rogermkiihl.1967 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 For **my group** I am talking about five non-experienced players who started from fractal level 1 going up knowing only about base mechanics read/saw in guides. T1 was easy, T2 started (at some insta+bosses combo above lvl 35) showing no mercy. Then my question is: Moving from a Tempest to a **Firebrand Healer will help this group breath and learn what is happening around** or will it only blind us about our flaws? Ps: group has a renegade, warrior banner, dragonhunter, reaper and me (tempest for now). Besides of myself, I don't intend to force others change their classes/specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 > @"rogermkiihl.1967" said: > Moving from a Tempest to a **Firebrand Healer will help this group breath and learn what is happening around** or will it only blind us about our flaws? Both, but what you can do is make a Firebrand with both a quickbrand setup and heal setup (quickbrand doesn't nee that much boon duration, 20-30% is sufficient and can be reached via food and fractal poitions or 1-2 diviner pieces or a Sigil of Concentration). Then start as quickbrand with less healing, healing is not really needed below T4 and even T4 can be done without a dedicated healer, swap to heal firebrand if things get to challenging. The benefit here is that players will first experience the content without healer but have the option to have a healer carry them. > @"rogermkiihl.1967" said: > Ps: group has a renegade, warrior banner, dragonhunter, reaper and me (tempest for now). Besides of myself, I don't intend to force others change their classes/specs. Should not be necessary. A Firebrand, Renegade, bs warrior, DH and reaper setup can clear ANY fractal content, including CMs, with minimal challenge. I dare say it's probably the easiest group setup one can go for atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safandula.8723 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 With Firebrand u could support ur Group with quickness so, that would be surely beneficial. Although ur right, heal Firebrand (all healers tbf) make u face roll thru the content, without realising what ur actually doing wrong. If u want to complet dailies easy just go heal fb. If u want to improve, u can play without healer for most of the Time. Fractals are mainly about positioning urself properly, and doing good cc on trash mobs or boss and bursting . For example darkrazor from renegade is 6 sec pulsing daze. In this Time u can easilly kill all mobs, making dedicated healer unnecessery. Its just one example. Renegade elite skill is one of Best healing skill in the game it just requires ur party to attack. But if ull struggle, and ull die and ull get frustrated, just go with healer, remember u play this game for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogermkiihl.1967 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 > @"Cyninja.2954" said: > Both, but what you can do is make a Firebrand with both a quickbrand setup and heal setup Interesting. Starts with both of them until I can split them and use one or other in different situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogermkiihl.1967 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 > @"Safandula.8723" said: > If u want to complet dailies easy just go heal fb. > If u want to improve, u can play without healer for most of the Time. Great. That's the group goal: learn. We decided to instead of **blindly follow meta** just try and learn until we could by our efforts understand **what meta is about**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDudisx.5914 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 II would go with the heal FB. If the rev and the other 3 dps are good you can clear all T4 dailies in under 30min even with 1 guy running full minstrel no dmg FB. Having one support class in your grupo makes it way easier. Considering you're group is non-experienced I would heavily recommend you to go with 1 support FB. Also, for pugging it way better to play as a heal FB than a dps. With a Heal FB you can carry even terrible groups if you know what you are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 There is no need to stress yourself over this. Use what is needed to make the runs smooth while you are just starting out. Stick to using that Heal FB until everything feels like a breeze. You will know the difference then and you will be able to judge whether it is worth it for your group to replace the healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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