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bruh. let me find out GS rev is in so I can finally run around with twilight. Make an edgelord happy pls
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> @"Opopanax.1803" said:
> Remove weapon energy cost, just use CDs.
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> All utilities and elites now use initiative. Rebalance using initiative costs.
heavy armored thief incoming B)
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rremove the CD and make it energy cost only then :^)
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I wouldn't mind seeing energy removed from skills for a day. I'd love to see revenants walk onto a point and just spam sw4 until their out of energy and then watch explode as they try to escape. :)
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I would've thought I rated higher on both categories but eh. I know my knowledge from classes comes only really from fighting them so much and not playing them myself so my mechanical ability does suffer.
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Born to tall to be a dwarf
Born to short to be a giant
Born just the right height to not be a manlet. FeelsGoodMan
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> @"Icemanfrost.5428" said:
> I wanted to pick a new race for toon. I forget the name there is a very short troll looking race. I worry that people will think I am not as important because I am not as tall as everyone else. I know it sounds silly. Honestly I'm afraid that I will not be considered equal because I am shorter. Is this normal or is this silly
This sounds like manlet talk
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The only source I can direct you to is the patch notes for 7/10 where they explicitly say "We've also made some adjustments to improve the viability of a revenant power build in PvE."
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Its intended. With Recent buff to Bolster Fortifications we have more synergy with Facet camping in PvE. But for pvp/wvw its still -5 otherwise you could roam around freely with perma prot/swiftness or in WvW Prot/Regen. But its not worth sacrificing pulsing fury/swiftness/might for Prot.
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The only 1v1s that are actually a struggle are vs condi mirage. No other match up compares in that regard. I haven't gotten luck with MMR considering I've been playing this class since it launched and I I've always placed between high plat 2 and Legend in all the seasons I participated in. But you can take that as you will.
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> @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > > > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > > > > Recently there have been a few complaints on Rev specifically Rev damage.
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> > > > > First, I would like to point out that rev still has the LOWEST power damage and LOWEST power burst of ALL classes in a PVE environment. Yet, with that being the case rev still has pvp specific damage and CD nerfs to even further lower this damage.
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> > > > > Second, there are very few Revs that are playing consistently at high skill rating. If you are going to call something out for being OP pertaining to Rev you might as well from now on just say “XXX out skilled me and I want him nerfed.”
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> > > > > As we all know rev has the MOST EXPLOITABLE weaknesses of all classes. It’s quite easy to win against rev just by playing a certain way or a certain spec.
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> > > > > So for the sake of keeping things short; maybe from now on don’t call out rev. Call out the specific rev that farmed you, and state why this specific person is OP. No need to cry against Rev *insert laughing emoji*.
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> > > > Firstly, I'm sure we'd all like objective proof of you actually outskilling top players.
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> > > > Secondly, where did you get these damage figures from?
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> > > PVE raid hero’s. Ask any of them. They will tell you rev power damage is the lowest by far.
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> > ...right but you are sayin that Rev has "pvp specific damage and CD nerfs to even further lower this damage." Which is the only relevant part of your statements since nobody cares about PvE damage. If you go to Vallun's balance thread, you'll see Bryvanent commenting on how certain things could be changed around to balance out Rev damage.
> > Rev is very vulnerable to condi but overperforms versus almost all direct-damage specs; ideally it could have more defense against condi but not be quite so slippery against direct damage specs.
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> Ahh yes Bryvanet. He is good rev but he is farm from the greatest. I'm going to be real with you and say he's **NOT** the sort of Rev Vallun has in mind when he is crying for nerfs in his thread.
Considering I've beaten and matched every single "top revenant" in the game. To name a few: Toker, Zollec, Helio, Lora, and Sin I'd love to see what you think is keeping me far from the greatest. And if you think Vallun isn't thinking of someone like me when he discusses revenants current burst and how strong it is I'd love to know whom.
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> @"Crinn.7864" said:
> > @"thebatman.6250" said:
> > Most of these revenant posts dealing with Sword 4 and whether o not its OP seem to be tackling on the symptoms and not the **root cause of the issue.**
> Could the fact that Sword 4 also applies a root be the root cause of the issue?
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Its a double edged sword with the root and Damage. If you hit 1 target you get all the damage and 1s root. If you hit 3 targets your damage is split 3 ways and you root for 3s. I personally would opt out of this switch and remove the cleave from this skill and give it a 1s immobo and sending the damage to one target.
