LaFurion.3167 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 So you only get 3 per acc on release and have to buy more if you want to be able to use more than 3 builds?? Is the 3 build slots per class?? So 3 ranger builds and 3 warrior builds etc, or just 3 across the whole acc?? Because.... gem store for build slots seems kind of money grubbing. I'm grateful for the system though sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noizer.4032 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 "At release, each character will get three Build Template tabs, which will be preloaded with their existing equipped builds from PvE, PvP, and WvW. " "Each of your characters will have access to two Equipment Template tabs for free, and the first will be automatically populated with an Equipment Template..." I know reading is hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 So, basically, at start you will gain additional gear set template slot, and no additional build slots (you already have 3 - pve, wvw and pvp). For anything more you will need to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajaxx.3157 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Noizer.4032" said: > "At release, each character will get three Build Template tabs, which will be preloaded with their existing equipped builds from PvE, PvP, and WvW. " > "Each of your characters will have access to two Equipment Template tabs for free, and the first will be automatically populated with an Equipment Template..." > > I know reading is hard... Imagine reading lol.. you're funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If you don't want to buy more build slots you'll have 2 options: 1) Change it manually like you do now 2) Save the chat links for builds somewhere on your PC and load from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewfield.7802 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"LaFurion.3167" said: > So you only get 3 per acc on release and have to buy more if you want to be able to use more than 3 builds?? > > Is the 3 build slots per class?? So 3 ranger builds and 3 warrior builds etc, or just 3 across the whole acc?? > > Because.... gem store for build slots seems kind of money grubbing. I'm grateful for the system though sigh... Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiranslee.4829 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > @"LaFurion.3167" said: > > So you only get 3 per acc on release and have to buy more if you want to be able to use more than 3 builds?? > > > > Is the 3 build slots per class?? So 3 ranger builds and 3 warrior builds etc, or just 3 across the whole acc?? > > > > Because.... gem store for build slots seems kind of money grubbing. I'm grateful for the system though sigh... > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > I would argue running what u call business, in this manner, leads to shutting down, but hey thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"fewfield.7802" said: > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. I can only feel sad about how much did the standarts change, and how much do we allow devs to get away with nowadays. Time after time we allow for the envelope to be pushed further and further. I really worry how bad it will be in 2-3 years from now. I mean, several years ago this would be considered to be an expansion feature - one of _many_ expansion features. Now we have people defending the fact that this feature, alone, will probably cost more than an expac would. So, tell me again how it is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Scorpionwitch.8567 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 It was also stated that an additional pack of 3 slots would be available for free for a limited time after release. So 6 slots free at release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoni.7015 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Some people here seem to forget that Anet and its employees need to make money or do you work for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewfield.7802 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > I can only feel sad about how much did the standarts change, and how much do we allow devs to get away with nowadays. Time after time we allow for the envelope to be pushed further and further. I really worry how bad it will be in 2-3 years from now. > > So you dont want Anet to make money from their own game? Alot of things in the game are free and they have only few ways to draw money from people. A lot of people also farm in-game gold and convert them to gems. I dont see any problems in this issue. If you dont wanna spend real money, then go farm gold and convert them Anet also gives some slots to everyone but people are acting like they will get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewfield.7802 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"kiranslee.4829" said: > > > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > > @"LaFurion.3167" said: > > > So you only get 3 per acc on release and have to buy more if you want to be able to use more than 3 builds?? > > > > > > Is the 3 build slots per class?? So 3 ranger builds and 3 warrior builds etc, or just 3 across the whole acc?? > > > > > > Because.... gem store for build slots seems kind of money grubbing. I'm grateful for the system though sigh... > > > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > > > > I would argue running what u call business, in this manner, leads to shutting down, but hey thats just me. Without money the game will be shut down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Alexa Scorpionwitch.8567" said: > It was also stated that an additional pack of 3 slots would be available for free for a limited time after release. So 6 slots free at release. Those are account-wide build slots. Not the _per character_ build tabs and gear tabs. > @"fewfield.7802" said: > Without money the game will be shut down anyway. If it cannot sustain itself without selling core features like this, then maybe it's not worth saving anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherofMalakir.4067 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoX.3124 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Next feature : Enter into the very last raid wing for 2000 gems. Extra boss for 800 gems only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram.8256 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? > > The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. You mean like saving trait setups? I know we could save them in GW. I have not seen how to save them in GW2. Did they add it, and I did not hear