Kruhljak.2705

Thanks for the suggestion. I updated to the most recent version of Chrome and Java (was one update behind on both). I checked after this and noticed that, strangely, the graphs and tabled buy / sell values are now only up to Feb 18 ~10am from Feb 18 7pm. Weird. I went ahead and tried the TMZ "fix" after that but there were no further changes to the site. Could just be something up with highcharts.com regurgitating old data. Unfortunately, I think gw2tp is pretty much on autopilot, and there's no readily available contact info on the site, so looks like a wait and see thing.

As I was replying to a couple of the posts here, I was also watching one of the accounts I've been keeping an eye on as they cycled through maps. I placed a character, one from each of my accounts, at each of four different JP chests, and waited for them to shift to one of those maps just to get one more direct visual on the same character appearing directly at two JPs without any traveling. While I was doing so I saw another character appear at the Southsun Cove Skipping Stones chest and took a screenshot just on a whim because they appeared nearly hanging off the ledge--a weird spot to park yourself. Added them to my friends list just out of curiosity and lo and behold, saw the same map cycling activity at work. Since I already had my other alt accounts parked and ready for the original target to show me more proof of my suspicions, I decided to watch for this new target. Once they cycled to Fireheart Rise, where I had a character parked on the Pig Iron Quarry JP scaffolding platform, I waited for about 20 seconds and yep, they appeared smack on top of the chest. They failed to loot it due to the shaman lava fonting, then launching them off the plateau. Interestingly, instead of ending up dead at the bottom, they immediately logged out before hitting the ground and then back in again, but not back into Fireheart Rise, but into Crystal Oasis. Things don't work that way. Probably explains why Crystal Oasis shows up in theses accounts' map cycles more than once pretty often. It must be the map where the bot program returns a character when they experience a death. So I've caught four distinct accounts already, and no doubt there are plenty more. Thanks for all your input. It did make me second guess and try a bit more to get even more solid proof.

> @"Treacy.4067" said: > If they're teleporting from node to node then they're hacking. It's really bad especially on the season 3 maps. You have to keep in mind though that sometimes people do park alts at things like a single rich node or a specific chest. So it's possible they are simply logging in and out. You can tell if they're using teleport hacks if you see a gathering of nodes on screen and they teleport to each. Well, this isn't character cycling at a chest or node. It's easy to see if someone is cycling through characters whether at the same chest/node or any other just by watching the friends list data. ...and I have one last post to make...

> @"Danikat.8537" said: > Having said all that, I'm curious now: How can you see what they're doing? How are you able to get from one JP chest to another quickly enough to see them appear and disappear? If you're not there how do you know they're appearing at JP chests and not some other spot (like a waypoint)? I multibox four accounts when I play. When the character moved to one of the maps I posted a character at (at a JP chest), I shifted to that one's window to see if the character appeared at the chest.

Interesting. Well, I don't know either. There must be some plan in mind even if the gold is relatively chump change to whoever's doing it. As for how I know it's one person? I don't, but it's either one person or a collective, so for purposes of the question it doesn't really matter. It'll be interesting to see if these leaf fossils suddenly have a new use in an upcoming game update. As I said in the OP, it's a weird item to start throwing money at without some expectations. Get 'em cheap while you still can! (no trampling, please).

I hadn't see this sort of witchcraft in so long I sorta forgot about it even being a thing. Teleport hacking seems to be something that should be recognizable by code, but I'm not going to claim I have any idea how that works. I thought maybe ANet figured out a way to deal with in entirely. Perhaps that's not even possible. Welp, I'm gonna collect up a few more bit of info on accounts I see doing this stuff and toss it to ANet's support staff and then wash my hands of it. Even I have more important things to do. ;-)

I phrased the post specifically to not lead the question, but instead to get at whether there was some new thing in the game that would allow players to do this sort of hop to point thing since I'm not well versed in the late game areas. I figured there wasn't, but I was curious to see if anyone did know of something in the game that might legitimately explain this sort of thing. What I've been seeing is a set of accounts with characters appearing at JP chests, looting, vanishing. Clearly this alone isn't suspicious. However, this is occurring with one character at a time, hopping from map to map every several seconds (for the most part). This isn't a log in, loot chest, log out, switch characters, log back in, etc. routine. Without some legit mechanic, there's no way a single character can loot a chest, then immediately appear on a new map at a different chest with no interim travel time, much less over the course of 25+ maps in a cycle. I watched them appearing at Antre, then Draconis Mons, then Pig Iron Quarry during their cycle while I had alt accounts stationed there. Each time the map changed in the friends list they immediately appeared at these chests. As it relates to mining nodes, this was a bit different with a different tip off: moving directly to a different map while in combat mode, no logging in/out involved. But when watching them they also showed the map-hopping behavior which tells me they're probably using the same hack with mining as the focus rather the simple chest looting. Didn't follow this up because it's probably just tied to the same thing. I was pretty sure this was a bot hack at work right from the beginning when I saw characters appearing at the Antre of Adjournment JP chest, vibrating wildly while going through the 3 second chest opening animation before vanishing. This immediately reminded me of the old mining bots that used to infest the game. They also appeared at nodes, vibrating while mining, then teleported away to the next node. Direct teleport to a given coord the game doesn't really want you at will cause this sort of combat between the bot program and the game constantly shifting the character's position back and forth (or so I understand). This is what spurred me to follow the activities of these accounts. I wasn't surprised at what I saw, but I did want to verify I wasn't just ignorant of some limited use mechanic or item recently added to the game. This has been going on everyday since I first noticed it. Now that my suspicions seem to have been confirmed, I'll drop a note to ANet and see if they care about it. If anyone sees flaws in my reasoning above, feel free to let me know. I could still be wrong, but I obviously don't see where. Anyway, thanks for the input. I know some people are tired of other people worrying about cheaters and botters. Fair enough. You go about your business and ignore it. I happen to despise both and don't mind taking a brief break from regular play to put on my deerstalker and see if I can sleuth out some evidence to figure out what's up. It's like a mini-game. If nothing comes of it, so be it. I just feel ignoring it invites more of it. Tacit acceptance and all that. I prefer less cheating to more. I assume most people and ANet do as well.