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  1. > @"Diak Atoli.2085" said:

    > While I understand, and agree more options is never a bad thing, I don't believe Tyrian lore supports Druids being offensive magic users.

    >

    > Mechanically, it would better as a separate e-spec, as that would allow access to offensive weapon skills. As of LS4E2, ANet has a NPC equivalent they can easily draw on in the form of the Olmakhan.

     

    That's a great point and I am going to change my opinion and agree with you now. Maybe in the next expansion another Elite spec will come that makes a Ranger into a DPS caster class with scepter/focus or something. a "Warden" or something like that.

  2. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > > > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > > > > > > All I have gotten in this thread is that the OP is in an super extreme minority regarding this opinion that Druid's should have been DPSers.

    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > That is not what I said or meant. At all.

    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > I wanted them to have the OPTION of being more DPS focused rather than solely support/healing.

    > > > > >

    > > > > > Again it's a spec and nothing you've said up to this point has indicated that. Even the title of the thread says you wish they were DPS not healers.

    > > > >

    > > > > And at this point you are arguing just to argue and have the last word. *shrug*

    > > >

    > > > I guess that's one way to never admit to being wrong.

    > >

    > > It's my OPINION. I'm not on here to be 'right' like you are. It's not about right and wrong, i'm just voicing my OPINION.

    > >

    > > How is that such a difficult concept for you?

    >

    > And yet you keep attacking people for disagreeing with you, yeah not going to buy it, sorry. All you're doing is constantly changing the goalposts. Honestly I'm not sure why I'm even bothering at this point, it's already abundantly clear that nothing gets through to you.

     

    I haven't 'attacked' anyone. You call 'politely disagreeing' an attack?

     

    Me: *says ANYthing*

    You: You are wrong! You are closed minded for not dropping your opinion and adopting my opinion!

    Me: I'm just stating my opinion and supporting my position.

    You: OMG stop attacking people! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

    Me: Ok whatever.

    You: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! You're stubborn REEEEEEEE! *flails and screeches endlessly*

     

    Do you hear yourself? There is no goalpost! This is a discussion, not a debate, with some trophy in mind!!!! ! This is just a discussion about how I think Druids should have the option to be DPS and not solely heals.

     

    What do you mean "get through to me?" Is that your terminology for 'arguing someone down and making someone drop their stance and agree with you?' This isn't an argument or debate. Nobody has been attacked, except perhaps how you and others have directed towards me, for simply voicing my opinion. about druids. How dare I, right?

  3. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > > > > All I have gotten in this thread is that the OP is in an super extreme minority regarding this opinion that Druid's should have been DPSers.

    > > > >

    > > > > That is not what I said or meant. At all.

    > > > >

    > > > > I wanted them to have the OPTION of being more DPS focused rather than solely support/healing.

    > > >

    > > > Again it's a spec and nothing you've said up to this point has indicated that. Even the title of the thread says you wish they were DPS not healers.

    > >

    > > And at this point you are arguing just to argue and have the last word. *shrug*

    >

    > I guess that's one way to never admit to being wrong.

     

    It's my OPINION. I'm not on here to be 'right' like you are. It's not about right and wrong, i'm just voicing my OPINION.

     

    How is that such a difficult concept for you?

  4. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > > All I have gotten in this thread is that the OP is in an super extreme minority regarding this opinion that Druid's should have been DPSers.

    > >

    > > That is not what I said or meant. At all.

    > >

    > > I wanted them to have the OPTION of being more DPS focused rather than solely support/healing.

    >

    > Again it's a spec and nothing you've said up to this point has indicated that. Even the title of the thread says you wish they were DPS not healers.

     

    And at this point you are arguing just to argue and have the last word. *shrug*

  5. > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > All I have gotten in this thread is that the OP is in an super extreme minority regarding this opinion that Druid's should have been DPSers.

     

    That is not what I said or meant. At all.

     

    I wanted them to have the OPTION of being more DPS focused rather than solely support/healing.

  6. > @"Laila Lightness.8742" said:

    > Also druid is just a name to put idea on gw 2 druid its alot closer to dryad . But meaning and usage of names dont mean they should be same take my name laila for example not all who share my name look ore think like me. (This for op seem to locked on that all druids shall be same in all games. Druid was orignally a name for celtic shamans wich dont fit the general meaning of druids in most games ore this game)

     

    Excuse me?

     

    No, really........excuse me?!?!?!!?

     

    Your'e telling ME that I said druids should be 'locked' into the same theme in all games??? I'm sitting here saying Druids should have the OPTION to be DPS, not locked into support and that's somehow saying they should be locked into DPS? And others are here adamantly insisting that Druids should be SUPPORT healing classes, and _I_ am the one who's talking about how druids should be locked into a theme?? no. I'm not.

