Oglaf.1074 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > There are > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > > @"sneakytails.5629" said: > > > > > > > > How are you really kiting 1200-900 range shades with instant cast, crazy radius, and zero tell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets throw in the teleport in there as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are a dual melee Warrior kiting is essentially damage reduction for the Scourge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful little thing called LOS > > > > > > > > > > > > So run from scourge when ever you meet one in open area, well noted. > > > > > > > > > > It's still doable on "open field" (khylo and temple, which still has kiting, even tho it has awful kiting spots) > > > > > > > > PvP is better since there are no tanky condi amulet, and less open fielded like wvw. Try that in WvW... > > > > > > I think it would be stupid to assume and take into consideration wvw for this > > > > And why is that exactly? WvW is still PvP combat. > > Because its an uncompetetive platform with too many variables making it "unofficial". It's a playground where ppl constantly enter and leave existing unofficial fights. Varying numbers with no win or lose (apart from ppt). As well as buffs, gear, and no standardized build(s). Idk about you but I would never consider wvw when determining matchups and how to play them, never even thought of the idea of wvw until it was mentioned as I find it rather irrelevant. The closest thing to "official competition"/match would be a gvg, which doesn't have any 1v1 matchups. It is still PvP thus making the question just as viable there. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > There are > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > > > @"sneakytails.5629" said: > > > > > > > > > How are you really kiting 1200-900 range shades with instant cast, crazy radius, and zero tell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets throw in the teleport in there as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are a dual melee Warrior kiting is essentially damage reduction for the Scourge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful little thing called LOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So run from scourge when ever you meet one in open area, well noted. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's still doable on "open field" (khylo and temple, which still has kiting, even tho it has awful kiting spots) > > > > > > > > > > PvP is better since there are no tanky condi amulet, and less open fielded like wvw. Try that in WvW... > > > > > > > > I think it would be stupid to assume and take into consideration wvw for this > > > > > > And why is that exactly? WvW is still PvP combat. > > > > Because its an uncompetetive platform with too many variables making it "unofficial". It's a playground where ppl constantly enter and leave existing unofficial fights. Varying numbers with no win or lose (apart from ppt). As well as buffs, gear, and no standardized build(s). Idk about you but I would never consider wvw when determining matchups and how to play them, never even thought of the idea of wvw until it was mentioned as I find it rather irrelevant. The closest thing to "official competition"/match would be a gvg, which doesn't have any 1v1 matchups. > > It is still PvP thus making the question just as viable there. > > End of story. Agreed, I think it is unappreciated to provide a solution which doesn’t consider all pvp mode in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obindo.6802 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > There are > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > > > @"sneakytails.5629" said: > > > > > > > > > How are you really kiting 1200-900 range shades with instant cast, crazy radius, and zero tell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets throw in the teleport in there as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are a dual melee Warrior kiting is essentially damage reduction for the Scourge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful little thing called LOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So run from scourge when ever you meet one in open area, well noted. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's still doable on "open field" (khylo and temple, which still has kiting, even tho it has awful kiting spots) > > > > > > > > > > PvP is better since there are no tanky condi amulet, and less open fielded like wvw. Try that in WvW... > > > > > > > > I think it would be stupid to assume and take into consideration wvw for this > > > > > > And why is that exactly? WvW is still PvP combat. > > > > Because its an uncompetetive platform with too many variables making it "unofficial". It's a playground where ppl constantly enter and leave existing unofficial fights. Varying numbers with no win or lose (apart from ppt). As well as buffs, gear, and no standardized build(s). Idk about you but I would never consider wvw when determining matchups and how to play them, never even thought of the idea of wvw until it was mentioned as I find it rather irrelevant. The closest thing to "official competition"/match would be a gvg, which doesn't have any 1v1 matchups. > > It is still PvP thus making the question just as viable there. > > End of story. No. Wvw is wvw and pvp is pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > > There are > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"sneakytails.5629" said: > > > > > > > > > > How are you really kiting 1200-900 range shades with instant cast, crazy radius, and zero tell? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets throw in the teleport in there as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are a dual melee Warrior kiting is essentially damage reduction for the Scourge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiful little thing called LOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So run from scourge when ever you meet one in open area, well noted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's still doable on "open field" (khylo and temple, which still has kiting, even tho it has awful kiting spots) > > > > > > > > > > > > PvP is better since there are no tanky condi amulet, and less open fielded like wvw. Try that in WvW... > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be stupid to assume and take into consideration wvw for this > > > > > > > > And why is that exactly? WvW is still PvP combat. > > > > > > Because its an uncompetetive platform with too many variables making it "unofficial". It's a playground where ppl constantly enter and leave existing unofficial fights. Varying numbers with no win or lose (apart from ppt). As well as buffs, gear, and no standardized build(s). Idk about you but I would never consider wvw when determining