spirit.8179 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Hi I was wondering what the top rangers in pvp are, i play in EU and just curious about how rangers do in pvp and on the leaderboard. and also maybe contact some of the players for tips. ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleazar.9478 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 So I can only speak for na but some good ones are shadelang, kiru (you'll see his roaming videos posted on here), Bic, Shadow pass, and jcbroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffball.8307 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Out of that list jcbroe and shadelang have absolutely phenomenal understanding of the game mechanics and the meta which I find far more interesting than just reflexes. I didn't realize shadelang streamed but I've always loved his highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt Frosty.6973 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 As for EU i guess the only active ranger left is Boyce? Not too sure on any others :shrugs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduriell.6280 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 In EU and wvw i like to watch quickcry. Very good game play usually outnumbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadelang.3012 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Im embarrassed to say that I only recently learned about Boyce ( I am predominately a solo player so I miss out on alot of "whos who" conversations). But people told me he is pretty damned good. So I would reccomend checking him out if you can. Unfortunately I dont stream much I got burned out hard on PvP last season and its made pvping frustrating for me >.<. I may start streaming gain in the future regularly but it likely wont be until a pretty hefty meta switch to liven things up. Jcbroe is definitely another option. So im reinforcing what others have said previously but giving a warning that it might be hard to catch any content from me. And until I can get back into it it likely wont be the BEST content (my last stream for example I was pretty frustrated... while the one before that I was enjoying myself.... its wierd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sai Locke.7193 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That list was fine until you threw Bik in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadCrowned.6834 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 For EU the only good rangers that I encounter in PvP are Treesixty Nogrove, Stronlo Beastmaster and Boyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleazar.9478 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 > @"Sai Locke.7193" said: > That list was fine until you threw Bik in there. Bik not terrible he's has made leaderboards consistently I don't care much for his attitude/personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightningz.1465 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I agree with all these lists, and regarding to Bik, i think we should stil respect him regardless the attitude he brings in his stream, he is good player and he brought a good base build in soulboons, I saw people now have some variants of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 > @"lightningz.1465" said: > I agree with all these lists, and regarding to Bik, i think we should stil respect him regardless the attitude he brings in his stream, he is good player and he brought a good base build in soulboons, I saw people now have some variants of it. I wouldn't call soulboons a good build. The damage is very poor outside of one predictable burst every 60 seconds. It can't 1v1 very well either against good players on the current meta specs. It's survivability comes strictly down the extra stats from paladins amulet. Any time I see someone running it, they're food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sai Locke.7193 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I feel like I am being trolled whenever someone mentions good and Bik in the same sentence. Maybe it is not trolling maybe they are smart. Let's upvote and promote all his stuff so we can get in on the farm? I get it now. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashkew.6584 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 > @"HeadCrowned.6834" said: > For EU the only good rangers that I encounter in PvP are Treesixty Nogrove, Stronlo Beastmaster and Boyce. I'd say those names too and also you aswell, but i'd wouldnt worry so much about who is best, just learn from ppl who beat you and improve what went wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazze.9870 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > @"lightningz.1465" said: > > I agree with all these lists, and regarding to Bik, i think we should stil respect him regardless the attitude he brings in his stream, he is good player and he brought a good base build in soulboons, I saw people now have some variants of it. > > I wouldn't call soulboons a good build. The damage is very poor outside of one predictable burst every 60 seconds. It can't 1v1 very well either against good players on the current meta specs. It's survivability comes strictly down the extra stats from paladins amulet. > > Any time I see someone running it, they're food. Variants of it are better than most of the garbage sic'em one tricks I see a lot soulbeast run around with, at least for 1v1s. And especially when they run anything with marksmanship. I'm more surprised bik is getting credited with what's essentially just the old standard WS/NM build with soulbeast attached to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbroe.4329 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Boon based builds are the only Soulbeast setups that work for me personally. Part of it is absolutely my natural playstyle. I'm a much more reactive, methodical, opportunistic player and while Soulbeast rewards me in that it has big skills that reward timing and positioning, I also know full well that I'm not taking full advantage of every skill available to me in the most perfect way. The other