     

    Don't come for me. I've had enough of people on this thread. I don't mind people disagreeing. But personal insults, misrepresenting my arguments, telling me how "useless" this thread is, when it has sparked so much discussion is just asinine. But putting words into my mouth and dragging ME over hot coals and ignoring literally the exact same argument process from others who are just on the opposite end of the argument is ridiculous. Inexcusable.

     

    How dare you sit there and tell ME I want druids to be locked into a role when i DO NOT, and others have attempted to shout me down and do precisely what you wrongly accused me of doing.

     

     

  7. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > > > This might just be the least constructive thread in this forum.

    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > I'm honored that you helped contribute to it then.

    > > > > >

    > > > > > I've contributed as much as you have honestly, you're so caught up over a name to the point of obsession and can't seem to understand that almost nobody is agreeing with you and your 'dissenting opinion' will go nowhere. Elementalist already does all the stuff you want Druid to do and complaining about a name won't change that.

    > > > >

    > > > > This also sparked a discussion about what a Druid class is and what people expect from it.

    > > > >

    > > > > It's a forum. You know. Where discussions take place.

    > > > >

    > > > > But you coming here and stating things like "nobody agrees with you" simply because you don 't is false logic. I don't expect my 'dissenting opinion' to go anywhere. It's a forum where people politely exchange ideas. Are you a moderator who determines what can and cannot be posted on this forum?

    > > > >

    > > > > It's also both funny and ironic that you complain about a post not being productive while posting an unproductive comment adding to it. You both assume a moral and ethical high ground, while also wallowing around in the lowbrow gutter you condemn.

    > > > >

    > > > > Now are we done here? Or do you need the last word? I'll let you have it.

    > > >

    > > > This whole thread has almost solely been you trying to shout down everyone who has a different opinion or interpretation of "Druid" than you. The way it's been implemented is perfectly valid and serves a nigh indispensable role in the high level PvE meta of the game.

    > >

    > > Actually, no it hasn't been me shouting down anyone at all. It's called an adult discussion. i find it funny that you totally ignore that some people, such as yourself, HAVE been trying to 'shout down' me for not thinking a Druid should be a support class, much less traditionally.

    > >

    > > But I do hope you feel better.

    >

    > I said trying to, I didn't say you were doing any good at it. The concept seems to go right over your head though.

     

    Oh, you just have an axe to grind. Gotcha. I'll let you wallow in that snark and negativity.

  8. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > This might just be the least constructive thread in this forum.

    > > > >

    > > > > I'm honored that you helped contribute to it then.

    > > >

    > > > I've contributed as much as you have honestly, you're so caught up over a name to the point of obsession and can't seem to understand that almost nobody is agreeing with you and your 'dissenting opinion' will go nowhere. Elementalist already does all the stuff you want Druid to do and complaining about a name won't change that.

    > >

    > > This also sparked a discussion about what a Druid class is and what people expect from it.

    > >

    > > It's a forum. You know. Where discussions take place.

    > >

    > > But you coming here and stating things like "nobody agrees with you" simply because you don 't is false logic. I don't expect my 'dissenting opinion' to go anywhere. It's a forum where people politely exchange ideas. Are you a moderator who determines what can and cannot be posted on this forum?

    > >

    > > It's also both funny and ironic that you complain about a post not being productive while posting an unproductive comment adding to it. You both assume a moral and ethical high ground, while also wallowing around in the lowbrow gutter you condemn.

    > >

    > > Now are we done here? Or do you need the last word? I'll let you have it.

    >

    > This whole thread has almost solely been you trying to shout down everyone who has a different opinion or interpretation of "Druid" than you. The way it's been implemented is perfectly valid and serves a nigh indispensable role in the high level PvE meta of the game.

     

    Actually, no it hasn't been me shouting down anyone at all. It's called an adult discussion. i find it funny that you totally ignore that some people, such as yourself, HAVE been trying to 'shout down' me for not thinking a Druid should be a support class, much less traditionally.

     

    But I do hope you feel better.

  9. > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > This might just be the least constructive thread in this forum.

    > >

    > > I'm honored that you helped contribute to it then.

    >

    > I've contributed as much as you have honestly, you're so caught up over a name to the point of obsession and can't seem to understand that almost nobody is agreeing with you and your 'dissenting opinion' will go nowhere. Elementalist already does all the stuff you want Druid to do and complaining about a name won't change that.

     

    This also sparked a discussion about what a Druid class is and what people expect from it.

