Josiah.2967 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 This new video has me so flustered. This guy is useless. He's like the abusive drunk we keep around....but don't know why. Nothing can redeem him. Please do not give him an "I Win" power/ability. If his ability makes me feel useless, or if I am dependent on him... I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoEliteSixSixSix.8935 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Can we give him the "That was easy" button from those old Staples (I think?) commercials instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrigginPaco.4178 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 If you look at it short-term, it definitely looks like it. However, Braham _has been with us on this ride for a while now._ Sure, he was angsty for a bit after Eir left the world, but... I don't think it'll be super egregious if he at least gets a neato power-up. The boy is still running DH anyhow :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YtseJam.9784 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Braham sucks, he should have died years ago. I'm not looking forward for a Braham-centric story... SKIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weindrasi.3805 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Braham is fine as a character. I'm curious to see how this will develop, and I think he's a good companion for the PC. People just need something to whine over, and Braham drew the short stick as the "forums love to hate" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Yeah, it used to be Scarlet. And now, many fond memories. Funny how that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XatraZaytrax.2601 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Jerk let me die in a couple story missions, and was such a pain against spiders. This was on top of his incessant whining. All will be forgiven if Anet let's me punch him in the face. Would play that arc several times with relish. Only then will I accept him as a hero and suitable companion. Just hope he doesn't go all dark and I have to put him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Braham can have the i win button so long as a charr gets the i win button immediately after him making us completely forget about him in an episode or two still waiting on my expanding charr content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilkemia.8507 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 So far my main annoyance is that he's suddenly a special norn of prophecy despite not being a "true norn". Granted, I'm sure it could be argued that the Commander is kinda in that position as well now, but we've more or less earned our chosen one status by this point. I've more or less gotten over his problems from before, though they leave inconsistencies. His angry brooding phase would've made more sense back in HoT when/shortly after Eir was killed, not after we more or less avenged her twice. His sudden fear of spiders in Kormir's Refuge (or whatever it was called) made no sense because he fought spiders with us in Bitterfrost Frontier and didn't even notice a difference between them and everything else in there (maybe his emo brooding phase overrode his fear?..meh.) I still think he shouldn't have been Eir's son from the start, even though I more or less tolerate his presence now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I think the implication is that no Norn are true Norn anymore, like all the races (except Sylvari, who are new), time has watered them down, they've forgotten their true ways and their true purposes which are only followed by the most devout now. Braham isn't special at all, he's just an average Norn..look around, they're everywhere, mostly just like him. I have a feeling this saga will mostly be about the Charr and the Norn "getting back in the saddle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I’ve seen complaints on the forums about our character being The Commander Who Can Overcome Every Challenge And Slay Dragons and Gods (or sentiments to that effect). Maybe ANet has taken this to heart and Braham is going to become the Commander in our stead and our character will be second in command, or third after Taimi, and will follow him around and take his orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky.4861 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 We have to remember that Brahm was written the way he was on purpose, to make us feel a certain way, and that the writers are probably seeing this reaction as proof of good writing. I don't think it is, because i know there was a definite misandrist leaning in a now-ex writer. I'm hoping they can transform his previously badly-written character into something more akin to rytlock or rox so that we can have a believable male character we can give credit to. The problem is that he has no parental role-models, and norn are too culturally proud to accept the wisdom of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 > @"Funky.4861" said: > We have to remember that Brahm was written the way he was on purpose, to make us feel a certain way, and that the writers are probably seeing this reaction as proof of good writing. I don't think it is, because i know there was a definite misandrist leaning in a now-ex writer. I'm hoping they can transform his previously badly-written character into something more akin to rytlock or rox so that we can have a believable male character we can give credit to. The problem is that he has no parental role-models, and norn are too culturally proud to accept the wisdom of others. Im glad anet wrote him to be completely so anti Norn that hes become little more than a large whinny teenage human. Hes gotten a little better, but after the way he acted in LS3, and the few appearances he had in POF and LS4 i will never again want him in any story instances. I would honestly prefer if he was replaced with Canach for the rest of the game than have him be present, he was written that poorly for to long. The problem is not his lack of parental role-models, Norn are supposed to be strong on their own, and try to outdo their parents legacy after their parents pass. The problem is they threw all the lore they wrote for how Norn deal with things out the window when it came to his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coso.9173 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 i'll never get all the hate for him, he acted like a jerk for a while like 2 years ago, get over it, people aren't always nice to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon.2875 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 "I just want my bow!