Peter Panda.5629 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 So I guess we've lost the ability to exchange the limited number of Legendary Insights into Legendary Divinations with the latest patch? When I go to the general raid vendor, the only option I see is to exchange Divinations back into Insights. Which feels really gut-punching, because the only reason I never exchanged LIs before was because I didn't know how many I'd need for the ring and didn't want to buy more than necessary. Now I can't buy them at all. Was there ever any heads-up from ANet that this is no longer going to be possible once the legendary ring is in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vyncius.6105 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 wing 7 glenna still exchanges li to ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Panda.5629 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 > @"vyncius.6105" said: > wing 7 glenna still exchanges li to ld Certainly not for me. I only see the option to exchange Divinations into Insights, which is useless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 > @"Peter Panda.5629" said: > Was there ever any heads-up from ANet that this is no longer going to be possible once the legendary ring is in the game? No, quite the opposite. We have been assured that the option will remain open and _won't_ go away at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Panda.5629 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 @Astralporing.1957 I even remember that post. That's why I never bothered to cautiously exchange it. It's even worse now that you can exchange it the other way around. If they had stated that such change is coming, I would've exchanged the max ammount of LI before patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I do hope this is an oversight. Not because I am personally interested in converting LI to LD (I have enough of both and would be elegible for exchanging 160+ LI into LD) but simply because past communication on this matter was always this trade would remain. One possibility is that there seems no current way to use LD for more than Coalescence (which requires 150 LD) and if this does not change all additional LD become useless (thus making an exchange necessary). The conversion of LD to LI creates a new problem though. With 25 possible LI per week (15 LI + 10 LD converted into LI) the time to acquire necessary LI drops significantly. Creating an even greater disparity in time to acquire legendary armor between game modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivi.3804 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I want my LDs, get it backkkkk:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robles.7458 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I hope we don’t have to wait too much, we have been waiting 2 years to finish the ring and now this bug appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilandra.3641 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Are you sure they're removed? They will not appear for trade from Glenna if the insights are not in your inventory and have not completed an encounter in Hall of Chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aretak.3826 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Edit: NVM looks like a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robles.7458 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Yes, I am absolutely sure the option to Exchange LI for LD has disappeared. Before the patch I could see the option to exchange when I had LI in my inventory and now I can’t. And I haven’t exchanged 168 LI yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Thank goodness i hv exchanged mine :p i still have over 1k li unused after crafting 3 full sets of leg raid armours Im sure they will bring it back. It must have been an error not to include tht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 It would be nice to hear something from Anet on the issue, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 > @"Cyninja.2954" said: > I do hope this is an oversight. Not because I am personally interested in converting LI to LD (I have enough of both and would be elegible for exchanging 160+ LI into LD) but simply because past communication on this matter was always this trade would remain. > > One possibility is that there seems no current way to use LD for more than Coalescence (which requires 150 LD) and if this does not change all additional LD become useless (thus making an exchange necessary). > > The conversion of LD to LI creates a new problem though. With 25 possible LI per week (15 LI + 10 LD converted into LI) the time to acquire necessary LI drops significantly. Creating an even greater disparity in time to acquire legendary armor between game modes. Doesnt it kinda balance out tho? U trade extra time on a weekly basis for more li which makes sense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Stephane Lo Presti.7258 Posted June 13, 2019 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted June 13, 2019 Here's a quick message from the developers: When we released The Mythwright Gambit raid wing, we introduced a limited means to exchange Legendary Insights for Legendary divinations. Alongside this most recent raid release, we have reversed this exchange. You can now exchange Legendary Divinations for Legendary Insights as many times as you’d like. We’re now at 7 raid wings and while Legendary Armor is still incredibly sought after, players may feel pressured to complete older raid content to get the required Legendary Insights. This change will allow you to make progress towards your legendary armor while participating in the most current raid content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LioTyphoon.1246 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 It would have been nice, if we had known this before the new wing have been released. The Devs said in another Forum post, that there is no time limit, to exchange the LI into LD. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParagonPaladin.7516 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Sure would have been nice to know that the limited LI -> LD exchange was going away in advance of it just being stealthed out. LD's had no purpose until this patch, so I held off on doing the exchange of LI -> LD until the specifics of crafting Coalescence were laid out. I've made my Legendary armor, and I have no intention of going through that again for more sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 > @"Stephane Lo Presti.7258" said: > Here's a quick message from the developers: > > When we released The Mythwright Gambit raid wing, we introduced a limited means to exchange Legendary Insights for Legendary divinations. Alongside this most recent raid release, we have reversed this exchange. You can now exchange Legendary Divinations for Legendary Insights as many times as you’d like. > > We’re now at 7 raid wings and while Legendary Armor is still incredibly sought after, players may feel pressured to complete older raid content to get the required Legendary Insights. This change will allow you to make progress towards your legendary armor while participating in the most current raid content. So you going back on this thread then? https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54756/a-note-about-future-raid-rewards/p1 As other have said would have been nice to know so we could have exchanged before this wing went live. Edit Byron Miller.4629Byron Miller.4629 ArenaNet › September 12, 2018 @Linken.6345 said: Thanks for the chance to upgrade even if you havent killed all the bosses every week in wing 5. How long will you be able to upgrade it? This is not a limited time exchange. It will exist until you decide to utilize the exchange 168 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryceanater.8205 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 >Says there is no limit >Hey there was actually a limit Maybe fix your communication On what is a time gated limit and what is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robles.7458 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 It is not fair to reverse the exchange when you said that there was no time limit ( if you do that you were just lying). You could add both options to the players and that would be great. Because many people as me have been waiting to exchange until we knew how many LD were needed for the ring. And now that we need LD, they are removed. That's the worst thing you can do. And it is not fair for the people that waited believing in the words that you told us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorin.4310 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 For me, absolutely unacceptable practice to reverse a feature, with no warning, that was said to be here permanently. This change honestly feels like it was meant to artificially increase the timegate for Coalescence for those who chose to wait to use the exchange because we werent sure how many Legendary Divinations were going to be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEagle.7381 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 So, the devs straight up told us a bold face lie back in September? That's great of them. https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/680435/#Comment_680435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 > @"Stephane Lo Presti.7258" said: > Here's a quick message from the developers: > > When we released The Mythwright Gambit raid wing, we introduced a limited means to exchange Legendary Insights for Legendary divinations. Alongside this most recent raid release, we have reversed this exchange. You can now exchange Legendary Divinations for Legendary Insights as many times as you’d like. > > We’re now at 7 raid wings and while Legendary Armor is still incredibly sought after, players may feel pressured to complete older raid content to get the required Legendary Insights. This change will allow you to make progress towards your legendary armor while participating in the most current raid content. I understand the reasoning beyond adding the LD->LI exchange. I see no explanation for removing the LI->LD one, especially since it was promised to _not_ be time limited, and restricted only by the amount of LIs exchanged. Also, what about making players "feel pressured" into doing the current raids over old ones? Perhaps you could just use LI for everything, and let players choose, and do the content they like the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquen.5406 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 > @"Stephane Lo Presti.7258" said: > Here's a quick message from the developers: > > When we released The Mythwright Gambit raid wing, we introduced a limited means to exchange Legendary Insights for Legendary divinations. Alongside this most recent raid release, we have reversed this exchange. You can now exchange Legendary Divinations for Legendary Insights as many times as you’d like. > > We’re now at 7 raid wings and while Legendary Armor is still incredibly sought after, players may feel pressured to complete older raid content to get the required Legendary Insights. This change will allow you to make progress towards your legendary armor while participating in the most current raid content. This is a bogus response, players specifically asked if this was a limited-time thing for this very reason. They didn't want to be blind-sided. You reassured them that that would not be the case and yet you went and did it anyways. The real reason you removed them is that you want players to grind the latter wings for Coalescence (probably to pad numbers?) but once again this only punishes late comers. For some reason you have a track record of punishing those that are late to the party and I really don't understand it. You've made an awesome game, that people love to play and come back to time and time again and yet you keep repeating the same mistakes - ones that you state you will not do. Stealth changes go directly against the open line of communication you state you have. You made this mistake recently with the Skyscale. People asked what the collection/grind would look like and you basically said we don't want to reveal that. You knew people wouldn't like it and so you remained tight-lipped. Had you explained that it was essentially the precursor to Vision and would be similar to the grind for Aurora, you would have tapered people's expectations and I don't think you would have received as much flack. You had a chance to do better this time around...but nope. You keep doing this and it baffles me, how do you build trust with your community if you keep hiding things or going back on your word? I would urge you to undo this change immediately, or it's a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Lhogora.6917 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Well done... Very well done. Devs said that there **_will no time limit_** and now you removed it ??? You didn't have the decency to warn us ??? I've been waiting for Coalescence to be in the game before exchange my LI to LD, like a lot of ppl here. That's not fair at all. I'm very upset at you right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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