Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 > @"arielwind.8921" said: > This is one of the reason why i don't want to play medium armor classes. See FF14 outfits. I dislike Square Enix games but at least outfits are decent. in FFXI-2, anyone can use any armour as long as they're not a town-job though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilson.9865 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Medium chest piece armor is the ugliest armor in the game. It covers legs and butts of our characters. With light armor i can switch between shaman guy, police officer guy, King guy, sailor moon, etc etc etc, but medium armor gives me choice of trench coat thug or trench coat trader or trench coat gunslinger. It DOESN'T MATTER what legs piece i pick, 80% of leggings will be covered by trench coat. Even legendary armor is the big shiny, animated trench coat!!! Light and heavy armor alows us create stunning appearance of the character. These two has freedom to choose. But in comparison with them medium armor give us one tool to choose from. Light armor has nice chests, but 3 pants, meduim armor has lots of pants, but few non trench coat chest peice, heavy armor is King. Please, Anet add non trench coat meduim armor in your next +3 updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 > @"Nilson.9865" said: > Medium chest piece armor is the ugliest armor in the game. It covers legs and butts of our characters. With light armor i can switch between shaman guy, police officer guy, King guy, sailor moon, etc etc etc, but medium armor gives me choice of trench coat thug or trench coat trader or trench coat gunslinger. It DOESN'T MATTER what legs piece i pick, 80% of leggings will be covered by trench coat. Even legendary armor is the big shiny, animated trench coat!!! > Light and heavy armor alows us create stunning appearance of the character. These two has freedom to choose. But in comparison with them medium armor give us one tool to choose from. Light armor has nice chests, but 3 pants, meduim armor has lots of pants, but few non trench coat chest peice, heavy armor is King. > Please, Anet add non trench coat meduim armor in your next +3 updates. I say the problem is Mediums have what Light wants and Lights have what Mediums want. Mediums have pants. Lights have Shirts/Tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladezephyr.5714 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Alatar.7364" said: > I am starting to feel like I am the only one who likes most of the Medium armor and always have a hard time deciding what to wear. > Did you try some of the PoF ones? Also Strider is pretty nice, but I understand it's Gemstore item. As I said, I previewed ALL medium armor sets, from the bank wardrobe tab. It's not that none of it looks good, per se... It's that almost all of it is a particular style (i.e. pirate/trench coat) which works fine conceptually with toons that have a swashbuckling theme. It really does not work at all with toons that are more the prototypical fantasy rogue, which I'm guessing is what the majority of players who main a thief are looking for, nor for rangers. As a concept, you think of those classes as a nimble, stealthy, fast-attacking class that specializes in precise (i.e. critical) strikes--the thief more with melee weapons, the ranger with a bow. You're not going to be effective at that kind of combat style wearing a 10-pound heavy leather trench coat--it's too heavy and too restrictive. It just makes no sense. For engineers I think the case is more arguable, as they theoretically need someplace to put all those gadgets, but even still it would be good to have more options. [And yes, I am aware this is a video game, and suspension of disbelief comes with the territory; but it's an RPG, and a certain amount of realism is expected as well--suspension of disbelief only goes so far before your eyes start rolling...] My medium-armor-classed toons wear either sneakthief or assassin's because that's really the only option that both makes sense and looks good. They look great, though on females they show too much skin (which I'm not opposed to, it just doesn't fit the concept of my characters), and there is really just not any other non-trenchcoat option that looks good... unless you want to pay money for them. And even then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladezephyr.5714 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Namless.4028" said: > There are some medium armor sets that dont have coats, but they look weird imo, like sth. is missing maybe sth like a coat Yes, exactly. > @"Faaris.8013" said: > But how would I be able to tell that the Norn/Charr who covers the whole platform at the Wintersday JP is a Thief or Ranger without that magnificient trenchcoat? The silhouette is a clear indicator that they are a medium armor class, which of course is important to know. I hope this is sarcasm. If not, this is already out the window since some of the sets are not trenchcoats, and since the advent of outfits it's even less of a thing. This is an old argument, just like its counterargument, and it never really made any sense, except maybe in PvP. A far better solution for that would be something like a class indicator being (optionally) part of every player's name plate. > @"STIHL.2489" said: > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. That's exactly what I'm hoping to avoid. Both of the main options that aren't trench coats are exactly that. If you read my post, you saw that I said I wanted waistcoats and jerkins... if you have any idea what those are, you know they don't really show any skin. > @"Tails.9372" said: > > @"Erasculio.2914" said: > > **Medium armor**... Is basically a bunch of leather trench coats. It doesn't really fit any of the three professions very much; ranger maybe, **but definitely not thief** or engineer. > Unless you're playing P/P. I agree 100% with Erasculio (both posts!), even if you ARE playing P/P--again, unless you want to play a pirate. I play S/P - P/P on my thief but I still don't want to look like a pirate. [FWIW I would really prefer to play D/D - SB but D/D just doesn't do enough damage--which should be its own thread--and I personally find SB kind of slow & awkward as a combat weapon.