Inoki.6048 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Now should I Thumbs This Up, or mark as Helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus.4315 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @ReaverKane.7598 said: > > @kharmin.7683 said: > > > @YoukiNeko.6047 said: > > > Yeah same, both me and my GF both the ultimate and have the previous ultimate editions. > > > But the RNG mount skins are really pushing us in the direction of leaving the game for good. > > > > Nothing personal, but I wonder at such a strong reaction to something that isn't required to play the game. > > If you'd read my post, you'd have seen it's not the mounts... It's that there's a systematic encroachment of "gambling" mechanics in the game. > I mean they could have slowly released the mounts 5 at a time over the next 6 weeks for 400 gems each, and people would be buying them, especially if they stacked the "aura" mounts to the end of the release plan. Now a lot of people (me included) won't touch them at all, and a lot of people (me included) are less inclined to buy gems, or even play the game. > > Also it's not just the RMG but also the price on that Forged Hound thing... 2000 gems? That's more expensive than the WHOLE expansion, not to mention as expensive as the previous 5 pack. > They could have easily learned from games like LoL and have tiered skins 400 for "common" skins (The ones without particle effects), 800 for "elite" sins (the particle effect ones), and 1200 for Legendary skins (Like the hound). But 2000 Gems? > > They were greedy with the mounts. And yes, as a person that bought Ultimate, having them release 30 mounts so soon after release tells me that the whole "not sure about mount skins yet" talk that was going on at release was kitten and an excuse not to do what they did with HoT and give a special skin for buyers. > Yeah your right m8, this is bad practice and I couldn't word it better myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serinetempest.9027 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Im about ready to stage a in game sit in like we did for SAB . maybe they will hear us then. Who wants to join ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kas.3509 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I am just disappointed that 90% os these skins are ugly af and are just cheap recolours of basic models. why would you sell something like that as a skin? If they made beautiful skins like they sometimes did with gliders... Gliders can be so different! Dragon wings, butterfly wings, ravens, ghosts, golems, meteors... So many cool stuff. Yet we got 30 recolours which is sad (and maybe 2 new jackal models that are really different skins)... I hate it when they make recolours and add 1 tiny detail and call it a "skin". It's not a skin. It's a new dye :disappointed: ... Is that why our basic mounts have NO real dye channels? So you can sell them? :disappointed: And theyre also rng? Really? I will never gamble because my luck is shit. Alsp what's up with these prices? First 2000 gems for 5 mount "skins" (reskins really"). Now 2000 gems for one skin and 400 each on rng reskins? What is going on? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadramar.8156 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @Preyar.6783 said: > Don't take the vocal minority as a majority, ever. Right now that poll is full of people who's on a rampage about lootboxes and don't understand that Anet have done them a favor with this unique system. So unmitigated greed is a "favor" now. How lovely. An actual "favor" would be adding skins that can actually be earned by _playing the game_, preferably by doing something related to the skin in question, which would have the added benefit of actually adding some meaning to the things and tying them into the world. Another obvious way to show "favor" woud be to put them in birthday presents. If we move beyond "favor" to "ethical business practice", the obvious decision would be to make them directly purchasable, like glider skins and outfits. Also add some to the expensive PoF editions, like HoT with its glider skin. There is nothing even remotely "favorable" about gambling, ever. It's specifically designed to be exploitative, and people need to stop making excuses for this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieDaWombat.6209 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @DakotaCoty.5721 said: > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/246938 > > I already made a thread here, please don't spam the forums with countless threads - it'll make our cause harder to be recognised if we act like apes. While i get where you're coming from with this, Anet tends to listen more when they are forced to look at multiple threads they are then forced to merge because then they can't feign somehow missing it on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xarallei.4279 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I would be fine with the mount skins in the gem store....IF they weren't RNG based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azizul.8469 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 What changed you Anet? Desire for more moneh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @PookieDaWombat.6209 said: > > @DakotaCoty.5721 said: > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/246938 > > > > I already made a thread here, please don't spam the forums with countless threads - it'll make our cause harder to be recognised if we act like apes. > > While i get where you're coming from with this, Anet tends to listen more when they are forced to look at multiple threads they are then forced to merge because then they can't feign somehow missing it on the forums. That and his post made it seem like mounts were the first iteration of gambling in GW2, i wanted to point out the escalation. Because that's the worrisome part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serinetempest.9027 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @Inoki.6048 said: > Now should I Thumbs This Up, or mark as Helpful. if you agree do both I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > @Squee.7829 said: > > Is everyone just mad that they're being so blatant about it? > > People are not mad about the skins being premium content, no. > > People are mad because they were implemented as a form of gambling. > > Had you been able to pay 400 Gems for each skin - knowing full well which skin you are getting - it would be business as usual. Yeah, that. I'd seriously consider buying 2k gems for a new skin