     

    It's a forum. You know. Where discussions take place.

     

    But you coming here and stating things like "nobody agrees with you" simply because you don 't is false logic. I don't expect my 'dissenting opinion' to go anywhere. It's a forum where people politely exchange ideas. Are you a moderator who determines what can and cannot be posted on this forum?

     

    It's also both funny and ironic that you complain about a post not being productive while posting an unproductive comment adding to it. You both assume a moral and ethical high ground, while also wallowing around in the lowbrow gutter you condemn.

     

    Now are we done here? Or do you need the last word? I'll let you have it.

  10. I'm trying to make Meteorlogicus. I am at the part where I need to combine Storm and the Gifts at the Mystic Forge for the final item. The only thing stopping me from doing this all is the Mystic Clovers and Gift of Battle.

     

    I want it to be easier to get these last items considering the journey I have taken, and I REALLY don't want to do any PVP whatsoever, but at the same time, I know that items like these should be difficult to achieve. It adds to the value and prestige.

     

     

  11. > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"mortrialus.3062" said:

    > > > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > > > Elementalist already fills the role of power nuker with nature magic I feel.

    > > > > > >

    > > > > > > Yes. That's precisely the point I made earlier in a post. Elementalist does "Druid" better than Druid does in GW2. It displeases me.

    > > > > >

    > > > > > Aside from Boomkins in WoW druids are almost never offensively oriented.

    > > > >

    > > > > Tell that to:

    > > > >

    > > > > * World of Warcraft

    > > > > * Titan Quest

    > > > > * Diablo II

    > > > > * EQ2

    > > > > * Grim Dawn

    > > > > * Baldur's Gate

    > > > > * Baldur's Gate II

    > > > > * Ultima series

    > > > > * Magic: the Gathering...

    > > > >

    > > > > I could go on......but you get my point. Sorry, but you aren't correct on that statement.

    > > > >

    > > >

    > > > Cool. Go play a Druid in those games. Problem solved.

    > >

    > > I already have. If you don't like what I say in this forum, go comment in another post. Problem solved.

    >

    > Cool. Play them again... Problem solved.

     

    Yes, try and silence a dissenting opinion. Good job.

  12. > @"thefantasticg.3984" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"mortrialus.3062" said:

    > > > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said:

    > > > > > Elementalist already fills the role of power nuker with nature magic I feel.

    > > > >

    > > > > Yes. That's precisely the point I made earlier in a post. Elementalist does "Druid" better than Druid does in GW2. It displeases me.

    > > >

    > > > Aside from Boomkins in WoW druids are almost never offensively oriented.

    > >

    > > Tell that to:

    > >

    > > * World of Warcraft

    > > * Titan Quest

    > > * Diablo II

    > > * EQ2

    > > * Grim Dawn

    > > * Baldur's Gate

    > > * Baldur's Gate II

    > > * Ultima series

    > > * Magic: the Gathering...

    > >

    > > I could go on......but you get my point. Sorry, but you aren't correct on that statement.

    > >

    >

    > Cool. Go play a Druid in those games. Problem solved.

     

    I already have. If you don't like what I say in this forum, go comment in another post. Problem solved.

  13. I am also having this same issue. I've waited for 5 hours at this spot to defeat the grawl commander and start the chain. It is not spawning and it isn't starting. I headed across the river and sure enough the agents were both dead. I revived them and they just stand around fighting grawl near the base of the Oouo head by the shoreline. This is the only thing I need to get from Meteorlogicus III to IV and It's absolutely killing me.

  14. > @"Durzlla.6295" said:

    > > @"Martimus.6027" said:

    > > > @"Durzlla.6295" said:

    > > > Druids have always been more support and utility focused in RPGs, just because you can name some games that have offensive oriented Druids doesn’t mean that the class as a whole isn’t support or utility focused. Hell, in Diablo the Druid themself doesn’t even have too much offense in the magical department most of its offense is summoning and shapeshifting which in the GW universe means Soulbeast, same with WoW.

    > > >

    > > > The only part about Druid in GW2 Anet in my opinion dropped the ball on was by going full on into the astral aspect, where in my opinion they should’ve gone with a duality thing and kept the astral celestial bodies thin in Avatar state, and then made the normal form glyphs and staff skills almost entirely plant/elemental magic based.

    > > >

    > > > If you want a master of using the elements for death and destruction you can play elementalist and just dress them as s Druid and call yourself a Druid, might I recommend the Tribal armor set?

    > > >

    > > > Or, you could always wait for rangers to get another magical elite spec that uses a scepter and a bunch of offensive magic, which judging by the group we have found in the latest Living World Episode makes me think it’s very likely to happen.

