Pizzarugi.7352 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 So I bought PoF about 2 days ago and spent my game time both doing the main mission and gathering hero points to build up the new Scourge specialist. Finished it last night, but I'm still not entirely sure what to think of it on my condition-based build. I'm definitely feeling the loss of not having "Rise!" in my kit for damage mitigation and aggro and the damage I put out still feels roughly the same, but I'm still not sure. I know the expansion came out a few days ago, but I'm pretty sure most necro players here have a lot more experience with the new Scourge specialization than I do. Which of the two is better for condi necro builds and if it happens to be Scourge, what's the most optimal setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarnor Kunoram.5180 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Scourge is much squishier, but also does more damage overall. You just have to remember to place shades. I played through the entire PoF story without changing my build for the most part (just one utility skill) and there were definitely times when I wanted the survivability of Reaper. Not enough for me to swap, but I've definitely died a lot more on Scourge than I would have with Reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltreez.6435 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Trailblazer + parasitic contagnion fixes the Surv issues without touching your condi dmg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime.7536 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I did the whole PoF questline as Scourge and found I was pretty tanky actually if I used Blood magic since transfusion heals you now as well and with Curses - Parasitic Contagion 10% condition damage self heal. I'm sure you could make a much tankier build without sacrificing to much damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias.8632 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 >scourge survivability issues what I've had no issues anywhere as full "glass cannon" viper scourge with no defensive or healing related traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanto.1659 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Not sure where the complaint of survivability comes from. I throw myself into situations my FB gets creamed and walk out with full HP. F3 and F5 make a big barrier while hurting mobs and pretty much soaks the alpha salvo from them, Torch 4 is a nice chunk of damage. Parasitic Contagion is a constant trickle of HP considering our damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vajra.3914 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 True, PC realy gives some good sustain on condition scourge, even though I would like it to be 20%, or at least 15% so scourge would be a little bit safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltreez.6435 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 > @Vajra.3914 said: > True, PC realy gives some good sustain on condition scourge, even though I would like it to be 20%, or at least 15% so scourge would be a little bit safer. necros cant have nice stuff.... meanwhile eles and their diamond skin.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mygamingid.5816 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 > @Zoltreez.6435 said: > necros cant have nice stuff.... > meanwhile eles and their diamond skin.......... Go listen to the Power Staff Ele raid meta disciples whine about dying all the time while they're doing a golem rotation in Open World without raid meta support. It's worth the giggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Solstice.9754 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Play Condi Reaper if you want to use a spec with better survivability and solo-carry potential, and play Condi Scourge if you want slightly better DPS and better on-the-spot access to utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Depends on game mode. In spvp scourge does pumps huge aoe death zones, but gets easily killed if focused. Also spell breakers and deadeyes really mess up our day. Reaper can still be a very viable aoe condi bomber, less so then scrourge but tankier. In exchange however reaper can't handle being condi bombed as well as scourge does. Long story short - if it's spvp regardless which one you take, make sure you got teammates to support you, and don't stay in enemy aoe. If you're by your lonesome power is a much better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felincyriac.5981 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazut.4296 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 > @Tobias.8632 said: > >scourge survivability issues > what > I've had no issues anywhere as full "glass cannon" viper scourge with no defensive or healing related traits. Thats true, but its also true that we don't have the insta 2nd HP, which saves us a lot of the time from going down. Shroud has a lot larger LF then F5 barrier. Ansd its only 1 click away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouzanpaku.1273 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 > @felincyriac.5981 said: > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. Can you elaborate? I tried Mirage and Rnegade and Scourge is (for me) much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cylokin.2560 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 > @felincyriac.5981 said: > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. Wrong. With first benchmarks, Scourge is pretty much top of the condi DPS classes, second only to Firebrand which is really OP atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drekor.5217 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 > @Cylokin.2560 said: > > @felincyriac.5981 said: > > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. > > Wrong. With first benchmarks, Scourge is pretty much top of the condi DPS classes, second only to Firebrand which is really OP atm. Soulbeast and Renegade both benchmarked above scourge with Condi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substatic.6958 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 > @felincyriac.5981 said: > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. Doing 2-5% less dps than only 4 other classes is sucking? In a game with relatively very easy PVE compared to other top MMOs? Sure. And btw, Scourge even does more dps in fights were lifeforce is gained through deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus.7194 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 > @Cylokin.2560 said: > > @felincyriac.5981 said: > > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. > > Wrong. With first benchmarks, Scourge is pretty much top of the condi DPS classes, second only to Firebrand which is really OP atm. well it was OP now it's reasonable again, pretty close to everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah.4376 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 > @felincyriac.5981 said: > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. Hardly. And don't forget that the Golem will not take into account the double torment damage from movement. In a raid, let's say, you could have 3 shades placed in a triquetra-ish pattern and have the tank move the boss enough to trigger double torment damage but stays within the shade. Honestly I think with that factored in, Scourge might be top condi dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceofsppades.6873 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 > @Drekor.5217 said: > > @Cylokin.2560 said: > > > @felincyriac.5981 said: > > > Scourge for pve condi, but you still suck compared to other condi classes. > > > > Wrong. With first benchmarks, Scourge is pretty much top of the condi DPS classes, second only to Firebrand which is really OP atm. > > Soulbeast and Renegade both benchmarked above scourge with Condi. 1k and 0.4k higher respectively. Realisticaly those are equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now