part of it is that I'm bad with the GS in the modern era of the game. Back when it was right before HoT and the Ranger metabuild was LB/GS, I remember playing with it really well, but now I feel like the game outpaces my ability to use GS and that once Maul is on cooldown, I'm basically free food for specs that can run laps around what in my opinion feels to be a dated weapon set. Both Axe/Warhorn Sword/Axe and LB Sword/Warhorn are working for me across all variations of Ranger though; Core, Druid, and Soulbeast. Granted, I'm not ranked queuing this season until a balance patch that doesn't leave me outraged drops, so my anecdotal experience with it in unranked varies between fighting full queues of top 50 (from prior seasons) players or newbies who can't find their dodge button. Here's the build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQRBHhx+0JhKQLLYJLgDLALvYZSwcicXuMXTAoBMByzt/2kbJT7A-jJxHAB2XGAgnAgynEAx3fAA With LB, same setup but with LB and Sw/Wh, including same sigils. Core: WS/NM the same. BM 212. Same weapon variants. Swap out Owl for Jacaranda. Druid: WS: 122 NM: 332 Druid: 111 Same weapon variants. Swap out Owl for Jacaranda. Hopefully that helps, if that is still one of the purposes of this thread. Anyhow, I'm flattered to see my name mentioned here guys. Really, thank you. I've always just wanted to try to promote open, productive discussion here on the forum so that we can all benefit from it and so that I can constantly improve and evolve with the game as a personal goal. I feel that it's been a very helpful collective effort on everybody's part, and I am constantly humbled when I run into one of you guys in game and remind me that I still have things to learn and improve. So again, thank you guys. There's a reason why the Ranger Community is still the best community after all this time :) Also to actually answer the question, Shadowpass and Shadelang are 2 of the best Ranger players I know of on NA over time. What I mean, throughout the course of the game, they've always had respectable skill at the class, regardless of what the metagame has been or where our class placed in that meta performance wise. Kiritsugu and Stawk are both worthy mentions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnie.7213 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 @"jcbroe.4329" Exactly. I can only play ranger on boon build in Spvp right now. The standard LB/GS build is not working for me, too many reflects on mesmer's clones getting in the way and GS is feeling clunky when everyone have evades or so much mobility to kite me around. I've also been getting triggered a lot in this season and hope a balance patch hits as soon as possible because i am sure others are not having fun like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleazar.9478 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Woa some of these comments 1st I listed bik simply becuase I've seen him fairly high on the leaderboards consistently (his survivability comes from using sword dagger after lb and beat mode burst.) As I said I don't care for his personality. And as a side note I understand the isssue with his build crafts. 2nd all of the guys I listed are guys who I've seen throuout multiple seasons place in the top 100-150. (Shade and shadow pass are often top 20 kiru is often top 30-100 jcrboe is often pretty up there too and had very thoughtful insight into ranger) bik wildly fluctuates even so all these guys have quantifiable data that supports them being "top rangers" 3rd boon beast shouldn't be credited to any one person as that is literally how the class is set up as the 3 uttility skills are boon centered and 7 of soulbeasts traits are centered around boons (also ranger inherently as a class is self boon heavy) We're credit is due is for guys who push the meta for example making axe a staple of a build or in shades case making heavy use of the quickness trait. Even the sic em sniper build is pretty (works better) as a boon supported build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol.4310 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Eleazar.9478" said: > Woa some of these comments > > 1st I listed bik simply becuase I've seen him fairly high on the leaderboards consistently (his survivability comes from using sword dagger after lb and beat mode burst.) As I said I don't care for his personality. And as a side note I understand the isssue with his build crafts. > > 2nd all of the guys I listed are guys who I've seen throuout multiple seasons place in the top 100-150. (Shade and shadow pass are often top 20 kiru is often top 30-100 jcrboe is often pretty up there too and had very thoughtful insight into ranger) > bik wildly fluctuates even so all these guys have quantifiable data that supports them being "top rangers" > > 3rd boon beast shouldn't be credited to any one person as that is literally how the class is set up as the 3 uttility skills are boon centered and 7 of soulbeasts traits are centered around boons (also ranger inherently as a class is self boon heavy) > > We're credit is due is for guys who push the meta for example making axe a staple of a build or in shades case making heavy use of the quickness trait. > Even the sic em sniper build is pretty (works better) as a boon supported build > > EDIT, I might have jumped the gun and a direct bit of attack there on BIK, the only reason I have something against the guy is his followers loved talking trash to me both in the game and when I streamed so I kinda had a bit of dislike for BIK. Deleted my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleazar.9478 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Sol.4310" said: > > > > > > > Bik was only listed cause he was a streamer, other than that he was trash and gave rangers bad name like most of the so-called top-tier rangers who have no idea what they're doing. I was banned from forms last time I told a ranger where to go, suppose I'll be banned again. What do you not understand how leaderboards work? That's literally why I listed the ones i did I get the strong feeling you were banned for something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester iv.2618 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 if any of these ranger players has a twitch link, or a youtube channel with guides, other than bik. (would love to watch and learn) can someone provide us with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbroe.4329 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Hey @"Sol.4310", didn't realize you were actively playing/streaming again. I understand where you are coming from man, but there aren't enough content creators left. I'd advocate for people to look up and watch as many Ranger players that are performing well as they can find and cross reference them all. I caught a small portion of your stream last night, so hopefully people will check it out. Good to see you're back. @everyone else; Not sure how many other people have been around long enough to remember, but Sol is a competitive ranger from the earlier days of the game. Like, when ANet actually hosted live tournaments timeframe, and even from long before Grouch was at ANet (who's gone now). He's always played well, and I think he even had some build and/or build variants attributed to him. @"Eurantien.4632" should eventually be back too. That will be fun for me lol, lots of nostalgia. Anyhow, hopefully I provided a good frame of reference. Sol's stream should be worth checking out too @thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 > @"Ashkew.6584" said: > > @"HeadCrowned.6834" said: > > For EU the only good rangers that I encounter in PvP are Treesixty Nogrove, Stronlo Beastmaster and Boyce. > > I'd say those names too and also you aswell, but i'd wouldnt worry so much about who is best, just learn from ppl who beat you and improve what went wrong Too modest to name yourself? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRaPhReNiA.8763 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Top Rangers right now (only eu cuz I am biased): Ashkew, Head Crowned, Stronlo Beastlooser, Boyce (altho I think he doesn't play that often ???), Xomi (same as Boyce) and myself (altho I'm not a top player, I still think I'm definitely one of the better rangers out there) If you need an advice, I strongly recommend texting one of these guys!!! I surely missed some top rangers, so if u are one of them, write down your name. A list of top rangers is surely a good thing to have, especially for newer players Edit: Other top Rangers Bartek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol.4310 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 > @"Eleazar.9478" said: > > @"Sol.4310" said: > > > > > > > > > > > Bik was only listed cause he was a streamer, other than that he was trash and gave rangers bad name like most of the so-called top-tier rangers who have no idea what they're doing. I was banned from forms last time I told a ranger where to go, suppose I'll be banned again. > > What do you not understand how leaderboards work? That's literally why I listed the ones i did > > I get the strong feeling you were banned for something else > I was banned for telling a ranger where to go as I got sick of hearing his $%#^% each time I made a post. I deleted my comment and wrote why I dislike bik. > @"jcbroe.4329" said: > Hey @"Sol.4310", didn't realize you were actively playing/streaming again. I understand where you are coming from man, but there aren't enough content creators left. I'd advocate for people to look up and watch as many Ranger players that are performing well as they can find and cross reference them all. I caught a small portion of your stream last night, so hopefully people will check it out. Good to see you're back. > > @everyone else; > Not sure how many other people have been around long enough to remember, but Sol is a competitive ranger from the earlier days of the game. Like, when ANet actually hosted live tournaments timeframe, and even from long before Grouch was at ANet (who's gone now). He's always played well, and I think he even had some build and/or build variants attributed to him. > > @"Eurantien.4632" should eventually be back too. That will be fun for me lol, lots of nostalgia. > > Anyhow, hopefully I provided a good frame of reference. Sol's stream should be worth checking out too @thread. > > > > I've come back to guildwars full time, I've tried every game and it turns out GW2 has the best pvp. I'm rusty and trying to get back into it much has changed and meta hasn't really changed too much. One thing I noticed is many don't know what the hell they're doing, I went from Plat 2 to Gold 3 in 24hrs of playing. Last night 2 games in a row I had AFK'er one guy made me so mad, he died stupidly, we were 20-50 points behind and he rages followed with AFK and abused the whole team. Happens lots now more than it used to. I'm going to start making content once I've sorted my skills out again, still messing up my keys and I'm not used to the meta yet. I feel like necro got tougher to kill in 1 shot, engi got way stronger in terms of burst and survival against ranger, core guard is strong but beatable the list goes on. I plan to remaster Soulbeast burst builds using Sic'Em, I just need to stop getting pissed off at stupids and just play the game or I won't enjoy myself. But with 2v2 coming soon I plan to stick around and get good at 1v1 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralkuth.1456 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 > @"jcbroe.4329" said: > Not sure how many other people have been around long enough to remember, but Sol is a competitive ranger from the earlier days of the game. Like, when ANet actually hosted live tournaments timeframe, and even from long before Grouch was at ANet (who's gone now). He's always played well, and I think he even had some build and/or build variants attributed to him. One of the first R40s I think. I remembered him in Citadel of Flame armor. I was young back then and wide-eyed fodder queuing solo. "Earlier days" was the time when Virtue Hammer Guard Bunker was a thing (even before Staff). One of the few Rangers in that primal, chaotic early sPvP scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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