    > >

    > > You are absolutely wrong.

    > >

    > > I've played as a Druid ever since the class was first introduced in DND over 30 years ago, back when it started out that you had to be a Bard first and progress to being a Druid, and even still then, it wasn't a "support" class.

    > >

    > > "Just because you can name SOME games that have offensive oriented Druids" - What?? The overwhelming majority of the games that even have Druid class in it are offensive oriented! Here I'll illustrate how silly that statement is: " Just because you named the vast majority of games with Druids in it and they are overwhelmingly offensive ranged damage dealers doesn't mean they aren't support somehow." *confused stare*

    > >

    > > The Druid in D2 has TWO skill trees that are both offensive. Elemental and Shapeshifting. Summoning tree only has a couple supportive abilities - the spirits. And only one of the abilities heals - the corpse vine. Support indeed....

    > >

    > > I'll turn the tables on you: "Just because you think a druid should only be seen as support doesn't make it so."

    >

    > Clearly you didn’t play the first DnD then, because you had to have levels in Druid to become a bard... not the other way around, and as is the case now Druids had a vast majority of their spells for utility and support and a handful of offensive spells.

    >

    > And if you looked at what I said about D2 I said offense in the MAGICAL department, their primary offenses were shapeshifting and summoning, and the summoning provided some health and damage buffs for you, allies, and all your summons too. It’s also a game about murdering everything you encounter, so if a class in that game wasn’t offensive, it’d be... very weird...

    >

    > I’m not saying Druids do not have the capability to be offensive oriented, or that they can’t be, in saying that they’re NORMALLY a utility/support caster. I mean hell you can be a damage Druid in GW2, you just won’t deal as much damage as a true damage dealer because you have an entire traitline focused on support.

    >

    > I’d suggest you just wait for ranger to get another elite spec that’s a true offensive caster (it’s going to happen, it’s just a matter of time) or you do as I recommended and just roll an elementalist and pretend you’re a Druid.

    >

    > Also, after a quick look at EQ 1 and 2s website they’re sold as healers who buff, and also have a few offensive spells, not as a DPS as you implied earlier.

     

    Me having a fuzzy memory doesn't diminish my point in any way. It was 30+ years ago. Having said that, Are you honestly telling me that shapeshifting a few times per day into an animal which may or may not be very offensively oriented is more "DPS" per se than summoning tornadoes, hurricanes, lightning bolts from the sky, and earthquakes?

     

    Ok. If you think that, there's no dialogue we can come to an agreement on. The repertoire of DND Druidic offensive spells >>>>>>>>>> their shapeshifting abilities.

  15. > @"Durzlla.6295" said:

    > Druids have always been more support and utility focused in RPGs, just because you can name some games that have offensive oriented Druids doesn’t mean that the class as a whole isn’t support or utility focused. Hell, in Diablo the Druid themself doesn’t even have too much offense in the magical department most of its offense is summoning and shapeshifting which in the GW universe means Soulbeast, same with WoW.

    >

    > The only part about Druid in GW2 Anet in my opinion dropped the ball on was by going full on into the astral aspect, where in my opinion they should’ve gone with a duality thing and kept the astral celestial bodies thin in Avatar state, and then made the normal form glyphs and staff skills almost entirely plant/elemental magic based.

    >

    > If you want a master of using the elements for death and destruction you can play elementalist and just dress them as s Druid and call yourself a Druid, might I recommend the Tribal armor set?

    >

    > Or, you could always wait for rangers to get another magical elite spec that uses a scepter and a bunch of offensive magic, which judging by the group we have found in the latest Living World Episode makes me think it’s very likely to happen.

     

    You are absolutely wrong.

     

    I've played as a Druid ever since the class was first introduced in DND over 30 years ago, back when it started out that you had to be a Bard first and progress to being a Druid, and even still then, it wasn't a "support" class.

     

    "Just because you can name SOME games that have offensive oriented Druids" - What?? The overwhelming majority of the games that even have Druid class in it are offensive oriented! Here I'll illustrate how silly that statement is: " Just because you named the vast majority of games with Druids in it and they are overwhelmingly offensive ranged damage dealers doesn't mean they aren't support somehow." *confused stare*

     

    The Druid in D2 has TWO skill trees that are both offensive. Elemental and Shapeshifting. Summoning tree only has a couple supportive abilities - the spirits. And only one of the abilities heals - the corpse vine. Support indeed....

     

    I'll turn the tables on you: "Just because you think a druid should only be seen as support doesn't make it so."

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