Crackers.9628

> @"Brokensunday.4098" said: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > @"Pimsley.3681" said: > > > most dmg I've gotten from a burn guard was 56K, weaver, over 80K. I was cleansing like a mofo but couldn't keep up. Please stop attacking DH and core burn guards. They are not the problem. Cheers. > > > > Most I got from a guard was about 120-150k > > Counting downstate? Could be, doesn´t really matter though.

> @"Pimsley.3681" said: > most dmg I've gotten from a burn guard was 56K, weaver, over 80K. I was cleansing like a mofo but couldn't keep up. Please stop attacking DH and core burn guards. They are not the problem. Cheers. Most I got from a guard was about 120-150k burn.

> @"GROMIT.7829" said: > Dealing with a thief. > > Survive opener on Support Firebrand/Warrior. > Proceed to ignore. > You have one angry Thief. > Profit. > > Never EVER give them attention. Whenever I try to burst someone on my thief and they´re playing a tanky build with 30k hp, I move on. I really don't get angry in the slightest.

> @"Majy.6792" said: > My favorite thing about scourge is how they time gate burning but that's not true for any other class. Burn DH is silly right now, you don't have to have any mastery of the class and can 1v3. Why do people claim DH to be so strong? It has slow, obvious cast times for aoe traps. People can literally walk in a circle and you´ll never hit them with any traps. It´s slow, has barely any gap closers, no decent ranged damage, and heavily dependant on people walking into traps. Spear pulls them in, but it also easily dodgeable and most classes have a teleport, invuln, block, etc. I just don´t see why anyone would claim it´s strong in solo queue beyond silver. Opposite goes for spellbreaker btw, what a clown fiesta when a sb decides to bunker up and play jumping puzzles. Scourge and necro btw is the most braindead class in the game. A class with 40/50k hp and that much sustain on top of mobility AND good damage should pretty much not exist. You know what.. most classes are bollocks in pvp. Ranger with bizarre damage, insane downstate, and perma immob. Warrior with 100 gap closers, 100 cc, and 10000 toughness and 100 blocks. Firebrand which is unkillable. Revenant with the clown damage. They just managed to make a lot of specs cancerous. If you look at moba´s you can see it is possible to make classes very challenging to fight, but there is always something you can do to counter something. A water tempest? Shit out of luck. Cannot do anything. It´s like rock paper scissors.

> @"Junkpile.7439" said: > Yesterday i did meet toxic player. I was trebbing sm while listening audiobook and this one bearbow ranger tried to shoot barrage whole time. Told him stop that or i pause my book and kill him. He was like i have right to defend sm or some low rank player nosense so i stealthed and one hitted him and he was like "you play useless troll build". I then whispered that i block him because elitespec user, toxic and under 6k rank. Then he did go crazy and started to treb tower from sm. :# Yeah, this is pretty much the toxicity I´m talking about here. Your reaction, not his.

> @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > This discussion is pointless as both of you ignore whatever you want, make up things order to make a point, and shift goal posts continuously to win an argument. 90% of your arguments are completely fabricated. > > All I did was quote your posts..... > > How am I making things up? > > You literally changed one of my posts you "quoted" into something I did not say.

This discussion is pointless as both of you ignore whatever you want, make up things order to make a point, and shift goal posts continuously to win an argument. If I was toxic I would not make this thread. I don't attack people who are dueling. I don't gather a group of guildies to chase down someone spawn after spawn. I don't transfer servers to help my buddies on the other server. I don't whisper people to tell them they are trash. I've played 15k hours of dota and trust me, any dota player is used to toxic behaviour. After I opened this topic I got 3 people telling me I'm trash and dropping siege. I don't complain because it's part of the game. However, this group of server hopping griefers are just a level of toxic not experienced before hence why I opened the thread. That is the last I will say, since you seem hell bend on making up the rules to somehow paint me as the bad guy. If you want a real discussion stick to what you actually know (hint: nothing) about this situation and don't twist everything I say into a story. 90% of your arguments are completely fabricated.

> @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > So.. now that’s twice you’ve gone to name calling. ? Being ok with toxic behaviour but instantly offended at the word troll?

> @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > Ok.., hold on a second here..... > > First you state you were roaming: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > I was roaming as thief. Some thief killed me and started jumping and dropped siege on me. Naturally I went back and killed him this time, only for someone on my own server to start trash talking me, calling me kitten, noob, he will transfer to farm me, etc. He has in the same guild as the thief I killed. > > > > The thief came back, and because my server mate stood on me, the thief could track my stealth and killed me. Then of course more trash talk and dropping siege. > > > > Of course the toxicity is rampant from other servers, but how are people so awful they literally grief their own teammates? Actively helping enemy server kill your own server. > > > > Then you state you were dueling: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > @"BadBrain.2195" said: > > > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > > I was roaming as thief. Some thief killed me and started jumping and dropped siege on me. Naturally I went back and killed him this time, only for someone on my own server to start trash talking me, calling me kitten, noob, he will transfer to farm me, etc. He has in the same guild as the thief I killed. > > > > > > > > The thief came back, and because my server mate stood on me, the thief could track my stealth and killed me. Then of course more trash talk and dropping siege. > > > > > > > > Of course the toxicity is rampant from other servers, but how are people so awful they literally grief their own teammates? Actively helping enemy server kill your own server. > > > > > > > Funny thing, cause you weren't roaming but just ganking duelers at duel spot :) > > > If you jump on dueler and interrupt fights what do you expect, we gonna be happy? > > > Our guildmate got u in 1v1 then you ganked him, sieged and jumped, that's where everything started. > > > Why you wont say a thing about trying to gank him later for nearly 1.5h and being mad? > > > > > > > For the second time, they were not kitten dueling you kitten. I was dueling someone and they ganked me. > > > > Jesus christ do me a favour and go away instead of defending these dirt bags. > > > > Edit: just realized you are this trash. I literally switched maps after 15 mins because you kept griefing everyone. Don't make up any stories. > > > > Now I don’t have any skin in the game but it would seem that @"BadBrain.2195" has a more likely scenario. Not to say that ‘ganging people at the duel spot’ is wrong, but complaining about retribution is.. well to quote @"Sobx.1758" ’hypocritical’ 1. How do you think I find duels? By roaming? 2. In the scenario I ganked someone when they were dueling. Which means I attacked someone on the other server. PvP, WvW, is any form of "retribution" warranted against someone attacking an enemy player? You people are holding hands above each others head. Just stop sieging people, stop whispering them, etc. No need to come on the forums and make up stories to defend each other.

