Mini Crinny.6190

> @"Crab Fear.1624" said:

> Okay, let us say I am running this build:

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> [https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Daredevil_-_Dagger/Pistol](https://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Daredevil_-_Dagger/Pistol)

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> I don't...but that doesnt matter.

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> Now, you tell me your build, and how I would beat it with this, or if it is futile.

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> Thank you sensei.

I don't show you how i'm playing and qq on forums until your class gets nerfed so i can roflstomp you ez

> @"Daishi.6027" said:

> Never. Because Mirage is a mesmer and Weaver is an Ele. The Mantra is "Mesmer is OP and broken." No matter the evidence. Historic lack of top placement, Historic in slot replacement, easily identifiable and counter able mechanics, reasonable fair openings; sometimes even less than other classes. Only one damage type dominating while the other barely thrives, proving the survivability mechanics aren't the issue. It doesn't matter: Mesmer broken OP and must be destroyed.

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> Old Cele Ele on the other hand is the ideal CMC sees for every class.... Except Memser.

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> Weaver isn't OP, it's intended.

Yes, bring back cele DD ele and watch it make no difference to PvP anyway

On a more serious note, there are people who actually want balance and then people who, when they die, cry out that it's not them who need to improve, but the class is just too strong and cry out for nerfs, this post is just silly as it wasn't weavers deciding how to balance Mirage and generally the majority of the community doesn't agree with how Anet dealt with Mirage (I say majority because there will be a few people silently happy about the nerfs to mirage).

I have nothing else to say to this post seeing as it's not about balance but to just butcher a class because your still salty about Mirage nerfs

> @"Shroud.2307" said:

> > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said:

> https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tidal_Wave

> 4.6

You do understand that Tidal wave is a underwater skill? No need to spend resource on it if there is no underwater combat :P (In PvP at least) although there is hardly any in WvW too

> @"Akilles.4320" said:

> The ranked system and the matchmaker are the most serious problems PvP has right now.

> But people like to opt for the easiest way which is to ask for nerfs.

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1217930#Comment_1217930

Am I reading it wrong? or are you now asking for the easy way and to nerf?

:eyes:

I guess they could buff Firebrand to counter

If you go by dT then the normal setup is Alac Ren, Hfb, BS, Slb and Weaver

But frankly Dh,cFB,Holo can dish out tons of damage too with Dh being a more popular choice with pugs compared to Weaver in my experience

> @"Jski.6180" said:

> So when they nerf aura clears and reg clears as they are like to do in the next update will this be become of core ele?

I don't think anet actually give a dam about any core spec, It's just classes like Guardian that have a strong core set that makes the elite specs better while other classes, struggle to do anything with core specs nowadays and besides, Base game comes with the expansions.. so as long as the elite specs look good, who cares about core? it's not where the money comes

And the Saga continues

> @"Zeesh.7286" said:

> Can someone give a tldr? I'm a bit intimidated by 2 full pages given that the 3rd page makes no sense to me as to what even is being discussed...

Yes

on one side ele has a mechanic

on another side ele has no mechanic

> @"Filip.7463" said:

> > @"Crab Fear.1624" said:

> > I know it is not prevalent on the forums now, but this class is probably the best at 1 v 1, with like zero bad match-ups; the only problem lies with the primate at the keyboard.

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> In second post you are saying guard is the strongest, in third post you are saying spirit weapons are op, in fourth post you are saying trapper rune is op... decide now pls

It's clear he has no idea what he is talking about

Agreeeed lol, i just did the story real quick and logged to play some FFXIV :D

probably not something anet are prepared to put time into tbh, I don't think its a good idea because then this just opens the door for every other boon and condi countering each other aswell as potentially making classes worse based on what condi and boons they have access too

> @"Markri.9475" said:

> why so low as plat 1? thats hardly a requirement of skill, or knowledge about balance.

> You could have started at top250. Though top 100 would mean more.

> I'm against the idea though, as even top players don't know how to get balance done on a whole.

top 250 of players in the game are alts of players already in top 250 anyway so you get opinions of about 5 people lol

Kick the class while it's down

> @"idontnoso.9850" said:

> PLEASE PPL NOTICE! LOOK WITH YOUR SPECIAL EYES!

im blind please help

> @"Zee.1294" said:

> > @"Mini Crinny.6190" said:

> > I just find it funny how people think the next balance patch will fix all of the problems where it will just create other problems, for me.. there is no point to talk about balance, just move to whatever class is best for whatever game mode you play

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> See... that is exactly why the bar is set so low....Yep... just pick another class....end you call that balance?....ok have fun!

The bar is set low because anet continued to fail.

I just find it funny how people think the next balance patch will fix all of the problems where it will just create other problems, for me.. there is no point to talk about balance, just move to whatever class is best for whatever game mode you play

What's the point? it will only be disappointment anyway

> @"Lenti.3189" said:

> how can people even enjoy this?

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Its the same thing as asking WvW players how to enjoy PvE

In terms of PvE, Open world combat you can play any.. though Necro is easier to play than Ele, Instanced content you will probably have more value with Elementalist elite specs over Necro although Necro is used to some degree, Necro is better in PvP and in WvW Both I feel struggle nowadays but Scourge and Weaver are Okay. Reaper and Tempest are not good, but it depends on what type of gameplay you want in WvW, Large scale or Small scale

Druid offers more offensive buffs with spirits, Spotter, and other things im sure people will point out

> @"fluffdragon.1523" said:

> * **Elementalist:** ... sorry, I've got nothing here. The profession is already such a mixed bag due to elemental attunements, that I really haven't any clue what to offer it.

Any chance you work for anet? This is exactly how they feel about the class already

just dodge

> @"funghetto.1584" said:

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> power damage of some of those skill staff etc needed a tuned down really. as spellofiniquity says, 12k? pls really no....

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> about condis, i think the issue isn't the conditions in itself, but the game mechanics in the all.

> the reality is there are some classes and builds and weapons skill that applies heavy conditions damage as torment and burning. (scepter mesmer- scepter eles - mace/axe revs etc etc).

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> in those case auto attacks applies torment or burning with low low cds.

> combined it with the game mechanics of condi removal that cleanses the first in the list so we will have:

> organized groups etc will have less of an issue;

> but in smaller fights, drop burning-torment that ticks heavily, covered by other conditions as weakness-imob-chill-cripple-bleeding, auto attack torment-burning (stack in intensity so 2-3-4-5-10 stacks), condi removal will remove the first in the list, still having burning and torment bringing you to death.

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> even in a 0 condition damage build, burning still ticks a lot.

Scepter ele is good condi?

> @"Henrik.7560" said:

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> I hope anet realizes their mistake and we don't have to wait 6 months for the next balance update where they barely improve tempest.

You mean wait till a year after expansion because they are too busy nerfing core Ele because of the next elite spec?