Mastery points

[GenghisKhan.7842]

> @"welns.3245" said:

> I think there should be option either free or with currency to reset your mastery points.

 

Hmmmm nope

Just unlock more points

[Steve The Cynic.3217]

> @"juhani.5361" said:

> Aside: I've always been boggled that there aren't options to respec mastery points in this game. Most other games I've played have options to do exactly that. You can respec ESO's Champion Points at will for in-game currency. SWTOR, you can recommit your discipline at a trainer and re-allocate your skills on the fly.

 

The reason for that difference is that in SWTOR, those things are mutually exclusive - a Commando must choose Gunnery _or_ Assault Specialist _or_ whatever the healer one is called and can't ever be Gunnery _and_ Assault Specialist, and I'd guess that the ESO points are the same, (and the same is true of your trait-line selection in GW2, which can be modified for free), while in GW2, the Mastery system permits you to pick _all_ of them rather than being restricted _by the game's mechanics_ to only some of them. SWTOR limits you to one of the three disciplines and eight of the available 32 utilities for your class, so it more or less has to provide a mechanism paid for with in-game resources to change what you selected, just as GW2 allows you to select three of the five-to-seven trait lines for the class and one of the three traits at each tier of each of the trait lines you picked, and to change that at any non-combat time.

 

That's key: the reason you (and I'd guess the OP) can't choose them all is that you haven't acquired enough points. "All" you have to do is gather more points.

[GenghisKhan.7842]

> @"juhani.5361" said:

> > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said:

> > > @"juhani.5361" said:

> > > > @"CJH.2879" said:

> > > > I think a one time mastery reset should be available at the gem store, it would help ANET with more $$ & would also benefit the player base at the same time. Just an idea.... =)

> > >

> > > I'd pay for this. I don't really care about achievements or anything else, TBH. I wouldn't even mind re-earning experience in the Core Tyria stuff. Most of my decisions were made two, three? years ago when the whole system was new. I made some choices thinking I'd go one way with my gameplay, then ended up quitting entirely :p Now I'm stuck with it, and since core mastery points are few and far between-- or are locked to content I'm either never going to touch (fractals, jumping puzzles) or hideously expensive (cultural armor), I'm never going to earn more. Two years ago, I didn't notice the final line of the "Pact Commander" mastery included autoloot. So I shoved all my excess points into other mastery tracks when the little message popup kept harassing me to spend points.

> > >

> > > I'll probably regret that forever unless we can get a one-shot respec.

> >

> > Why not earn some more mastery points? If you have an API key, I can help you identify which ones you have available that would be easiest. (Or you can probably use GW2 Efficiency yourself to figure it out.) Let me know.

>

> Thanks for the offer :) It's appreciated <3

>

> Honestly, though, I'm pretty aware of most of the "easy" points. I've scoured them to death. I've even started a few but got burned out and irritated trying to get them. Karka hunting? Dull. Dive Master, tied to JPs and just general annoyance. I don't like doing collections and I'm not an achieving sort. I also don't group, and have no desire to do fractals or dungeons. Right now, I'm sitting with 3/5 mastery points on either a later fractal or legendaries tier because the interface is locked. I originally shoved points into legendaries before I found out what they were or even knew what the wiki was ;)

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> You can change tracks up until you've maxed XP on everything, but once you're maxed, you're stuck. You can't switch back. So I'd have to get two more points to waste those three on fractals or legendaries, then go back and get eight more for auto-looting. Or I'd have to put up with that kitten popup at five points for however long it took me to get three more points so I could switch back to the commander track. I spend about 85% of my time in the core maps so that would drive me insane really fast. That's why I have so few points now and they're all allocated wrong :3

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> I don't mind the current situation too much-- I've just stopped with core mastery altogether. But I'd gladly throw a few bucks Anet's way if I could get a gem store respec of some sort-- say at $10 or so. Anyway, it's not that big a deal, but I do like the OP's idea so I figured I'd chime in with my situation.

 

I found myself in a similar situation - I forced myself in content I wouldn't normally play, for upgrading the last 5 Core Mastery points I was missing in the Fractal line

And, guess what, I enjoyed it

I feel that's the main point of the Mastery system - getting you out of your comfort zone

 

Now gotta do the same for HoT MP, since I miss the last mastery of one line (0/12 pts)

[CJH.2879]

> @"Kal Spiro.9745" said:

> > @"CJH.2879" said:

> > > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said:

> > > You assume that I haven't, but you would be wrong. I just saw so little value in your ideas that the only valid response I could come up with was to take your own statement and turn it on its head.

> >

> > Well judging from your responses + biased opinion it would be difficult to assume anything else. If you find my ideas of so little value then don't just copy what I wrote & turn it on its head, in fact don't even bother replying at all if thats the case, if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't say anything at all. I've been very respectful of everyones replies & in turn I expect the same.