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Most of these revenant posts dealing with Sword 4 and whether o not its OP seem to be tackling on the symptoms and not the root cause of the issue.
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You only really need 450 range to deal with warrior
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> @"Chungo.3169" said:
> > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > @"BeepBoopBop.5403" said:
> > > Lol revenant already getting called on for nerfs when it's barely coming back into relevance, that was fast. You know revenant has to trait fully glass (except condition clear trait in Invocation, every other trait choice is DPS) to get those numbers right?
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> > @"thebatman.6250" Bry do you play full glass? I'm pretty sure most revs play Marauder in sPvP but I could be wrong.
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> > Anyways Beep, Vallun is totally correct that rev has too much damage with 25 might stacks. I think tbh you're right that Sword 5 should be fixed so that it actually hits. However, Sword 4 does too much damage, Vallun is right about that. A balance patch can both nerf unnecessary damage and buff defensive stuff like what Vallun mentioned, it's not mutually exclusive.
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> I understand the point (and it is true, rev carries all the specs investing in dps, not sustenance, and was almost nerfed in each skill is shiro / glint) but they forget other professions as a rev I kill them several times in a row after playing 9000 games with the ... that do even more damage in one stroke from stealth lol and now that rev is not trash you want to leave it underground again, do you know that this rev damage is there because it has hardly enough support to keep alive? What do you think of f1 warrior? 10k insta cast without animation + perma stun, 13 ~ 16k thief from stealth, 10k gazelle, 10k guardian hammer, etc. Well, I hope you do not take into account post like this to balance.
Some of those bursts are really telegraphic and predictable. With Revenant its usually just Phase Traversal -> Shackling Wave. Now I think you're being a bit over the top with some of these examples. The only way you're landing a 10k Andrenaline skill on warrior is running full zerker + MH Axe. Also none of them are instant case and they all have telegraphic animations. 13k+ on thief is again, full zerker running either p/p or rifle DE and they can literally melt with a single Sw4.
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> @"JayAction.9056" said:
> You shouldn’t play rev in pvp unless your name is Lord Savage.
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> Try holosmith.
Whatever you say, farmbait :^)
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> @"Coolguy.8702" said:
> Best damage combo imo is shrio heal>Sword 3>glint>sword 2 and 4> facet of elements and glint elite. This destroys any class if they get hit by the whole thing. Rev rn gotta have the best single target damage for pvp if you know what your doing.
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> For healing after the glint heal the only options you got is staff 4 and shiro heal with sword 3. Just try to manage your dodges though since thats the only real sustain rev has
The best burst you can land is Enchant Daggers -> IO + Sw4 -> Sword 5. If someone eats the whole thing its basically a free kill.
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Here ya go https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl0XLHILc_e97nX215fAGaA
if you have any questions just msg me in game. IGN is Bryvanent
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Revenant OP Pls nerf me Anet OwO
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> @"ArthurDent.9538" said:
> > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > @"ArthurDent.9538" said:
> > > > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > > > @"ArthurDent.9538" said:
> > > > > > @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > > > > > > @"BeepBoopBop.5403" said:
> > > > > > > Lol revenant already getting called on for nerfs when it's barely coming back into relevance, that was fast. You know revenant has to trait fully glass (except condition clear trait in Invocation, every other trait choice is DPS) to get those numbers right?
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> > > > > > @"thebatman.6250" Bry do you play full glass? I'm pretty sure most revs play Marauder in sPvP but I could be wrong.
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> > > > > > Anyways Beep, Vallun is totally correct that rev has too much damage with 25 might stacks. I think tbh you're right that Sword 5 should be fixed so that it actually hits. However, Sword 4 does too much damage, Vallun is right about that. A balance patch can both nerf unnecessary damage and buff defensive stuff like what Vallun mentioned, it's not mutually exclusive.
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> > > > > The difference between standard power rev and absolute full glass power rev is 3 or 4 changes: marauder amulet instead of berserker, leadership rune instead of scholar, cleansing channel instead of forceful persistence, and assassin's annihilation is often used instead of swift termination or brutality. The next class that comes this close to running full glass is curses scourge and even that has about 6 trait swaps (some are mostly filler or trading damage for more corrupts) an amulet swap and typically 2 defensive utilities. Rev damage is only good because they invest more into it than the other classes.
