ChronosCosmos.9450 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Any plans on adding World First achievements? Like being the first to complete Raids etc. A cool title would be nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasimir.6239 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 No thank you. One of the greatest things about this game is its cooperative nature, including the fact that people freely share things they figure out. It's kind of like a huge crowdsourcing project, where everyone works with the community towards the goal of figuring out stuff. Competitive achievements like world first with exclusive rewards (even if it's only a title and a couple of achievement points) tend to bring out the worst in people where cooperation is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronosCosmos.9450 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 Ok maybe just a title then and exclude the achievement points. > @"Rasimir.6239" said: > No thank you. One of the greatest things about this game is its cooperative nature, including the fact that people freely share things they figure out. It's kind of like a huge crowdsourcing project, where everyone works with the community towards the goal of figuring out stuff. Competitive achievements like world first with exclusive rewards (even if it's only a title and a couple of achievement points) tend to bring out the worst in people where cooperation is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 > @"ChronosCosmos.9450" said: > Ok maybe just a title then and exclude the achievement points. > > @"Rasimir.6239" said: > > No thank you. One of the greatest things about this game is its cooperative nature, including the fact that people freely share things they figure out. It's kind of like a huge crowdsourcing project, where everyone works with the community towards the goal of figuring out stuff. Competitive achievements like world first with exclusive rewards (even if it's only a title and a couple of achievement points) tend to bring out the worst in people where cooperation is concerned. > > Still against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starhunter.6015 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 This is currently being discussed in https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54856/world-first Short story: it requires a lot more work and the benefit goes to just a tiny fraction of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronosCosmos.9450 Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > This is currently being discussed in > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54856/world-first > > Short story: it requires a lot more work and the benefit goes to just a tiny fraction of players. Yeah but my rewards are a lot simpler and easier to implement. Just 1 title. It's not like a game mechanic change or a virtual item. The OP wanted statues and such. I agree that the statues would require too much work. A title would be more beneficial to the raiding scene than the amount of time it takes to implement the title. There are raid-only legendaries. Raiding for a title is the same thing and takes less time to implement than a virtual item such as a legendary. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 > @"ChronosCosmos.9450" said: > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > This is currently being discussed in > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/54856/world-first > > > > Short story: it requires a lot more work and the benefit goes to just a tiny fraction of players. > > Yeah but my rewards are a lot simpler and easier to implement. Just 1 title. It's not like a game mechanic change or a virtual item. The OP wanted statues and such. I agree that the statues would require too much work. A title would be more beneficial to the raiding scene than the amount of time it takes to implement the title. There are raid-only legendaries. Raiding for a title is the same thing and takes less time to implement than a virtual item such as a legendary. . The rewards aren't the hard part. It's determining what counts as world first. And how to ensure that people follow the rules. Those who want 'first' are very passionate about it and even those who don't want it for themselves are very concerned that those who get it have 'earned' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaxares.5419 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I think titles or AP would not be a good idea, but I would support the idea of having stuff like "raid records", similar to the records for various Challenge Missions back in GW1. The game can record various statistics like the name and number of players in the squad, whether consumables were used, the time taken to clear the raid etc. and assign them a rating/score based on those. Raiders can then compete with each other to claim the "top spot" for bragging rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunjiKugashira.9754 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The problem I see with Worlds First achievements is that the biggest achievement in getting it isn't beating the raid, but rather beating the patchday bugs. Among the top raiding guilds this really becomes a race of who can complete the raid first without instance crashes, disconnects, one of the new bosses bugging out, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurfu.5623 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Even WoW stopped that nonsense years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagiil.1230 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Please no. They give us the AP-gap, so that all users can reach an average amount of AP. And AP is also just a number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrizzFreston.5290 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I rather see a leaderboard with fastest completion times than some one opportunity one time thing depending on connection/crash/reallife issues. That stuff doesnt make any sense from a competitive standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drecien.4508 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Take some tape and put it above your toon, write in your title. Viola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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