matchups and how to play them, never even thought of the idea of wvw until it was mentioned as I find it rather irrelevant. The closest thing to "official competition"/match would be a gvg, which doesn't have any 1v1 matchups. > > > > It is still PvP thus making the question just as viable there. > > > > End of story. > > No. Wvw is wvw and pvp is pvp. I don’t see any indication in OP which it is pvp mode or wvw mode. All i see is how to fight a scourge which will happens in both pvp or wvw situation. Did you assumed OP is talking about pvp only? Pvp is not about 1v1 fight, and winning over a scourge don’t make you win a pvp match. Even if pvp =\= wvw, how to fight a scourge should keep both situations in mind anyway. Question is how to fight a scourge, and we were trying to give suggestions accordingly, pvp or wvw wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obindo.6802 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > Question is how to fight a scourge, and we were trying to give suggestions accordingly, pvp or wvw wise. And I answered for (as is well emphasized at this point) pvp, instead of a vague intermediate answer just for the sake of including wvw that I don't find relevant. So what's the problem? I don't understand why you (plural) get fixated on the fact that I answered for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > Question is how to fight a scourge, and we were trying to give suggestions accordingly, pvp or wvw wise. > > > And I answered for (as is well emphasized at this point) pvp, instead of a vague intermediate answer just for the sake of including wvw that I don't find relevant. So what's the problem? I don't understand why you (plural) get fixated on the fact that I answered for pvp. It is a question how to beat a scourge with SB, it is obvious that it is happening in both wvw and pvp, it is a fact. Many of us are expecting solution to deal with scourge wvw and pvp wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obindo.6802 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > @"Obindo.6802" said: > > > @"Crossaber.8934" said: > > > > > Question is how to fight a scourge, and we were trying to give suggestions accordingly, pvp or wvw wise. > > > > > > And I answered for (as is well emphasized at this point) pvp, instead of a vague intermediate answer just for the sake of including wvw that I don't find relevant. So what's the problem? I don't understand why you (plural) get fixated on the fact that I answered for pvp. > > It is a question how to beat a scourge with SB, it is obvious that it is happening in both wvw and pvp, it is a fact. Many of us are expecting solution to deal with scourge wvw and pvp wise. > Idc what you expect. I answered the question I didn't have to help. Wtf is wrong with the forums jfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue.1207 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triggymash.9425 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 its really a skill match up, although i feel in slight favour of scourge since being in melee range and competing for a capture point is difficult. You just have to pop in and out, avoid going in when the scourges blow their cd's. wait for any boons to come up to use ur dagger burst and to poke with break enchantments. using your stuns as a small window to damage. unlike facing a druid or something, you just go in their face as much as possible lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolguy.8702 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 > @"Blue.1207" said: > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue.1207 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. > > Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? Triggered much? It's OP. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 > @"Blue.1207" said: > > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. > > > > Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? > > Triggered much? > > It's OP. Get over it. And mesmers aren't? I had to listen to a guildie last night saying how much 1 shotting they were getting now in pvp, and people still couldn't catch them because more clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossaber.8934 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Blue.1207" said: > > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. > > > > Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? > > Triggered much? > > It's OP. Get over it. OP to whom? Yes spellbreaker is OP to newbie and thats it, scourge, mirage, firebrand are the real top 3, see the recent nerf patch, go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue.1207 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Red Haired Savage.5430" said: > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. > > > > > > Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? > > > > Triggered much? > > > > It's OP. Get over it. > > And mesmers aren't? I had to listen to a guildie last night saying how much 1 shotting they were getting now in pvp, and people still couldn't catch them because more clones. Not sure why you're talking about mesmers. I main Guard and Druid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Haired Savage.5430 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Blue.1207" said: > > @"Red Haired Savage.5430" said: > > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > > @"Coolguy.8702" said: > > > > > @"Blue.1207" said: > > > > > This thread is hilarious. Two of the three most overtuned and faceroll classes complaining about killing each other. Golden. > > > > > > > > Lol spellbreaker op? You play druid or something? > > > > > > Triggered much? > > > > > > It's OP. Get over it. > > > > And mesmers aren't? I had to listen to a guildie last night saying how much 1 shotting they were getting now in pvp, and people still couldn't catch them because more clones. > > Not sure why you're talking about mesmers. I main Guard and Druid. Sorry I just assume that everyone mains the icon they have on the forums (bad habit I know). I will say there are allot of people maining quaggans on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I main asura Anyway, since the nerf, scourge no longer has any instant corrupts, so you can avoid most of them. common things that corrupt: the elite skill AoE, ghastly breach. lasts 5s. Also applies slow. don't stand in it trail of anguish. ie bunch of little red circles the _start_ of desert shroud, the pulsing shade AoE. 16s cooldown nefarious favor, 8s cooldown shade skill shade placement 3rd hit of scepter auto chain things that _don't_ corrupt: all the other pulses of desert shroud, and all the other weapon skills also all the above corrupts are 1 boon at a time, so if you can cover your resistance with other boons, you can tank a few corrupts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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