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaklex.6308 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 > @"YtseJam.9784" said: > Braham sucks, he should have died years ago. I'm not looking forward for a Braham-centric story... SKIP! Might want to skip the entire Icebrood Saga then, he'll be central to the entire story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 > @"Dante.1763" said: > > @"Funky.4861" said: > > We have to remember that Brahm was written the way he was on purpose, to make us feel a certain way, and that the writers are probably seeing this reaction as proof of good writing. I don't think it is, because i know there was a definite misandrist leaning in a now-ex writer. I'm hoping they can transform his previously badly-written character into something more akin to rytlock or rox so that we can have a believable male character we can give credit to. The problem is that he has no parental role-models, and norn are too culturally proud to accept the wisdom of others. > > Im glad anet wrote him to be completely so anti Norn that hes become little more than a large whinny teenage human. Hes gotten a little better, but after the way he acted in LS3, and the few appearances he had in POF and LS4 i will never again want him in any story instances. I would honestly prefer if he was replaced with Canach for the rest of the game than have him be present, he was written that poorly for to long. > > The problem is not his lack of parental role-models, Norn are supposed to be strong on their own, and try to outdo their parents legacy after their parents pass. The problem is they threw all the lore they wrote for how Norn deal with things out the window when it came to his actions. > > > You don't seem to understand the character very well, or the effects on someone who has lost their biological parents (especially with a complex family history). And generalizing how Norn are supposed to be and react is another problem you have. Do you also generalize about X race or culture in RL? Do you not see people as individuals, or do you assume that every member of X race or culture is supposed to be and think the exact same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keriana.9635 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I also can't stand Braham and do not want to see him in another saga, season, or episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Braham is awful, but it's not his fault. I'm sure whoever designed him as a character had the best of intentions just like all the characters in the game. GW2 has a briiliantly diverse list of characters from all walks of life, with their own agendas and stories. It is so unfortunate then, that the writing in the game continues to be such a monsterous let down. The characters are reduced to angsty teenage hero caricatures over and over again. We've seen it with Destiny's Edge's childish bickering. We've seen it with Taimi's constant desire to be recognised. We've seen it with Braham being a little biatch. So far the only character I haven't wanted to punch in the face over and over again is Canuck, because he does all the things I wish my character would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsakhi.8124 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Personally, I look forward to watching my teammates grow. Including that pissy Norn. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoNewb.5468 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 You get a chose prophecy, and you , and you... ... are you getting tired of prophecy moving the story along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I don’t get why people are SO unforgiving of the way he acted, like he hasn’t been annoying the entire time! Just mostly in 3. In 4 he was much better, I like him a good bit now. And people are complaining he’s whiny in the new episode from November? He feels bad that he left his guild here and most/all of them are dead or corrupted. Geez, you DONT expect him to feel bad about that? If he didn’t people would just say he has no emotions and it was a missed opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentMoore.9453 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 > @"Fenom.9457" said: > I don’t get why people are SO unforgiving of the way he acted, like he hasn’t been annoying the entire time! That's actually what's so annoying about the character: He does a dumb thing, he repents, then he immediately does something else that makes you lose all faith in his ability to redeem himself or stick to his guns. This cycle of abandoning/hurting the commander (and others) and then crawling back to them later becomes a joke after a while, and a bad one at that. I feel the only thing Braham really offers to the story is the idea that it's okay for someone to continually make poor choices and/or abuse you if something sad happened to them and that you're not a good person if you don't forgive them every time. Some people say he's realistic and that he's meant to be this way, but I don't see that as a defense when talking about the value of the character in the narrative. There are plenty of people like Braham in real life who will continually take you for granted and then beg for forgiveness later, and I don't need them in my life's story either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Nothing wrong with Braham in my opinion. I don't understand why people get so whiny and angsty about Braham. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiilimon.6094 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Every time I'm playing the story, I feel like there should be another story where you're the bad guy, just because I want to kill the whole bunch myself. Imagine how nice the next story part would be if they all just kicked the bucket and we could play solo :D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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