Endless Soul.5178 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > @"Arioch.6507" said: > > > @"Taurid.1753" said: > > > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > > > Wasting tons of dev work on a mount designed for a single map? Really unlikely. > > > > > > While the scale is much smaller than a mount, that didn't stop them from locking LW3 masteries to the maps they are used on and no where else. > > > > except for that gliding everywhere else. > > Gliding is a HoT mastery, not LS3. > LS3 masteries were > * Counter Magic special action: small use outside LS3 maps. > * Thermal Tubes: Only LS3 > * Koda's Flame: Only *that map*. > * Spectral Agony: All PvE > * Oakheart's Reach: Only that map **And Guild Halls** > * Siren's Harmony (or whatever it was called) Only that map. > > So 3 map-locked, 1 over several maps, 1 semi-wide and 1 gamewide. Just adding a slight correction in bold. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"Endless Soul.5178" said: > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > Gliding is a HoT mastery, not LS3. > > LS3 masteries were > > * Counter Magic special action: small use outside LS3 maps. > > * Thermal Tubes: Only LS3 > > * Koda's Flame: Only *that map*. > > * Spectral Agony: All PvE > > * Oakheart's Reach: Only that map **And Guild Halls** > > * Siren's Harmony (or whatever it was called) Only that map. > > > > So 3 map-locked, 1 over several maps, 1 semi-wide and 1 gamewide. > > Just adding a slight correction in bold. :) /doh! I even got it myself for my guild! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokh.2695 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I expect it to be only on the new map and will be hoping to be suprised when it's available everywhere. It's a LS4 thing, just as much as the gliding skills, thermal tubes, koda's Flame etc. were LS3 things. As sad as it is, I think this has to happen to keep releases somewhat sepparated, so players will have to get all if they want all. Also from the footage I assume that it's faster than the raptor and I doubt they want to devalue their mounts so soon, i.e. before Exp3. Third point are the skins and skinpacks they already sold. Sure, they can sell more or have packs now contain 6 skins but also cost 2.4k gems The only way I would see the beetle rolling everywhere would be if 1) Speed is the same or less that raptor 2) Wallbreaking is the LS4 thing that happens only on maps in this season. So it would be super useful in this season and more of a cosmetic choice everywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasp Sabreblade.5421 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"HazyDaisy.4107" said: > I'm hoping it's the lead in to mounts in wvw. No. Just No.... WvW is broken the way it is. Let Anet work on fixing/solving the issues first and then some new maps, before adding a disasterist thing such as mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smsarasin.3468 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"Tasida.4085" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > @"Tasida.4085" said: > > > Guess which new mount I'll never be using. I guess someone has to like it so I'll leave it to them that do. I didn't like the mini or the races I sure don't like the mount LOL. Just.....YUCK #mammalsFTW > > > > Mammals, huh? > > > > I guess you don't like the Raptor (Lizard? Reptile?), Skimmer (???), Griffon (they lay eggs) or Jackal (magic sand) either. :wink: > > You'll be one of those that likes the bug. Right on, to each their own. You enjoy the insect and I'll piddle around on the other mounts and the gaming world is a happy place :) And PS....mammals are warm blooded vertebrates so jackals and griffons (shame they never existed) do fall into that class...ijs. The only bug I rock is a VW lol Sorry... My OCD kicking in... But Mammals are called such because they have mammary glands... Things like Birds, lizards, amphibians (frogs), marsupials (such as kangaroos, koalas, opossums, etc.) don't quite qualify, I don't believe... Unless you have mammary glands, you can't be considered a mammal... The jackal, if it were not made of sand, might have qualified. But since it is just magic sand, it doesn't quite fit the classification either... Sorry again for the OCD fit... LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr.5382 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"hugo.4705" said: > But her utility is linked to kourna, they are no wall to break elsewhere... What they could do, instead, is have the beetle knock back mobs while it's rolling. I would _love_ to drive a speedy bulldozer in the open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo.4705 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Totally agree with you, that could be awesome :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub.1530 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"smsarasin.3468" said: > > @"Tasida.4085" said: > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > > @"Tasida.4085" said: > > > > Guess which new mount I'll never be using. I guess someone has to like it so I'll leave it to them that do. I didn't like the mini or the races I sure don't like the mount LOL. Just.....YUCK #mammalsFTW > > > > > > Mammals, huh? > > > > > > I guess you don't like the Raptor (Lizard? Reptile?), Skimmer (???), Griffon (they lay eggs) or Jackal (magic sand) either. :wink: > > > > You'll be one of those that likes the bug. Right on, to each their own. You enjoy the insect and I'll piddle around on the other mounts and the gaming world is a happy place :) And PS....mammals are warm blooded vertebrates so jackals and