Zoe.8310 Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 > @"Chickenooble.5014" said: > For you guys thinking the Astralarium stairs are acceptable... > >  > > [unsized Image for higher detail of eyes bleeding.](https://i.imgur.com/zjL2xwW.jpg "Unsized Image for higher detail of eyes bleeding.") hahaha... omg... thank for making this image, that is AMAZING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseron.8613 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think these are the stairs panekomo.7146 is refering to in this (https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/34360/blender-tutorial-vabbi-stairs). The troubling thing is that in some maps they apparently know how to do stairs, but for whatever reason they chose to do it his way with the Astralarium. I am still trying to figure if it is intended (it could be), and what is the reason behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noa.7490 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Those stairs remind me of my early, wonky experiments at making 3D shapes with the Unreal editor in 1998. In any case, this is not the kind of quality I expect from a company like Anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanLightheart.9168 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Maybe you should buy a better graphic card? You judge the work with your lowest setting on your wind and hamster driven computing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseron.8613 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I followed the advice and... It worked !  [imgur](https://i.imgur.com/eMQCiKt.jpg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I thought it was sort of funny that people actually could get up in arms about some stairs. First world problems and all that. But then I saw the screenshots and I'm a little lost for words. I guess someone's developer tools don't have a clone with offset feature... Hey ANet I could code you one if you're so hard up that you couldn't spare a lowly tools dev whilst everyone works on remonetizing gathering tools :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scherazade.2891 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I for one thank the Devs, and welcome our new stair overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 They tried using the Decorator system to place the stairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yseron.8613 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 A 15 mins test. I did not use a script for procedural generation but instead I invented a trick on the fly that consist in subdividing a plane so that you got twice as many edges than the number of steps needed, then you select 1 edge every 2 edges, you translate the entire selection and all the steps are instantly created. I dont have the game camera settings so it's really a rough approximation. For use in a video game you would just have to reduce the ramps subdivisions in the modifiers stack (or increase it if you got the Zehtuka 9000 graphic card).  [imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Jta1kkv.jpg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"Yseron.8613" said: > A 15 mins test. I did not use a script for procedural generation but instead I invented a trick on the fly that consist in subdividing a plane so that you got twice as many edges than the number of steps needed, then you select 1 edge every 2 edges, you translate the entire selection and all the steps are instantly created. I dont have the game camera settings so it's really a rough approximation. For use in a video game you would just have to reduce the ramps subdivisions in the modifiers stack (or increase it if you got the Zehtuka 9000 graphic card). >  > [imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Jta1kkv.jpg) I'd poke fun at your presumption that a gamer could do a better job than the developer, but you actually clearly did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > @"Yseron.8613" said: > > A 15 mins test. I did not use a script for procedural generation but instead I invented a trick on the fly that consist in subdividing a plane so that you got twice as many edges than the number of steps needed, then you select 1 edge every 2 edges, you translate the entire selection and all the steps are instantly created. I dont have the game camera settings so it's really a rough approximation. For use in a video game you would just have to reduce the ramps subdivisions in the modifiers stack (or increase it if you got the Zehtuka 9000 graphic card). > > > > > > I'd poke fun at your presumption that a gamer could do a better job than the developer, but you actually clearly did... The funny thing is that the stairs in the Library they added in HoT are _gorgeous_! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. No. No it does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. > > No. No it does not. Why not? The game file size is tiny compared to modern games while having a massive game world. Just shows how low quality textures and models are. They should definitely offer better quality settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. > > > > No. No it does not. > > Why not? The game file size is tiny compared to modern games while having a massive game world. Just shows how low quality textures and models are. They should definitely offer better quality settings. It shows that they don't have a bazillion texture maps for each material, sure. It doesn't mean that the textures or other graphical assets are in any way low quality. Upscaling all of that would be a huge undertaking, not to mention that the average gw2 player's rig might not even support it. If it were going to happen, I imagine it would be done for a new expansion, but not for the old world. In the mean time, there are third party tools like reshade that let you throw in all of the vomit inducing bloom and SSAO you like, which bring the game fairly close to a AAA title without the additional 100gb download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. > > > > > > No. No it does not. > > > > Why not? The game file size is tiny compared to modern games while having a massive game world. Just shows how low quality textures and models are. They should definitely offer better quality settings. > > It shows that they don't have a bazillion texture maps for each material, sure. It doesn't mean that the textures or other graphical assets are in any way low quality. Upscaling all of that would be a huge undertaking, not to mention that the average gw2 player's rig might not even support it. If it were going to happen, I imagine it would be done for a new expansion, but not for the old world. In the mean time, there are third party tools like reshade that let you throw in all of the vomit inducing bloom and SSAO you like, which bring the game fairly close to a AAA title without the additional 100gb download. This screenshot was made just now at a non selected place I happened to be by chance. Maximum settings (1440p with supersampling) of course. If this is in no way low quality I do not want to see what low quality is for you. >! Make sure to resize it to its full size >!  It just looks plain terrible. Granted the new maps (HoT and later) look a bit better, but a trained eye still sees all the sacrifices Anet made. I tried various Reshade presets. They all made the game look even worse lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. > > > > > > > > No. No it does not. > > > > > > Why not? The game file size is tiny compared to modern games while having a massive game world. Just shows how low quality textures and models are. They should definitely offer better quality settings. > > > > It shows that they don't have a bazillion texture maps for each material, sure. It doesn't mean that the textures or other graphical assets are in any way low quality. Upscaling all of that would be a huge undertaking, not to mention that the average gw2 player's rig might not even support it. If it were going to happen, I imagine it would be done for a new expansion, but not for the old world. In the mean time, there are third party tools like reshade that let you throw in all of the vomit inducing bloom and SSAO you like, which bring the game fairly close to a AAA title without the additional 100gb download. > > This screenshot was made just now at a non selected place I happened to be by chance. Maximum settings (1440p with supersampling) of course. If this is in no way low quality I do not want to see what low quality is for you. > >! Make sure to resize it to its full size > >!  > It just looks plain terrible. Granted the new maps (HoT and later) look a bit better, but a trained eye still sees all the sacrifices Anet made. > > I tried various Reshade presets. They all made the game look even worse lol Hahah well OK, yeah, that isn't great. Actually in the beta those building textures made me puke. Also the trees that looked like tall stalks with some weird multicoloured water painting texture on them outside Divinity's Reach... Ouch. But *in general* it's a good looking game. As you said, the expacs are of a higher quality definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe.8310 Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > The stairs are terrible, but so are all the low res textures in this game. Sometimes they just resize a small texture for something bigger and then it looks even worse. This game needs a 50 GB ultra HD texture pack. A texture pass would be awesome. Given that the game is mostly CPU bound, let us put our modern GPUs to work with things like higher textures! My 1080 Ti is sitting around bored waiting for the CPU to finish up calculating stuff, lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Textures are almost exclusively limited by the VRAM of your GPU. 1080ti has 11GB, but even a 512MB card from 10 years ago can play on highest texture quality with almost no fps loss. That is how bad the textures are in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruadan.9301 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Yeah. I noticed this too, and I wish they had found a better way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlippyCheeze.5483 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 > @"Chickenooble.5014" said: > > @"DarcShriek.5829" said: > > > @"Chickenooble.5014" said: > > > For you guys thinking the Astralarium stairs are acceptable... > > > > > >  > > > > > > [unsized Image for higher detail of eyes bleeding.](https://i.imgur.com/zjL2xwW.jpg "Unsized Image for higher detail of eyes bleeding.") > > > > If you're going to criticize someone's work, please use proper spelling. > Get bent. > I think you mean "ged bended u hethern", right? ;) (I agree, the spelling complaint is daft, and I think your image post was awesome.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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