Loesh.4697

> @"Finalfreefall.8247" said: > > @"Loesh.4697" said: > > > @"Finalfreefall.8247" said: > > > > @"Loesh.4697" said: > > > > > @"vier.1327" said: > > > > > > @"WindBlade.8749" said: > > > > > > > @"vier.1327" said: > > > > > > > Rytlock is the only masculine figure of the team, the one that does not talk about feeling and smash dragons, that is for what we came here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just remember the revenant transformation, it took us an expansion and a whole LS to obtained and explanation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Turlock rocks. > > > > > > > > > > > > so feeling are not masculine, man can't cry or express worrying about being afraid to loose your friends nooooo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a toxic comment. > > > > > > > > > > Just a point of view as valid as yours. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry I understand something different than you, I suppose that is toxic. > > > > > > > > Uh, why exactly is your point as valid as their point exactly? you aren't entitled to an equal level of respect for holding a point of view that is frankly a poison to society merely by virtue of it being your point of view. > > > > > > "You should have feelings" > > > > > > "But your views aren't valid, and you aren't entitled to equal respect. " > > > > > > Holy kitten. > > > > There are views that are authentically harmful to people or groups in society. The belief that masculinity cannot be emotional is, indeed, toxic. Just because I believe that it's important that people are allowed to have feelings doesn't mean that all ideologies must be taken seriously. To be kind to all people inherently means being cruel to others. > > So... being kind to some people then. And non-uplifting behavior to others. Honestly the fact that no one tried to reason with them and instead went "you're not valid" is shocking to me. At least a little logic. All the great things can be reasoned with logic. To exclude dissent instead of teaching is... religious. To exclude dissent instead of reason is human, for good and for bad, attributing it to faith is historical revisionism at it's finest. To argue that all great things can be reasoned with logic is true, but to say that you can reason all great things with logic to everyone is naive. That said, you're ignoring the context: If I had simply said you are not valid as an opener to the conversation that would be one thing. But they asserted that the opinion was valid and I rejected it on the grounds that no, not all opinions are valid especially when they are actively damaging. If they wanted to continue the conversation from there then sure, but I deny the premise by which his point was based upon as I would not listen to someone if they based their opinion on say, phrenology, and indeed actively argue that person is a danger to society.

> @"Finalfreefall.8247" said: > > @"Loesh.4697" said: > > > @"vier.1327" said: > > > > @"WindBlade.8749" said: > > > > > @"vier.1327" said: > > > > > Rytlock is the only masculine figure of the team, the one that does not talk about feeling and smash dragons, that is for what we came here. > > > > > > > > > > Just remember the revenant transformation, it took us an expansion and a whole LS to obtained and explanation. > > > > > > > > > > Turlock rocks. > > > > > > > > so feeling are not masculine, man can't cry or express worrying about being afraid to loose your friends nooooo.. > > > > > > > > What a toxic comment. > > > > > > Just a point of view as valid as yours. > > > > > > I am sorry I understand something different than you, I suppose that is toxic. > > > > Uh, why exactly is your point as valid as their point exactly? you aren't entitled to an equal level of respect for holding a point of view that is frankly a poison to society merely by virtue of it being your point of view. > > "You should have feelings" > > "But your views aren't valid, and you aren't entitled to equal respect. " > > Holy kitten. There are views that are authentically harmful to people or groups in society. The belief that masculinity cannot be emotional is, indeed, toxic. Just because I believe that it's important that people are allowed to have feelings doesn't mean that all ideologies must be taken seriously. To be kind to all people inherently means being cruel to others.