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 i want more secksee armours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladezephyr.5714 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > Just wondering... male or female? > I have no male characters so I don't know if it differs but there's not a single good medium set up I can get on females. At least humans. Both! Though I mostly play females. I assume you've tried the sneakthief set, and the (human cultural) assassin's set? Is it that those show too much skin? I do actually like them a lot, but not everyone wants to show that much skin on their toons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladezephyr.5714 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"STIHL.2489" said: > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. Er... headgear? Really? It does offer plenty of normal pants, but you can't really SEE them under all those trench coats and knee-high boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Bladezephyr.5714" said: > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > Just wondering... male or female? > > I have no male characters so I don't know if it differs but there's not a single good medium set up I can get on females. At least humans. > > Both! Though I mostly play females. I assume you've tried the sneakthief set, and the (human cultural) assassin's set? Is it that those show too much skin? I do actually like them a lot, but not everyone wants to show that much skin on their toons. > I don't want to wear anything that isn't a simple short sleeve with pants. I don't want to dress like if I went into a fight I would die instantly from a rouge bullet/arrow/dagger/kunai/whatever because I was too bare. I also don't want to look like a nun either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Erasculio.2914" said: > My main issue with medium armor is that it doesn't really fit the professions it's made for. > > **Heavy armor** for wariors and guardians is fine - there's little variety there, but both professions fit nicely with the armored soldier look (revenants don't have enough of an identity to matter here, IMO). Honestly, it could do with a lot less armour actually. So-called "skimpy" armour for both sexes. Warriors in this game don't really survive by absorbing blows - they're more agile berserkers than straight-up knights. A lot of the rare stuff showcase this by looking more gladiatorial than plated knight, but it is rare. I wish there was more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladezephyr.5714 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > I don't want to wear anything that isn't a simple short sleeve with pants. > I don't want to dress like if I went into a fight I would die instantly from a rouge bullet/arrow/dagger/kunai/whatever because I was too bare. Right... that's a big part of my complaint too. While the skimpy armors look nice, they are not class-realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despond.2174 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 There is definitely too many coats/trenchcoats and a lack of helm options imo. It's definitely the one armor type I struggle with to find a different look outside of outfits etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIHL.2489 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. Eh? She dos not look bald to me...  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. > > Eh? > > She dos not look bald to me... > >  > That's "facegear" I said the head. I want to cover my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIHL.2489 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > > > > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > > > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. > > > > Eh? > > > > She dos not look bald to me... > > > >  > > > > That's "facegear" > I said the head. I want to cover my head. You want to cover your head.... but not your hair?  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz.8376 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017  not bald  not bald  also not bald  still not bald  hmmmm. (this, and several other items like cat ears and earmuffs and the like, are light, medium, and hard. i just happened to screenshot the light version in this case) there's a few more, but meh. could there be better options for headgear? yes. are there NO options that show hair? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIHL.2489 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I stand by what I first said.. I'd settle for less buttcaps, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > > > > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > > > > > > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > > > > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. > > > > > > Eh? > > > > > > She dos not look bald to me... > > > > > >  > > > > > > > That's "facegear" > > I said the head. I want to cover my head. > > You want to cover your head.... but not your hair? > >  > You tell me why a Santa Hat would make me bald when my hair is like this?  