TyPin.9860

> @"Sethanon Stormrage.6721" said:

> I understand all you people saying you dont struggle with condi on x spec when roaming and that's great but id like to point out that as is often stated... WvWvW is not balanced around solo or small scale combat.. it's supposed to be balanced around large scale. That's why the main point of this thread is focused on how op condis are in large scale fights. And why ideas to solve the issue for large scale combat is required.

I hear this claim a lot. Can you point to a statement of Anet, where they actually state that WvW is supposed to be balanced like that? I don't mean that in a condescending way, I really do not know of such a statement.

For me WvW was always an unbalanced Server vs Server kind of deal. I do not often roll with a zerg, but when I do, I do it on Reaper (did not really try out the scourge as of yet) and I don't feel that conditions are actually that much of an issue there. I can cleanse, my allies can cleanse and dealing with conditions isn't any harder than to deal with getting smacked in the face by a power melee train, when I am not really paying attention.

> @Swamurabi.7890 said:

> > @TyPin.9860 said:

> > > @Swamurabi.7890 said:

> > > > @Hana.8143 said:

> > > > >@Swamurabi.7890 said:

> > > > > Boons + Condis = LAG

> > > >

> > > > Me in 2015 : We need less conditions cause it's killing WvW.

> > > > Developer : Hold my beer, and also, NO.

> > > > Me in 2017 : We need less conditions cause WvW is dead.

> > >

> > > I wonder when the first group comp calls for cleanse 1, cleanse 2 and cleanse 3

> >

> > What would be wrong with that?

>

> When each 5 player squad is made up of 3 of the same class, that's a problem

That wouldn't be necessary only to have multiple AoE condi cleanses. On the top of my head are Mesmers, Guardians, Warriors and even Reapers with trooper rune to have AoE condie cleanses ...

> @Swamurabi.7890 said:

> > @Hana.8143 said:

> > >@Swamurabi.7890 said:

> > > Boons + Condis = LAG

> >

> > Me in 2015 : We need less conditions cause it's killing WvW.

> > Developer : Hold my beer, and also, NO.

> > Me in 2017 : We need less conditions cause WvW is dead.

>

> I wonder when the first group comp calls for cleanse 1, cleanse 2 and cleanse 3

What would be wrong with that?

> @kathy.8291 said:

> I love how 23 people voted to keep it the way it is. They are probably on a BLOb server that all they use is condi LOL

I voted to keep it. Because roaming with Chrono or Mirage (both power, both full zerker glass) I don't have so much problems with condies. Some builds are annoying, when they have high stealth uptime + high condi burst, but other than that I'll rather fight a condi build, than a GS + Axe/Shield Warrior...

This was awesome... Especially the ending :)

I was thinking of something similar for WvW roaming, but I am still "refining" my idea. However, the lack of clone generation could be worked around with going sword in your offhand. The block on # 4 is actually solid for making new clones and the swordsman also can hit quite hard. If you'd switch torch with sword, you could also utilize persistence of memory to get the swordsman's might stacks on shatter.

Currently I plan on something like [that](http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAR8anknBVLjlpBGMDMMjlTDrsE8cSAkBgFwyxfBGBzgA-jxCEwAd0M8UJDTlRbVC+4iAIVpAiHAg99HYp+DgjAQbdAkCwchWA-e "that") for WvW raoming.

Personally with Elusive Mind (a very strong trait imo) and Jaunt I feel like not needing to run inspiration. So I can go with a high risk high reward variant of game play with theoretically great mobility. I was contemplating to go double sword like Amadeus, but I wanna try the heavy reflecting route with Evasive Mirror (thematically fitting with Elusive Mind^^) and experiment with Pistol. The potential to shot... I mean shut down enemies with pistol and the corresponding cool down reduction on interrupts sounds nice to me. Sword Clone ambush interrupts, while not gaining trait bonuses, hopefully will affect the pistol cool downs too. If it doesn't work out I may go Sword offhand still.

This thread is just [si Lly](https://imgur.com/a/iBSLb "Si Lly")