about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Tukaram.8256" said: > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? > > > > The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. > > You mean like saving trait setups? I know we could save them in GW. I have not seen how to save them in GW2. Did they add it, and I did not hear about it? There is an unofficial-but-greenlit add-on called ArcDPS that includes a build-saving functionality that the creator has stated is only until Anet launches official templates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miellyn.6847 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? > > The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. We also knew since their introduction with ArcDPS that they will be removed from Arc once the official solution will be released. That was the condition under which they were allowed in the first place. > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > If it cannot sustain itself without selling core features like this, then maybe it's not worth saving anymore. > So the game was not worth playing since release? Character slots and bank tabs are also core features. Maybe we allowed them already 7 years ago to get away with it and it was too late when the game released in 2012? The feature itself is free, just not all slots available. Big difference and puts it in line with character, bank and inventory slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram.8256 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > @"Tukaram.8256" said: > > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > > > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? > > > > > > The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. > > > > You mean like saving trait setups? I know we could save them in GW. I have not seen how to save them in GW2. Did they add it, and I did not hear about it? > > There is an unofficial-but-greenlit add-on called ArcDPS that includes a build-saving functionality that the creator has stated is only until Anet launches official templates. Ok. No wonder I never heard of it. But that also means that Arenanet never gave it to us for free... so any slots they give us for free is an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeon.4583 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Kinda have no problem with that. 3 build template tabs are more than enough, In my case i don't have PvP WvW PvE builds, rather PvP WvW PvE characters. We survived bag slots farms, can survive this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherofMalakir.4067 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Tukaram.8256" said: > > @"ButcherofMalakir.4067" said: > > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > > Question: please define the fundamental difference between this and the sale of bank slot, bag slots and shared inventory slots? > > > > The diference is that we had allowed templates in game for at least 2 years and now they are baned. For those that were using templates already it is paying for something they already have and not new feature. > > You mean like saving trait setups? I know we could save them in GW. I have not seen how to save them in GW2. Did they add it, and I did not hear about it? Arcdps Is allowed addon in the game. One of its features were build templates. You saved separately skills, legendary gear, traits and nonlegendary gear. You could also save only few parts of gear so to swap weapons but lef your gear the same as it was. Personaly my chrono has ~8 diferent legendary templates, ~12 diferent nonlegendary templates, ~15 traitlines and ~6 skill combinations. Some of those nonlegendary templates are just for swaping weapons so in reality there are 30+ builds (with legendary/nonlegendary combinations included). Swaping traits by hand is ok (i will write some piece of paper to remind me what to pick) but swaping whole gear takes sooo long that I will have to buy ~10 templates minimum. And I can say goodbye to "half templates" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep.4026 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > I can only feel sad about how much did the standarts change, and how much do we allow devs to get away with nowadays. Time after time we allow for the envelope to be pushed further and further. I really worry how bad it will be in 2-3 years from now. > I mean, several years ago this would be considered to be an expansion feature - one of _many_ expansion features. Now we have people defending the fact that this feature, alone, will probably cost more than an expac would. > > So, tell me again how it is okay. > > Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tukaram.8256 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"Shep.4026" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > > I can only feel sad about how much did the standarts change, and how much do we allow devs to get away with nowadays. Time after time we allow for the envelope to be pushed further and further. I really worry how bad it will be in 2-3 years from now. > > I mean, several years ago this would be considered to be an expansion feature - one of _many_ expansion features. Now we have people defending the fact that this feature, alone, will probably cost more than an expac would. > > > > So, tell me again how it is okay. > > > > > > Couldn't agree more. It does sound like what would be an expansion feature. But, in an expansion, they would probably only give us a limited amount (say 3?), and then make more available for sale. So if they are giving us 3 for free, and making more available - yeah, that is alright with me. I doubt I would ever use the 3 they give us... but we each play differently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 > @"kiranslee.4829" said: > > > @"fewfield.7802" said: > > > @"LaFurion.3167" said: > > > So you only get 3 per acc on release and have to buy more if you want to be able to use more than 3 builds?? > > > > > > Is the 3 build slots per class?? So 3 ranger builds and 3 warrior builds etc, or just 3 across the whole acc?? > > > > > > Because.... gem store for build slots seems kind of money grubbing. I'm grateful for the system though sigh... > > > > Ofc it's money-grabbing. Anet is doing BUSINESS not a charity. I dont wanna lose money neither but it's understandable. > > > > I would argue running what u call business, in this manner, leads to shutting down, but hey thats just me. I guess getting some free and buy more is money grabbing. Might as well complain players are being screwed over by limited bank space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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