Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I was basically running full berserker with Chaos/Insp/Chrono. I can just swap in a few commander trinkets to make up for the stat loss. Maybe for minstrel chronos it is different, but as a chaos chrono I'm glad I won't have to focus on weapon swapping just to activate my utilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > Some sigils/runes may or may not be any cheaper to obtain by crafting depending on the materials needed. While that statement is correct, i do feel the newer system should be better in the long run. It just shocks me that it took this long to get it done given that we already had rune/sigil crafting but it was very clearly an afterthought in the design process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaha.3290 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 > @"Zem.4139" said: > hi , mimimimimi If you already link to the news page, you should read it, too... >Concentration has been impacting boon-granting professions for some time. While it has enabled a few very strong builds, it also makes the Sigil of Concentration mandatory in high-end PvE content, without any way to replace it. So, we’re adding a couple of utility options that will help with this while tuning the sigil to a reasonable level. Here you go, here is your Why. And tbh, practically permanent +33% boon duration was way too overpowered. > @"Zem.4139" said: > Its just crazy , the food and utility i paid so much to get bonus ,now will only give me half of the nerf from sigil.... its just insane. It only shows how insanely overpowered this sigil is/was. This thread/you post and all the whining around this change is another very good example. So much whining and complaining and accusations of "destroying the chrono" only because of **one** item, because of **one sigil**. > What ? chrono was not hard enought to play ?? It's not like this would chance anything. You can easily get 90%+ boon duration with the new sigil and keep in mind that utilitys will get some changes too. https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/59803/rune-sigil-blog-utility-option-clarification#Item_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Seizure.4985 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 This sigil gave 500 stat points with a 70% uptime. I think the better question is why did this exist for so long to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morte de Angelis.7986 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 > @"Dante.1763" said: > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. Chrono mains hate when Anet try and balance Chrono with other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. > > Chrono mains hate when Anet try and balance Chrono with other classes. So very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einsof.1457 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Dante.1763" said: > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > > > > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. > > > > Chrono mains hate when Anet try and balance Chrono with other classes. > > So very true. If it was true, and anet was trying to balance, they would increase the capability of other professions support traits and then make MINOR changes to chrono to balance it out. Completely gutting the chrono playstyle is taking a nuke to an anthill and its ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morte de Angelis.7986 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Einsof.1457" said: > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > > > > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > > > > > > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. > > > > > > Chrono mains hate when Anet try and balance Chrono with other classes. > > > > So very true. > > If it was true, and anet was trying to balance, they would increase the capability of other professions support traits and then make MINOR changes to chrono to balance it out. Completely gutting the chrono playstyle is taking a nuke to an anthill and its ridiculous. > except you can still do what you can on Chrono even with the Sigil change, you just need to get more Concentration from elsewhere. Chrono is too good for what it does. You can no longer do everything. Power Creep isn't the answer to everything nor is always the solution. Bringing one thing back, in my mind, is better then trying to drag everything forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Einsof.1457" said: > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > @"Dante.1763" said: > > > > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > > > > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > > > > > > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. > > > > > > Chrono mains hate when Anet try and balance Chrono with other classes. > > > > So very true. > > If it was true, and anet was trying to balance, they would increase the capability of other professions support traits and then make MINOR changes to chrono to balance it out. Completely gutting the chrono playstyle is taking a nuke to an anthill and its ridiculous. > This game has become to powercreeped lately, its almost required to have the expansions and when it comes to PVE Chrono and Druid are almost required for everything. No class unless they got majorly overhauled would be able to approach what those classes can do, and honestly given how anet balances(see destroying Eles DPS the one thing it had going for it in PVE, at one point nerfing ranger and necro to the point of being not wanted for all pve content, among tons of other overkill nerfs to other classes), this change isnt that bad, Chrono is *STILL* going to be taken because of the boons it offers all at once, it just no longer will be able to pump out boons while still having decent DPS, at least thats my initial judgement, which is a good healthy thing