of my choice for all five mounts, but screw this RNG garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iason Evan.3806 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I want to be as diplomatic as possible, but also get my point across as clearly and concisely as possible how I feel about the RNG Mount Skins. They suck. The skins are rad. The RNG is the part that is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard.4791 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I thought this was industry standard. Lootboxes and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero DarkSlayer.9206 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Anet, I've been playing your game for nearly four years now. I've dumped hundreds of dollars into the gemstore, and been happy to do so. But I am **NOT** about to spend 2000 gems on a single mount skin, and the RNG based mount skin system is coming _dangerously_ close to the lootbox plague the likes of EA, WarnerBros and Activision are trying to spread. Sincerely, get over yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayledras.1604 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I've been in conversations a few times lately with my guildies and friends about the lootbox garbage Activision and EA have been getting up to lately. Never thought for a moment it would come to GW2...and I have never been more disappointed with Anet. They won't get my money for these...and they could have got plenty if it wasn't random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurion.4086 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I got a bad feeling about this during the first PoF demo weekend, when I stepped in the Oasis and found the Casino and all the gambling stuff. This new ANet's system is not going to work with me. I will happily support them financially, as I have done time and time again, but only when I know what *exactly* I will be buying with my money. Not a cent before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natto.5819 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 We are all paying players. I think we're entitled to good items because we've paid money into this game. We should get mount skins for free , but if Anet is going to step into Asian MMO luck of the draw content, they should just go full throttle. Bring out 2,000 Gem swords with x2 damage, or 400 Gem tickets that give a 0.5% chance at x4 damage weapons. Just like peeling off a bandaid, do it fast or it'll hurt. When I was an addict, I was forced to go cold turkey or I might not be alive today. If Anet does this RNG content too slowly, the players will be feeling the pain longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @"Omar Aschi Popp.7496" said: > You guys are talking about a group of people who tried to sneak in privateer weapons and then was like "ohjhh, oh no we're not doing it like this, this is a one time thing to show you something special!". > > Until I see internal memos detailing that in writing before they released it, I will not believe it was anything but backpedaling and saving face after being caught. > > Are you guys legitimate like unawares that this is standard procedure? Don't be naiive. > > Also Anet has done nothing wrong here. Truly we are to blame for showing them, by the numbers, that we love gambling. > > STOP BLAMING ANET Please tell me about the privateer weapons as I don't even know what those are, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshow.1809 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 > @DakotaCoty.5721 said: > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/14443/randomised-gem-store-skins-this-is-the-line/p1 > > Post your frustrations here, there's no point making 30 threads about the same reason. Il post there, but I disagree. I think the more threads we have the better. But I go something for you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaCoty.5721 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 It's been 5 years and ArenaNet have never added any type of P2W or bullshit to this degree - I hope they will amend this lootbox issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loboling.5293 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 There was only enough time in the 2 years they worked on the expansion to make 5 mount skins. Lucky for us they were able to make 36 new ones within 2 months. Want them? Pay an extra 170$. (120$ for mount set, 30 new skins, and 25$ for 5 skins, and 25$ for 1 skin) Let's also realize that mount skins are even easier than outfits to make for the devs. Expansion costs 30$ and you get 5, so I guess it's a good deal....\(^_^)/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshow.1809 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Here are some Contact info you should put in your OP Arenanet HQ 425.462.9444 US Number NCSOFT HQ +82-2-2186-3300 http://us.ncsoft.com/en/contact-us/ Here you can find all the numbers and email for all there offices We have lost enough Games to the new Lootbox Trend, I don't want to loose GW as well. Call em and voice your concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone.3807 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Whales are going to whale. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I think we all agree that some amazing mount skins have been added to Guild Wars 2. But to many the way to obtain them has been disappointing. However, as I already posted on one of the mount discussion threads: I think there may be just a simple solution for it. **Just make the skins tradable.** This will solve everything. Then players can and will still gamble with gems all they want, and sell the skins they don't need for gold. All other players can get the new mount skins from the trading post using gold against current market prices. (Supply/demand) Popular mount skins will likely be expensive, less popular ones more affordable. Players who want to cherrypick mount skins for gems, can then just exchange gems for gold and buy the mounts from TP. And ANet gets taxes on all currency exchanges and revenue with the gem sales. Everyone happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suinz.5968 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 This practice is honestly making me consider quitting gaming as a whole. They are literally having their customers gamble without gambling laws applying to their systems. I can't believe I've spent hundreds of dollars on this digital garbage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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