> @"Sobx.1758" said: > Ooooooooooh so OP did something he considers toxic, someone did the same thing back to him and now he's on the forum complaining about people doing toxic stuff that he does himself as well. Great thread, had fun reading all of the 6 relevant posts in it. Yeah.... I don't really switch servers to grief my own server mates. Anyway, were you the deadeye from that group?

> @"BadBrain.2195" said: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > @"BadBrain.2195" said: > > > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > > I was roaming as thief. Some thief killed me and started jumping and dropped siege on me. Naturally I went back and killed him this time, only for someone on my own server to start trash talking me, calling me kitten, noob, he will transfer to farm me, etc. He has in the same guild as the thief I killed. > > > > > > > > The thief came back, and because my server mate stood on me, the thief could track my stealth and killed me. Then of course more trash talk and dropping siege. > > > > > > > > Of course the toxicity is rampant from other servers, but how are people so awful they literally grief their own teammates? Actively helping enemy server kill your own server. > > > > > > > Funny thing, cause you weren't roaming but just ganking duelers at duel spot :) > > > If you jump on dueler and interrupt fights what do you expect, we gonna be happy? > > > Our guildmate got u in 1v1 then you ganked him, sieged and jumped, that's where everything started. > > > Why you wont say a thing about trying to gank him later for nearly 1.5h and being mad? > > > > > > > For the second time, they were not kitten dueling you kitten. I was dueling someone and they ganked me. > > > > Jesus christ do me a favour and go away instead of defending these dirt bags. > > > > Edit: just realized you are this trash. I literally switched maps after 15 mins because you kept griefing everyone. Don't make up any stories. > > > > Nice behaviour of you I see. > Calling me trash now.. > No sense of futher discussion, see ya. Because your in game behaviour is appalling. No need for discussion.

> @"Cynz.9437" said: > > @"Crackers.9628" said: > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > >  > > > > > > Because they are. > > > > Ranger and thieves. They just attract a kind of people. > > Please talk for yourself. I never trashtalk people nor tbag them yet i have been trashtalked countless times as a thief and even reported for simply existing or (OMG HOW DARE I) when running away from outnumbered situation. Funny enough when i play other classes nobody does it to me however i get to see how extremely toxic the squads are to the thieves that join them or just pass by, even if those thieves actually try to help and work as recon. Toxic people will be always toxic, no matter what class they play. > I have been playing this game pretty much since launch, surely it is common for pvp similar environment to be toxic BUT WvW community in this game actually got worse over the years. In vanilla people worked together despite the class. Now people just trashtalk (for the lack of better pc word) anyone who doesn't fit their agenda (aka play zerg meta). It feels like it has become some kind of sport - who can trashtalk a thief more. You guys seriously should look at yourself before you just label every thief player as toxic waste. I literally only play thief

> @"Susy.7529" said: > They were doing their own business, why didn't you just ignore them and move on to another target? > I know some will say WvW is a competitive mode and everything is valid but there is something called "**etiquette**", if you see 2 enemies fight in a duel, you let them be. I would be pissed too if I were trying to play with my friends and someone else butt in. They were not dueling? They attacked me while I WAS DUELING SOMEONE ELSE. They were literally doing the thing you´re accusing me of and still bm´ing me.

> @"Mithras.2805" said: > I have no problem with someone killing me, jumping on me or throwing siege weapons. It is enough for ArenaNet to pop up a window asking if I want to receive a message from someone on another server. It would be enough if there was no physical possibility of writing between servers without permission. Not having this option is quite a disrespect for people who want to play with culture. I never get whispers but hear the ping sound for whispers constantly. Can these people even whisper me?

> @"PrinceValentine.9320" said: > What server are you on? > > I suggest to just block your server mate and report for Verbal Abuse. I run with a squad that do not tolerate this kind of BM (bad manners). Most servers on lower tiers are like this, I observerd. They are so stressed they can't climb up the ladder so they resort to unsportsmanlike behaviours. The group was from Ring of Fire, I´m from FSP. They run around with a guild group, kill people and just the 3 of them start jumping and griefing. It´s insane that any group that plays together actively shows this toxic behaviour and everyone is on board with it.