NotASmurf.1725 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @Chaith.8256 said: > All other 1v1 builds are 2nd rate by at least a small margin, tanky Inspiration Mirage is close, due to beating everything except spellbreaker, Tanky inspiration Mirage? Oo what are you NA folks smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuyuske.7182 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 There will never be a balance patch, although they'll pretend sometime next month, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @NotASmurf.1725 said: > > @Chaith.8256 said: > > All other 1v1 builds are 2nd rate by at least a small margin, tanky Inspiration Mirage is close, due to beating everything except spellbreaker, > > Tanky inspiration Mirage? Oo what are you NA folks smoking? > Condi mirage with illusions & Inspiration instead of the Misha build as it gets called.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaith.8256 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @Kicast.1459 said: > > @Chaith.8256 said: > > Balance perception is worse than balance at this point in time in PvP. If you just solo or duo, you don't need to worry, any class, even power Revenant (arguably hardest) is viable when you're good enough at it. > > > > Now when you get into 5 man comps, the balance becomes a little bit messed up. > > > > *- The biggest problem is how Spellbreakers are the go-to 1v1'r because they simultaneously have the best matchups and the best 1vX (by FAR) making them a clear auto-lock for side noder. All other 1v1 builds are 2nd rate by at least a small margin, tanky Inspiration Mirage is close, due to beating everything except spellbreaker, having portal, and having best 1vX after spellbreaker. Playing 3rd rate builds for a 1v1 role (but still good) are: Sage's Weaver, Celestial Holosmith, Dragonhunter, Druid, Scrapper. > > *- Scourge is an auto-lock because nothing competes with the amount of boon convert and AoE condition pressure. It would be awesome if Mallyx Revenant were to have it's teamfight capabilities improved to the threat that Scourge is, and relied more on receiving team support.. just to not give a monopoly on the role. > > *- Firebrand at the moment is an auto-lock over the Tempest because it's just tuned higher in healing & condition removal, and gives the teamfight carries a huge amount of stability. > > *- Thief is pretty well an auto-lock for spiking Scourges & Firebrands, mobility, and stealth for teamfight openers. > > *- The 5th slot is pretty open at the moment, popular last-picks are Chronomancer, Marauder Holosmith. Anything that can teamfight well or bring lots of utility as with Chronomancer. > > > > My hopes for the balance patch are: > > *- Nerfs to Spellbreaker 1vX potential, > > *- Nerfs to Firebrand support, > > *- Nerfs to Scourge boon convert, > > *- Shaves to condi mirage, > > *- Small buffs to the bad and unused weapons/utilities/traits on: Soulbeast, Weaver, Holosmith, Scrapper, > > *- Small buffs to Power Rev personal survivability > > *- Buffs to Mallyx Revenant's boon rip & teamfight pressure, > > *- Big buffs to Renegade, although I suspect it's probably a lost cause with that absolute dumpster fire that is Kalla's utility kit. > > > > rev spotted :-) > > Not even.. Holosmith main but just honest about how bad a deal Rev has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ara.4569 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I think 2025 is the closest answer given so far. Now if the question was "When is lul balance ?" the answer would probably be "in a week or 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @kKagari.6804 said: > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. That will render it nearly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laken.4056 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Can't wait for weaver to be meta :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish.8627 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @Chaith.8256 said: > > > > > > Not even.. Holosmith main but just honest about how bad a deal Rev has While I also a holo main, agree about Rev, I disagree about spellbreaker, not just because I don't find them an issue 1v1 but because overall I don't see them as an issue after the damage was tuned to FC. If there is continued complaining for them they will get buried and there goes a decent prof that has been suffering long enough. No, bring the weaker professions in line. Mesmer and Thief have had it good long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @otto.5684 said: > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > That will render it nearly useless. > @otto.5684 said: > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > That will render it nearly useless. > @otto.5684 said: > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > That will render it nearly useless. Err i guess all those classes without free critical chance are useless too if 693 free precision is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @kKagari.6804 said: > > @otto.5684 said: > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > > @otto.5684 said: > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > > @otto.5684 said: > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > Err i guess all those classes without free critical chance are useless too if 693 free precision is bad. Thinking about it, you can use it with Marauder and get 100% critic. You will lose though both power and ferocity for not using Valkyrie (and a bit of health). Core guardian is decent, but not that strong. If we starting chipping into it, DH will be the way to go instead in every possible scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 > @otto.5684 said: > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > @otto.5684 said: > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > > > > @otto.5684 said: > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > > > > @otto.5684 said: > > > > @kKagari.6804 said: > > > > I'm predicting a nerf to Righteous Instincts, from 50% to 33%. > > > > > > That will render it nearly useless. > > > > Err i guess all those classes without free critical chance are useless too if 693 free precision is bad. > > Thinking about it, you can use it with Marauder and get 100% critic. You will lose though both power and ferocity for not using Valkyrie (and a bit of health). > > Core guardian is decent, but not that strong. If we starting chipping into it, DH will be the way to go instead in every possible scenario. I love Righteous Instincts mind you, but the trait itself is way too good. 1050 precision and an easy 6 stack might up time for having retaliation? I'm not sure 'it won't work on valkyrie amulet anymore' is a valid response to not balancing it, there were essentially no drawbacks in the build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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