for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco.9480 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 33% is unfair and op. stop complaining. other stats didn't have 33% like condi duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einsof.1457 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Draco.9480" said: > 33% is unfair and op. stop complaining. other stats didn't have 33% like condi duration. I'm more concerned by how easy and boring chrono will be to play now than anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I have like 20 of these sigils across 30 characters or more... All those gems I bought with real money to convert to golds to get those sigils just wasted.. This is why it's unwise to spend money on a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > I have like 20 of these sigils across 30 characters or more... All those gems I bought with real money to convert to golds to get those sigils just wasted.. This is why it's unwise to spend money on a video game. Or its just unwise to do that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon.4537 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This doesn't affect Giver's chrono at all :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloc Freidon.5692 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Einsof.1457" said: > 90% of professions have incredibly easy rotations. Now they're coming for the rest of us. 6 years in, anet is dumbing down the game in attempt to gain more casual players by sacrificing the rest of us. Making certain sigils a less thoughtful choice and nerfing OP upgrades forcing you to play smarter is dumbing down the game? That's not what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino.2109 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 It is pretty dumb, you know the chrono is still gonna take the now nerfed sigil anyways since what on earth can it possibly take as opposed to it's boon duration sigil? Nothing's gonna change, that sigil will still remain important to the chrono unless it was nerfed to 5% or lower and made incredibly useless, that just means chronos in all areas will have to swap back to full boon duration armor and maybe have to pack some exotic trinkets with some doubloons.. >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 get to pearl farming :) btw we don't even know what is going to happen with durability runes its has 'on hit' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino.2109 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Yes... minstrel means they'll need pearls for their sigil and their armor mwhahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This is great... People ask for nerfs to conditions across the board and Arenanet nerfs boons. Chrono takes the stick while Mirage still is heavily unbalanced at the top next to Scourges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Dante.1763" said: > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > I have like 20 of these sigils across 30 characters or more... All those gems I bought with real money to convert to golds to get those sigils just wasted.. This is why it's unwise to spend money on a video game. > > Or its just unwise to do that!!! Yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombyturtle.5980 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Dante.1763" said: > > @"Morte de Angelis.7986" said: > > > @"Shagaliscious.6281" said: > > > The only thing that concerns me, is that they've nerfed traits that increase boon duration, now they are nerfing concentration sigil. This will require fractal chronos to drop DPS gear for concentration gear to be able to keep up the alacrity and quickness. > > > > Oh no, the one many army that can provide everything and DPS will no longer be able to provide everything and DPS. Its almost like One Man Army builds are bad for the game. Maybe its just me. > > Its not just you, im sure chrono mains will hate it though. Dont see why they would. They still have 100% uptime. Sure they have to take more commander pieces and do slighly less dps, but who plays support chrono for its dps anyways. This change dumbs down chrono rotation so its afk easy to give boons. Chronos job will become easier due to nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Plus new enhancements aka oils and stones that will give Concentration are coming up as well. So? We already have those, and we've been told the new ones _won't_ be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidsAreEasyAF.8652 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"zombyturtle.5980" said: > Dont see why they would. They still have 100% uptime. Sure they have to take more commander pieces and do slighly less dps, but who plays support chrono for its dps >anyways. This change dumbs down chrono rotation so its afk easy to give boons. Chronos job will become easier due to nerf. I really hate taking more tanky stats to do the same as before. Being more defensive isnt fun imo. The thing i hate the most about the announcement is the fact that they are making everything easier. "Hey, you know that Concentration Sigil? Yeah, you dont have to swap weapons anymore." "Hey, you remember Scholar Rune? Yeah, we changed it so you dont lose that much damage the next time you decide to facetank everything." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist.6851 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 lol this is sad... hopefully the price for the sigil also drops by 70% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanWilder.6923 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 > @"alchemist.6851" said: > lol this is sad... hopefully the price for the sigil also drops by 70% This Superior Sigil of Concentration may not be in any meta builds, its price may drop down to silvers. I bought this sigil few months ago, 34G. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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