griffons (shame they never existed) do fall into that class...ijs. The only bug I rock is a VW lol > > Sorry... My OCD kicking in... But Mammals are called such because they have mammary glands... Things like Birds, lizards, amphibians (frogs), marsupials (such as kangaroos, koalas, opossums, etc.) don't quite qualify, I don't believe... Unless you have mammary glands, you can't be considered a mammal... > > The jackal, if it were not made of sand, might have qualified. But since it is just magic sand, it doesn't quite fit the classification either... > > Sorry again for the OCD fit... LoL > Marsupials are, in fact, mammals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub.1530 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"HazyDaisy.4107" said: > I'm hoping it's the lead in to mounts in wvw. I can think of only a couple of objectives that have "ramp like" structures/gullies on the outside which could probably be jumped (depending on how far it flies through the air) with this mount allowing access to the inside. But for the potential payoff of new abilities and possible increased movement across what many describe as sluggish land, I think any problem areas could be quickly addressed and overall players would enjoy it. I don't believe we will ever see mounts in WvW, and rightly so. They will never get added to existing WvW maps. It would make fortifications worthless. And if they tried something like they did with gliders, in that they are disabled in enemy controlled zones, it would give a HUGE, possibly insurmountable, defender's advantage. The only way we could possibly see mounts in WvW is in a new map specifically designed with mounts in mind, and I don't even thing that would happen, because they would probably have to somehow rebalance siege as well. If you make a keep wall too high for a Springer to jump, then how does that affect siege placement, or the ability of teams to hit each other (or placed siege) with normal weapon skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perilisk.1874 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"JDub.1530" said: > > @"HazyDaisy.4107" said: > I don't believe we will ever see mounts in WvW, and rightly so. They will never get added to existing WvW maps. It would make fortifications worthless. It probably depends on the mount. If they just added a single mount type to WvW (even something entirely new and unique to WvW), with a particular use case that is well-designed, it could be a positive change. Another option would be to do mounts differently from PvE -- instead of pressing X to mount anywhere, you could be limited to only mounting from specific points, e.g. some supply camps with stables. You could further balance it by ensuring that those locations only produce a finite number of mounts, so you can't just have a springer-mounted zerg hop a wall and storm a fort, but you might be able to put together a small team of really fast roamers. Presumably if they add mounts, they will also add some counter-mount gameplay (like the various dismounting traps found in PvE areas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"lokh.2695" said: > I expect it to be only on the new map Do you want to bet 50g on that? :p If Roller Beetles are usable only in Kourna I give you 50g. If Roller Beetles are usable on other maps you give me 50g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokh.2695 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > @"lokh.2695" said: > > I expect it to be only on the new map > > Do you want to bet 50g on that? :p > If Roller Beetles are usable only in Kourna I give you 50g. > If Roller Beetles are usable on other maps you give me 50g. I don't bet. But we can meet here next week and see who's right anyway. Also, as I hope the beetle to be available in all of tyria, I would be beting against my own interests and who would want that ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think we all hope for that. The fun game is taking a decision without any clues ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 > @"hugo.4705" said: > Guess it would be useable everywhere don't worry^^ But her utility is linked to kourna, they are no wall to break elsewhere... For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathmagik.3518 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 It'll be usable everywhere. Anet is about one thing. Money. And they made mounts for one reason. Money. To sell the crap out of skins. So this mount is obviously going to be used everywhere otherwise they couldn't cash in on the skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasida.4085 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 To each their own.......there will be bug fans (same as that dreadful peacock raptor) and then griffon/jackal fans as well. And 9 tails fox I'm quite sure has mammary glands and I'm willing to bet the griffon (lower half lion) is like a platypus if could actually be proven so it's mammal LOL. You lot just need to accept not everyone is a bug mount fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haco.1546 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 You see problems where don't have and you complicate the easy. I imagine that the function of the raptor is not just to be quick, he can also make a big leap forward, and surely the beetle won't be able to do that. If we are to follow this line of thought then the Jackal should not be available outside the Crystal Desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I hope it will work in other maps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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