So yes. I want to cover my head and not Britanny Spears my head when I do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"katz.8376" said: >  > not bald >  > not bald >  > also not bald >  > still not bald >  > hmmmm. (this, and several other items like cat ears and earmuffs and the like, are light, medium, and hard. i just happened to screenshot the light version in this case) > > there's a few more, but meh. > > could there be better options for headgear? yes. > are there NO options that show hair? no Is there any other hats except that top one? I want more than just that pimp hat for the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz.8376 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 QQ. that's not a pimp hat... it's a swashbuckler's kinda hat... thas why i like it.. the only thing that i saw that looked like a HAT... that looked like you could have hair with it, was the "Ringmaster's Hat". the male version has a bandana wrapped around the back, but the female version has a fringe that looks like it might be recolorable to look like hair (which is the same system the hat i pictured uses) https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ringmaster%27s_Hat unfortunately, it's not currently available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIHL.2489 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > > > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > > > > > > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > > > > > > > > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > > > > > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. > > > > > > > > Eh? > > > > > > > > She dos not look bald to me... > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > That's "facegear" > > > I said the head. I want to cover my head. > > > > You want to cover your head.... but not your hair? > > > >  > > > > You tell me why a Santa Hat would make me bald when my hair is like this? >  > > So yes. I want to cover my head and not Britanny Spears my head when I do it. Well, the obvious answer would be you simply tucked your hair in the hat to keep it out of the way, that is why if you take the hat off, you flop your hair out again. Jokes aside, if that if what you want, the only game I personally know of with the graphic setup to both wear a hat and keep your hairstyle intact is Trove. I wish you good fortune trying to find that somewhere else tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katz.8376 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017    Ringmaster's Hat... with the hair portion dyed abyss. altho... to be fair... while GW2 has awesome customization capabilities... the games that can handle plopping a hat down on top of hair and keeping it visible are few and far between... and figuring out how to do so is normally a nightmare of clipping and weird hairstyles. it's easiest to just cover the hair that said, the most egregious offender i noticed when looking through the available headwear was the "Top Hat" it looks sharp, but it also looks like you have literally been shaved bald. most of the rest of the helms and cowls and hoods... don't show hair for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 My char is not a real person, to me it is an object. I wunt moar secksee charr armours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 > @"katz.8376" said: >  >  >  > > Ringmaster's Hat... with the hair portion dyed abyss. > > altho... to be fair... while GW2 has awesome customization capabilities... the games that can handle plopping a hat down on top of hair and keeping it visible are few and far between... and figuring out how to do so is normally a nightmare of clipping and weird hairstyles. it's easiest to just cover the hair > > that said, the most egregious offender i noticed when looking through the available headwear was the "Top Hat" it looks sharp, but it also looks like you have literally been shaved bald. most of the rest of the helms and cowls and hoods... don't show hair for obvious reasons. Or just let it clip. I really don't care if it clips. Stuff clips on many Charr... stuff clip on many outfits (yes I've seen so much clipping on the weights without people bawling why we can't mix weight armour)... stuff clip from weapons, shoulder gear when we do certain movements and animations and whatever else. Just let the stupid things clip.  Like here. Yes, it makes sense in this case because it's a ghost book, but my hair would clip in every and any back piece I have. Ghost or not. Don't hear people usually complaining on that. Just give me my hair with my hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > > > @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said: > > > > > > > > > @"STIHL.2489" said: > > > > > > > > > I'm torn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one on hand.. I'd like more armor that looks.. well.. lets.. just say less butt-capes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the same time.. I don't want to turn the game into some blatant T&A skin show. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because "Normal pants" and "Normal Shirt" and "Normal Headgear" is T&A. > > > > > > > > I should not be seeing NPCs that supposed to look "lame" and going, "Wow, they got awesome clothes on. I wish I could wear those." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > medium armor has plenty of Normal pants and head gear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Headgear? There's no normal/good headgear in this game on ANY weight as they all make you bald. > > > > > > And yeah plenty of normal pants, but not tops. > > > > > > > > > > Eh? > > > > > > > > > > She dos not look bald to me... > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's "facegear" > > > > I said the head. I want to cover my head. > > > > > > You want to cover your head.... but not your hair? > > > > > >  > > > > > > > You tell me why a Santa Hat would make me bald when my hair is like this? > >  > > > > So yes. I want to cover my head and not Britanny Spears my head when I do it. > > Well, the obvious answer would be you simply tucked your hair in the hat to keep it out of the way, that is why if you take the hat off, you flop your hair out again. > > Jokes aside, if that if what you want, the only game I personally know of with the graphic setup to both wear a hat and keep your hairstyle intact is Trove. I wish you good fortune trying to find that somewhere else tho. Soul calibur 3 released back in 2000 first introduced a character creation mode. All their hat show hair unless the character is bald. I am not sure why GW2 released at 2015 has to remove hair when hat gear on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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