2871 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > > > > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > > > > > > > Actually yes and no. > > > > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > > > > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > > > > > > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > > > > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > > > > > > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. > > > > > > In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). > > > > Where are you seeing this? My tooltip doesn't show they stack it only says 1.5 daze with CS + RoM. Did you mean the cooldown shown on the UI hotkeys in testing? Can you post a screenshot of your tooltip showing 2s daze with RoM + CS? > > See Me Games's post above yours for a screenshot, my friend and I did a similar experiment. Thanks yeah I saw that. I was just asking how you're seeing it in your tooltips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Handler.4816 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > > > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > > > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > > > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > > > > > > > > > Actually yes and no. > > > > > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > > > > > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > > > > > > > > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > > > > > > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > > > > > > > > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. > > > > > > > > In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). > > > > > > Where are you seeing this? My tooltip doesn't show they stack it only says 1.5 daze with CS + RoM. Did you mean the cooldown shown on the UI hotkeys in testing? Can you post a screenshot of your tooltip showing 2s daze with RoM + CS? > > > > See Me Games's post above yours for a screenshot, my friend and I did a similar experiment. > > Thanks yeah I saw that. I was just asking how you're seeing it in your tooltips. I didn't. I reported what my friend saw in theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTCpanders.2871 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > > @"LTCpanders.2871" said: > > > > > @"Daniel Handler.4816" said: > > > > > > @"Me Games Ma.8426" said: > > > > > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > > > > > Nice! This is very helpful as I remembered sigils didn't stack with traits in the past. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this work on runes of mesmer in terms of daze duration? Because then it'll turn any 1s daze from mesmer to 1.83s daze which is quite significant with distration, mantra, pistol, staff 5 etc. I'm currently having a blast with [this build](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWncfC1ohlpBupBEgilTjiMAWggycHGiboear2uF-jphUABseCAAY/BSLDs8hAA7HAQvHBAA "this build"), slowing enemy on demand with the new Lost Time (which makes interrupt much easier) and stacking 5 condis on interrupt. I didn't know daze stacks and was just using the runes for damage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually yes and no. > > > > > > I tried it using Rune of the Mesmer but i coudn't understand the results. > > > > > > I would have expected the daze to last 1.83s but iirc it was longer so dazes could probably stack 1.33* 1.5 *Daze I'm at my parents house this weekend so I can only look into the screenshots on monday. > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting build choice btw! I have actually been running something VERY similar in WvW for a few days. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAreWnknBFphlpB2oBEgilTjqear2ulMAWggyMH2mbA-jViUABMrESBlPs/AAAY/BeV/x3TBwK6DyWJYvHBAA-w > > > > > > > > > > > > I prefer the Lesser Chaos Storm for additional Interrupts and the new anti CC trait is very strong imo. > > > > > > > > > > In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2). > > > > > > > > Where are you seeing this? My tooltip doesn't show they stack it only says 1.5 daze with CS + RoM. Did you mean the cooldown shown on the UI hotkeys in testing? Can you post a screenshot of your tooltip showing 2s daze with RoM + CS? > > > > > > See Me Games's post above yours for a screenshot, my friend and I did a similar experiment. > > > > Thanks yeah I saw that. I was just asking how you're seeing it in your tooltips. > > I didn't. I reported what my friend saw in theirs. For sake of clarity, I think maybe you're mixing up tooltips with icon timers. This is what you said: "...In testing with my friend, we observed RoM + CS stacking caused power lock to daze for 2ish seconds. It would seem they stack 1.33 x 1.5 x Daze (**which the tooltip rounds from 1.95 to 2**). ..." Unless I'm understanding you wrong. If what your friend saw was the same thing as shown in [Me Games Ma.8426]'s screenshot above those are icon timers. Tooltips are what is shown in the popup window while hovering over the ability icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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