supermanboy.4592 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Some tools have other effects than listed by glyphs, they are: - Consortium sickle harvests faster than a regular sickle. - Unbound sickle can hit the same plant 3 times in one swing. This is much faster at harvesting plant nodes like those found in the guild hall. - Unbound axe and mining pick can hit 4 times in one animation, unlike the typical 3 swings for all other tools. I get that you can put unbound harvesting glyphs on something like a molten axe. I realize that would allow you to get unbound magic from that axe skin. But here is the question: Lets say I put an unbound magic glyph on a consortium harvesting sickle, does it get the increased speed and the ability to gather unbound magic? If I put a watchwork glyph on an unbound sickle does it get sprockets and hit 3 times in one animation? If so, does this depend on the current tool skin or the original skin? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Those increases in speed and harvests/channel are actually tied to the skin itself, not the glyph. You can purchase a limited-use sickle, throw on the consortium skin, and enjoy your high-speed harvests. Likewise, if you transmuted a pick to the Unbound mining beam, it would do the 4 hits in one animation, regardless of glyph. Yes, I've already tested this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Does anyone know if the speed glyph is over the base or over what the skin brings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Don't feel like posting a whole thread since there are already like 30, so I'll ask here: From a grinding-for-gold & materials perspective, how do the unbound tools compare to the leather & tailor glyphs per swing on average? How does the pupper sickle fit into this? The new sand pickaxe? Has anyone done the math on this? ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Some research has been published on Reddit regarding speeds, including these details from [MarsEdge](https://www.reddit.com/user/MarsEdge) of Raiding Guild [KA] > **Foraging** > > * Basic harvesting Sickle - 3930ms (2168ms skill + ~1762ms aftercast) > * Unbound Magical Blast - 2750ms (2520ms skill + ~230ms aftercast) > * Consortium Harvesting Sickle - 2000ms (1400ms skill + ~600ms aftercast) > * Reap-r-Tron - 2000ms (2000ms skill + 0ms aftercast) > > **Logging:** > > * Basic Logging Axe - 6370ms - (4700ms skill + 1670 aftercast) > * Log-r-Tron - 4750ms (4500ms skill + 250ms aftercast) > * Unbound Magic Wave - 4250ms - (4250ms skill + 0ms aftercast) > > **Mining:** > > * Basic Mining Pick - 6350ms (4500ms skill + 1850ms aftercast) > * Watchwork Mining Pick - 6350ms (4500ms skill + 1850ms aftercast, probably same animation as basic pick) > * Unbound Mining Beam - 5050ms (3989ms skill + 1061ms aftercast) > **** ##### Further Reading * [[science] Exact Gathering tool speeds](https://redd.it/8bbwcm) * [PSA: You can use the Consortium Sickle + Glyph of Industry for super-fast harvesting](https://redd.it/8bgoll) * [Glyph of Bounty, how it seems to work, speed and tools](https://redd.it/8bj9k7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Danke. That's actually really helpful to know. Considering how much harvesting I do in a day I think I'm more interested in quicker swings rather than the small chance of extra materials. Need my meta build for clearing a home instance. ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 FYI quickness matters, too. Consider using Coffee. I think sometime this week, someone will end up posting benchmarks for the most efficient "build". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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