Eluding Nullification needs serious rework

[Aury.1367]

Incase if people wonder about the support trait from Salvation Traitline:

 

**Eluding Nullification**

Dodge rolling removes a condition from nearby allies

Has a 10s CD.

By comparing this to the trait Warrior has on dodge (nice damage on dodge) and Thief on dodge (Vault or Lotus) which are all strong dodge traits, and also the Guardian heal on dodge. Those all have no Cooldowns.

**Why does Revenant have a 10 second cooldown here? In PvE it wouldnt be OP anyway, and in PvP/WvW it would definetly help against the condi meta, the removal of the CD would be fair**

[Esplen.3940]

Your equivalent is Retaliatory Evasion, although that's a pretty terrible trait, too. It'd be better if it was a minor, but still not necessarily good.

[Zenith.7301]

No, the equivalent would be daredevil's which has no cd on condi removal.

[Esplen.3940]

Ah yes, comparing a Major Master on a core line with a Major Grandmaster on an elite spec focused on endurance/improved dodges. My apologies. I did not see that they were on the same playing field.

[Aury.1367]

Dont forget that thief also has "Uncatchable" without any CD which is on core line.

 

10 seconds cooldown is just WAY too much. Revenant is already lacking fluidity in gameplay and condi cleanse. Why not just remove it.

[messiah.1908]

more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1.

[Aury.1367]

> @messiah.1908 said:

> more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1.

 

Yes ofc, and with 2 dodges you would remove 2 condis. But you would have to go Salvation traitline for that!

[messiah.1908]

> @Aury.1367 said:

> > @messiah.1908 said:

> > more easy is to have 2 condi cleanse instead of 1.

>

> Yes ofc, and with 2 dodges you would remove 2 condis. But you would have to go Salvation traitline for that!

 

i meant instead 1 dodge remove 1 condition it should change to remove 2 conditions. this way 10 sec cd is fine.

[Zenith.7301]

> @Esplen.3940 said:

> Ah yes, comparing a Major Master on a core line with a Major Grandmaster on an elite spec focused on endurance/improved dodges. My apologies. I did not see that they were on the same playing field.

 

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Escapist%27s_Absolution

 

Not a major grandmaster. Just your average master trait.

 

And core and elite is a meaningless distinction if we are to take at face value that elite specs are meant to be sidegrades to the class, not flat out superior traitlines.

[Taobella.6597]

to be on pair with thief dodge it should be a 5 second CD.