Jski.6180

Most clears on ele can be conter by spam condis or auto attk conds. The best effects ele has for clears often take 2 or 4 condis at once and often they are on longer cd. Things like dimon skin and Ether renewal still are only cleaning one condi per "tick" most of the time the cover condi spam. A lot of classes are like this but a lot of classes have clears AND condi dmg -% or boons that counter condis effects.

This is what ele is realty missing condi dmg -% not clears. Weaver is the perfic places to add this in too having barrier give dmg -% for condis when you have a barrier up.

I was thinking staff all in power dmg for wvw on weaver but i am not so sure.

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Weaver as well as ele over all lacks any type of counter dmg mitigation. There needs to be more unblockable burst skills or all burst skills need to be unblockable.

Its all power dmg and its block-able that is weaver at the end of the day as well as ele so its very lacking. They realty needed to make the burst skills on weaver to be unblock-able or at least add in a way to make them unblock-able. As well as more condis.

> @"Cave Rock.4869" said:

> > @Jski.6180 said:

> > I wish i could for weaver but Firebrand looks more like a mages in its very old school number of spell cast.

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> Oh I felt exactly the same. I wish the Weaver very well on its launch with Path of Fire. Because I think the development teams have done an absolutely fantastic job creating the look and feel of the Weaver, and finally bringing it to fruition with persistence. Since from when it was a contender as a Heart of Thorns elite specialisations.

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> Props to Karl in particular and all the others who worked on it and will continue to iterated on in the future. I know personally that they really do care greatly about all of these professions outcomes and not just the one they primarily worked on for an expansion. So go easy on the devs everybody, because we must remember there is no such thing as favoritism from the devs like some people often state as fact, towards a certain profession.

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> Because over the years they have all work on a multitude of the professions/elites specialisations. Plus all the while working as a tight nit skills and balance team working on every profession with care and diligence. I have to commend them all on remaining humble in the face of scrutiny. Thanks to all the devs I spoke of in this post.

You say there no favoritism but when you look at what necro has and will get from PoF i am getting the feeling that ele id of the aoe job is gone. Even in HoT necro got one of the strongest sets and PoF seems like its going to be even stronger (why a necro can hit 10 targets build in where ele at best has one maybe 2 skills that hits 10 targets and its know for the aoe class is comply beyond me.) I see some major favoritism in that and what ele gets is the "well its the gen class so it cant do any thing well" all though all the classes in the game have the abitly to do every thing to but they are not gen classes. The runes are a great example of what Anet thinks of each class elite spec etc.. ele oddly has power condi dmg tempest is all combo boons and weaver is all combo and condi duration. What is Anet even trying to say / do with this class is comply beyond me i have a feeling they do not know too.

Firebrand here it reminds me of old school mages and spell casting with numbers of use not mana system or cd systems. Ele NEEDS something like this.

I wish i could for weaver but Firebrand looks more like a mages in its very old school number of spell cast.

Its a good set but you cant get it at the ascned level.

Cantrips not having stun brake dose not make any more sense now i must say. There a lot that leaving ele behind and realty in wvw only tempest staff support will be viable even weaver not going to be there.

Runes of the weaver i think is going to be better on d/d roaming ele/weaver/tempest.

The loss of overload going to cut back the dmg on weaver and ele in pve more then like i hope this ferocity makes up for it sadly power dmg is very lack luster these days. Wvw it may have a real use for staff and scpter ele and the very picked aimed sword/x.

> @Arimas.3492 said:

> Spellbreaker and Scourge are for sure going to put pressure in a lot of places where before there was none or minimal. Holosmith is going to bring some big damage as they have big cleaving skills with heavy damage (lots of 5 target cleave for really big damage, in place launch and extreme mobility).

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> Can't wait for the chaos!

There already a lot of boon strip in the game all spellbraker and scourge are going to do is add to it to the point of no boons making hard cc lines and rings the end all be all effects in the game. Its going to be like the first time they nerfed stab where it was being striped too fast but now its going to be more about being able to hit 10 - 20 targets with the strips.

Its not bad your super hard to kill i ran it in beta. I found that your dmg is lacking a bit.

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Was what i had on me at the time.

If you make it a ground target effect or your only going to get use out of it when its more then one player or you perdition when they are going to stealth. You cant target stealth players.

I missed the Evasive Arcana version too that would be nice to have.

But dose the power from might effect the ferocity? The builder is very messed up for its numbers for the new classes effect so a lot of its numbers need to be taken with a grain of salt. Best to look at the builder atm for pure "look and see what you could build from the line" then max min your numbers.

Wvw only split would be nice to see but it seems like it would be too much to have it comply balanced. Maybe a pvp / pve split is better where you have spvp and wvw balanced combined mostly spvp aimed and you have pve mostly raid aimed in its owned set up. There are simply some effects that do not work in raids and do not fit the balancing of raids in being so messes it up for wvw. Look at things like unblockable and croupstion to a lesser point boon strip and condi clears too all do next to nothing in raids but are every thing in wvw.

It comes down to this wvw / spvp get more use out of skill divisively and effects raids / pve do not and the balancing for these game types need to reflect this.

Sword/x for roaming and small man. Staff for full zerg fights i think you can push the dmg from a weaver with a staff to a viable amount.