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> > > > Yeah I know what a zerk amulet is. The reason I pinged Bry is because he plays rev and is decent. I don't need you to tell me how to spec into a zerk build I was wondering if Plat rev mains actually play it, which is another question.
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> > > I told you what 95% of platinum revs play, including my self.
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> > This zerk build you're talking about is [not even on metabattle](https://metabattle.com/wiki/Revenant "not even on metabattle") so I'm calling shenanigans. Maybe in unranked.
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> You missed my point, they pretty much all play marauder, but even with that they are much closer to full glass than any of the other common builds.
Yeah because the class was designed to be one the highest damage classes when it was first introduced. We are heavy armored assassins. That's about it.
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> @"Huskyboy.1053" said:
> > @"BeepBoopBop.5403" said:
> > Lol revenant already getting called on for nerfs when it's barely coming back into relevance, that was fast. You know revenant has to trait fully glass (except condition clear trait in Invocation, every other trait choice is DPS) to get those numbers right?
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> @"thebatman.6250" Bry do you play full glass? I'm pretty sure most revs play Marauder in sPvP but I could be wrong.
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> Anyways Beep, Vallun is totally correct that rev has too much damage with 25 might stacks. I think tbh you're right that Sword 5 should be fixed so that it actually hits. However, Sword 4 does too much damage, Vallun is right about that. A balance patch can both nerf unnecessary damage and buff defensive stuff like what Vallun mentioned, it's not mutually exclusive.
I do run marauder on rev but my rune/sigil are a little different than what most rev's run. It does give me more sustainability vs condi's so I don't get melted by the monkeys who play ez mode in pvp. Part of the rev's survivability is known when to dodge and not just dodge in general. Also utilizing Repositing Shadows more is mandatory for surviving at a revenant in 1v1's and team fights. If you're not learning how/when to dodge then it doesn't matter how strong you are. You will feed.
To address Vallun's proposed changes on Revenant:
The reason revenants can stack 25 might so easily is not specifically due to 2 traits. We have a lot of ways to generate might within our build and outside of it. You can stack 25 might alone easily with either incensed response OR Nefarious Momentum. You don't need both. The reason behind revenants strong spike potential is now only might access but Quickness access. To add on to that revenant also gets bonus boon duration passively from Herald GM Minor Trait. Stacked with Leadership runes well you're looking at 46% and as high as 80% with Natural Resonance buff from our F2 on herald. Boon Duration is grossly overlooked on revenant because we can easily increase it to extreme levels with almost 0 impact on our damage. In some scenarios quite the opposite happens. We become stronger with increased boon duration. If you nerf boon duration you'll see less upkeep of 25 might as well as less upkeep overall of Fury/Prot/Regen/Swiftness/Quickness. There is also the issue of certain runes/sigil combos that increase might duration and grant might. To the point where almost any class running a specific rune + sigil combo can get 20 stacks of might of course that would be suboptimal but its food for thought. If you want to balance out revenant here is something to consider:
- Nerf Damage on offhand(5% would be enough, 10% would be too much. At that point you might as well use Axe)
- Buff cleansing on staff (Remove 3 condi's instead of 2, decrease cast time to 1/2s instead of 3/4)
- Nerf boon duration given on leadership runes(as well as other runes that give high boon duration)
- Nerf concentration given by natural resonance to 250 instead of 500
- revert changes of Nefarious momentum(2 might for Assassin skill, 1 might for others)
- Nerf might gain on Incensed Response from 5 might for fury to 3 might for fury
- Remove fury boon from Deathstrike(I recommend changing it to put vulnerability on your target or give yourself might)
- remove fury from Reposting shadows to instead give swiftness
- Buff shield healing/provide some condi clear or conversion when used
These are some suggestions I would make to Revenant to stop them from being over the top as condi's are brought more in line and classes that can easily stack things like torment/confusion/poison/burning are toned down.
Edit: Just a quick note. Revenant could actually do without a buff to condi cleanse **_IF_** the dev's changed condi cleanse from being random cleanses to instead cleansing Intensity first. This honestly be enough to put revenants back into the meta game imo.