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> You got no disrespect, but honestly, if you find having your own words turned back on you so disrespectful, perhaps they weren't so respectful in the first place. Clearly you don't actually have any respect for those that disagree with you. You don't want to hear constructive criticism, because you don't want to hear criticism, or you won't have made the claim in the first place that all it takes it looking at your argument to understand the validity in it. You're mistaken, I don't, and many of us don't, also we see the reasons it will ultimately fail and explained that, but you don't want to hear that either. That's why the only thing you got were your own words. But apparently you don't want those either.

 

Last time I checked copying what someone else wrote almost literally word for word, throwing it back in there face (is the height of bad manners & being disrespectful towards someone) & then to top it off saying that the original person in question is actually the one being disrespectful to everyone else just blows my mind (I really don't know how you came to that conclusion?) or perhaps you just like using reverse psychology?.

 

Oh I'm all open to constructive criticism (or any criticism of any kind) so long as its backed up with legitimate reasons that make sense. I have clearly taken on board everything that everyone else has said, yet that is there opinion & I am entitled to mine.

 

Let me make this clear for you, I'm not arguing for mastery resets for players whom have already clearly unlocked everything (or can easily do so), I am arguing for those whom have not yet unlocked everything & are struggling to do so (thats where my disagreement came into question in the first place).

 

I have heard the same kinds of disagreement from other players in other topics/subjects whom clearly disagreed on other things such as mounts for example & yet we now have them in the game (I was also told my discussion was not valid in those topics as well, yet look where we are today). This topic has over a thousand views so clearly mastery reset discussion is in point of fact a valid discussion (otherwise it would have immediately been dismissed by players far & wide).

 

It would seem facts/figures in the end will always reveal the true importance of a discussion & whether or not its valid or worth discussing in the first place. You have stated your opinion & clearly things indicate just the opposite to your original posts.

[Kal Spiro.9745]

> @"CJH.2879" said:

> > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said:

> > > @"CJH.2879" said:

> > > > @"Kal Spiro.9745" said:

> > > > You assume that I haven't, but you would be wrong. I just saw so little value in your ideas that the only valid response I could come up with was to take your own statement and turn it on its head.

> > >

> > > Well judging from your responses + biased opinion it would be difficult to assume anything else. If you find my ideas of so little value then don't just copy what I wrote & turn it on its head, in fact don't even bother replying at all if thats the case, if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't say anything at all. I've been very respectful of everyones replies & in turn I expect the same.

> >

> > You got no disrespect, but honestly, if you find having your own words turned back on you so disrespectful, perhaps they weren't so respectful in the first place. Clearly you don't actually have any respect for those that disagree with you. You don't want to hear constructive criticism, because you don't want to hear criticism, or you won't have made the claim in the first place that all it takes it looking at your argument to understand the validity in it. You're mistaken, I don't, and many of us don't, also we see the reasons it will ultimately fail and explained that, but you don't want to hear that either. That's why the only thing you got were your own words. But apparently you don't want those either.

>

> Last time I checked copying what someone else wrote almost literally word for word, throwing it back in there face (is the height of bad manners & being disrespectful towards someone) & then to top it off saying that the original person in question is actually the one being disrespectful to everyone else just blows my mind (I really don't know how you came to that conclusion?) or perhaps you just like using reverse psychology?.

>

> Oh I'm all open to constructive criticism (or any criticism of any kind) so long as its backed up with legitimate reasons that make sense. I have clearly taken on board everything that everyone else has said, yet that is there opinion & I am entitled to mine.

>

> Let me make this clear for you, I'm not arguing for mastery resets for players whom have already clearly unlocked everything (or can easily do so), I am arguing for those whom have not yet unlocked everything & are struggling to do so (thats where my disagreement came into question in the first place).

>

> I have heard the same kinds of disagreement from other players in other topics/subjects whom clearly disagreed on other things such as mounts for example & yet we now have them in the game (I was also told my discussion was not valid in those topics as well, yet look where we are today). This topic has over a thousand views so clearly mastery reset discussion is in point of fact a valid discussion (otherwise it would have immediately been dismissed by players far & wide).

>

> It would seem facts/figures in the end will always reveal the true importance of a discussion & whether or not its valid or worth discussing in the first place. You have stated your opinion & clearly things indicate just the opposite to your original posts.

 

Wow, the height. The very pinnacle of disrespect. There isn't anything you can think of more disrespectful than pointing out the flaws in someone's argument by using the same argument against them. Nothing at all. It is the very top of the charts of bad manners. Just like your argument, this lacks validity. You're just full of logical fallacies here. Regardless of your position on Mounts, most of the arguments about them were correct. Mounts trivialize a major section of Core Tyria because of how they allow us to traverse the landscape. Mounts for the purpose of a cosmetic speed boost would have been stupid and bad. What we got where full mechanics, not cosmetic speed boosts. The number of people who view a topic do not lend credence to it. You have no idea how many of those people are seeing it and immediately saying, "That sounds stupid, what is this actually about," realizing people are pointing out why it's a bad idea and then moving on. Views do not equate to agreement, nor support.

 

A more reasonable way of gauging support would be with thumbs. I'm actually up on you by 1 in this thread, though we're even where this argument is concerned. That aside, for over a thousand views only 5 people have actually liked the OP. That doesn't sound like a lot of support to me.