Why does everyone say Discipline is mandatory for the warrior?

[NorthernMoose.9617]

what does it offer if you don't use banners or weapons swap that often? could someone explain it to me?

[Opopanax.1803]

People can max out finisher dps by swapping weapon sets. There are also bonuses for executing finishers, so the more you do, the more damage you get.

 

You also get more sigil effects, since they are on a 9 sec cd and you can run 2 different sets.

 

That said, I play a build without discipline and do just fine. But you do loose flexibility of swapping on demand when you need a clutch weapon skill...

[Red Haired Savage.5430]

Warrior sprint (pve not needed as much with mounts), fast hands, and burst mastery. Those are the main 3 things, solo the condi removal is nice if you're solo. But to me if you're solo and have a mount you can swap discipline for defense and be very nice and tanky while still getting lots of damage.

[RedShark.9548]

try pvp or wvw w/o fast hands, clunky as hell, you cant rly camp long in pvp on one weapon set, you have to swap often

[Laughingman.9537]

For PvP and WvW yes warrior already gets kited around easily, good luck with no warrior sprint. Not taking discipline or defense you're just handicapping yourself.

In one line 25% movement speed, easy immobilze removal, fast wepon swap, adrenaline gain on weapon swap, coni clear on wepon swap, might on weapon swap, conserve adrenaline on burst skills, increased damage and reduced cooldown on burst skills, come on how is this not mandatory for a heavy melee class?!

[EvilSardine.9635]

They need to just make fast hands default for warrior.

[Aminas.4832]

> @"EvilSardine.9635" said:

> They need to just make fast hands default for warrior.

 

I agree, also sticking to target withouth 25% speed is kinda difficult, especially if you also have to deal with inmobilize

[Orangensaft.7139]

it also has the very useful Axe Mastery Trait which is good in PvE

And Axe/Axe is probably the best weaponset you can take there for Warrior atm (unless you go Condi Berserker Spec)

[Hoodie.1045]

> @"NorthernMoose.9617" said:

> what does it offer if you don't use banners or weapons swap that often? could someone explain it to me?

 

There are many reasons why Discipline is needed:

 

**1. Warrior's Sprint**

 

Using any movement skills breaks immobilize. It's such an amazing trait especially if you're using Greatsword and Axe.

 

**2. Brawler's Recovery**

 

Swapping weapons cleanses conditions every 5 seconds.

 

**3. Burst Mastery**

 

Burst skills deal more damage, which is amazing for the Axe F1 skill Eviscerate and it gives you enough adrenaline for you to use Arcing Slice on Greatsword.

 

Overall, Discipline is needed because it's what gives the warrior's the most amount of damage. By that I mean that the shorter weapon swap cooldown doesn't slow the warriors' momentum and damage. Being able to swap to weapons and constantly use skills when they're off cooldown is much more fast paced. Try playing Greatsword + Axe/Shield without Discipline. It's so slow, you'll be using the auto attack most of the time.

[Yannir.4132]

Yeah I was trying out a build that was basically PS Warrior for PvP, and I couldn't make Discipline fit in the build. I was out-kited by a freaking necromancer. That says a lot.