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> @"Trevor Boyer.6524" said:
> > @"Scherade.5041" said:
> > as a rev main, the last couple of months have had their ups and downs, but over all mostly painful. from being stolen to by a condi thief and dying to steal alone, being jumped on by condi mirage and just kinda dying, to being perma immobed by druids and being pew pewed (by p/p thieves as well) and not really being able to do anything about it. except them royally kitten up and rev just getting lucky and one shotting em, sword 4 ftw. i dont want any crazy buffs or anything tbh. i just want condi clear, and maybe a way to deal with an over abundance of pew pew. a humble request.
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> Herald is actually a hard counter to high ranged pew pew. Stay aggressive with teleports, use sword #3 when they burst and use https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crystal_Hibernation wisely. And remember that you can LoS and sword #3 through objects.
No one uses shield anymore on revenant. Its been kicked to the curb and doesn't have a place in pvp anymore and I hope you're not saying he can use Unrelenting Assault while LoS. LoS prevents UA from activating
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You'd have to pay me to use Reddit. Must've been someone else who mentioned it.
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already made a post addressing this bug and how to get around it:
https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/39905/facet-bug-in-pvp-temporary-fix#latest
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> @"Mbelch.9028" said:
> > @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > > @"guest.9472" said:
> > > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
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> > > > > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > > > > > @“mrauls.6519”
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> > > > > > > @"guest.9472" said:
> > > > > > > > @"mrauls.6519" said:
> > > > > > > > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
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> > > > > > > > > > > @"JayAction.9056" said:
> > > > > > > > > > > You need to make an updated table that includes over 100 power level. Tired of being left out
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> > > > > > > > > > Who are you?
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> > > > > > > > > > Jk. We'll make it one day
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> > > > > > > > > MRAULS and Saiyan best guards NA
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> > > > > > > > > Power levels 175+. Responsible for DH and burn guard nerfs respectively.
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> > > > > > > > LOL! I haven't seen our buddy Saiyan in a while
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> > > > > > > I've beaten both of you. Can't say I agree with any recognition you recieve
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> > > > > > 1. You have beat me in ranked one time brah lmfao. You get farmed all the time though. Stop flexing So much is annoying, lmfao.
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> > > > > > 2. It doesn’t take much to play 1500 range, stealth and reset over and over and over, and still lose or barely scrape with a win in a 1v1. Hence why you get **farmed** when more people enter the picture. You lose 1v1 to random soul beasts all the time dude. Relax bro.
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> > > > > > 3. You are a weak link in any scenario where there are teams filled with multiple people that are decent.
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> > > > > > New - Soulbeast; Power level: 35
> > > > > > Conquest: 5 ||||| Mechanics: 2
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> > > > > Nice memes but you're on youtube. You and no one else farms me lmao. You guys get beaten then try to gank me while I'm dueling so you can pretend that a screenshot of a 4v1 means you guys are skilled. In the end your attempts only enlighten my self-assured attitude. Both of you lost to me 1v1. No one has dueled me in FFA.
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> > > > > Sorry but going for 2v1s to kill me only proves whos better. Vallun said the same thing and when he finally dueled he couldnt win and lost by old rules of ring capture. You and anyone else making claims to sound cool on discord only boost my ego. Cant really take you seriously when you're tilted over a loss
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> > > > I’m on YouTube? Nice to know I have such an impact because I don’t post footage myself, so you must be on my jock posting clips of me. Dats cool.
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> > > > Brah you are the one that try’s to gank me in FFA arena lmfao.
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> > > > Brah you died to 1500 soul beats a few times, but isn’t that about where your rating stay at?
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> > > > I don’t even watch for you on the map in a match ima be real.
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> > > Ive played one ranked game with you and you lost pretty bad. Again decent memes but come up with more original lies. I dont lose to soulbeasts. As I said, the people I beat (like you) are forced to try and jump me for kills. In other words, you need help even damaging me. Not sure what you want to call that but as I said, Ive got plenty of footage beating you
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> > Oh boy this is comedy.
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> > So you do be on my jock lmfao.
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> > Dude I’ve seen you in ranked a good 5+ times. The only time you won you avoided me completely and you lost mid 1v1 to a 1500 random soulbeast brah.
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> > You got footage of beating me in FFA arena while I’m 1v3+ or something? Cool story bro.
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> > It’s a shame my better ranger friends do not play this game anymore. KingHarrow would farm you pretty nicely Soulbeast Vs Soulbeast.
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> Jay who is this "guest" guy who talks so much blustery bull?
Its shadow the jedi aka shadow the meme. Just look up videos of him getting dumpstered on youtube. Its quality memes.