Tea.2740 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I know a player is more of a factor than class, but I'm just curious which classes have a edge above the rest. For instance based on skills and play style alone which classes have a "easier" time than others. I'm looking for a tier list based on the dps aspect and carry potential, not support/healing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko.7132 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 scourge and spellbreaker. daredevil has great carry potential if properly played with all the decaps but has a learning curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Pillager.3791 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Right now, probably Scourge and to a lesser extent Spellbreaker. The former can make a point impossible for the enemy team to step foot on (and keep it that way), while the latter can happily outsustain most opponents, or just run through AoEs in a team fight with FC up, causing massive disruption, slow, and condi spread. While this isn't as easy to play, ranged power bursters (Deadeye, Marauder Soulbeast, etc.) can make a fair impact on the game by targeting the other team's Scourge(s), or harassing lone Spellbreakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact.2780 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Spellbreaker, thief, mirage, scourge, in that order for carry potential. "DPS aspect?" DPS is different from just damage. A warrior for example will likely have more damage than a thief at the end of a game, but the thief will have more DPS. One will be hammering away at something for a longer time, bloating up a damage statistic taking longer to kill it, while the one with greater DPS will come, kill, leave. Perhaps a better example was when right after HoT, condi revenants were achieving an excess of 1 million damage per match and each team only got 1 or 2 kills out of the entire 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 are you going to include hot spec or not, because most hot spec are still super strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea.2740 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @Lighter.5631 said: > are you going to include hot spec or not, because most hot spec are still super strong All classes :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Spellbreaker and scourge. Daredevil and chrono/mirage only if you already have a solid team composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUST.7241 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Scourge probably only considered S atm because even Anet basically said they are over-performing due to bugs. Literally haven't seen any Herald/Renegade Revs in PvP since PoF hit... Not including any Core builds and assuming very-skilled players...Probably something like: * **S :** Daredevil (Carry/DPS), Scourge (DPS/Carry), Spellbreaker (Carry) * **A :** Mirage (DPS), Chronomancer (Carry/DPS), Scrapper (Support), Holosmith (DPS/Support), Weaver (DPS/Support), Tempest (DPS/Support), Druid (Support), Soulbeast (DPS/Support), Dragonhunter (Support) * **B :** Reaper (Support), Firebrand (Support), Deadeye (Carry/DPS) * **C :** Renegade, Herald, Berserker, ... anything else. ---- DPS being: Lots of damage Carry being: Play maker Support being: Bunker, tank, healing, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighter.5631 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @LUST.7241 said: > Dragonhunter (Support) ????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 S: Scourge, Spell-Breaker A: Bunker Firebrand, Daredevil B: Druid, Holosmith, Auramancer, Mirage/Chrono C: Scrapper, Dragonhunter, Soulbeast, Weaver, Reaper D : Herald, Deadeye, Core warrior, core guard F: Most everything else Z- Renegade with Kala and/or Shortbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miaz.8521 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 godmode - firebrand s tier - scourge, spellbreaker a tier - scrapper, holo, thief dogshit tier - everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fadman.7058 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Legit haven't seen a single Ele or Rev in ranked queue these past 2 weeks. Makes sense too, an Ele can trait all the condi removal in the world and will still get destroyed by a reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I don't see how you're placing Herald so low in the polls: is hard to use but still one of the strongest HoT specs and way better than most of the PoF ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 ^ Scourge* Mirage (with Port+Blink) can carry as much as Daredevil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan.9035 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @ArthurDent.9538 said: > S: Scourge, Spell-Breaker > A: Bunker Firebrand, Daredevil > B: Druid, Holosmith, Auramancer, Mirage/Chrono > C: Scrapper, Dragonhunter, Soulbeast, Weaver, Reaper > D : Herald, Deadeye, Core warrior, core guard > F: Most everything else > Z- Renegade with Kala and/or Shortbow This looks most accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithilwen.1529 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Abelisk.4527 said: > ^ Scourge* > > Mirage (with Port+Blink) can carry as much as Daredevil. Except that in the majority of cases a team won't coordinate with portals. The Pro league is gone. We need to stop thinking in terms of heavily practiced teams on voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choovanski.5462 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Ithilwen.1529 said: > > @Abelisk.4527 said: > > ^ Scourge* > > > > Mirage (with Port+Blink) can carry as much as Daredevil. > > Except that in the majority of cases a team won't coordinate with portals. The Pro league is gone. We need to stop thinking in terms of heavily practiced teams on voice. why? as I recall you used to complain about losing to those very teams in the ATs? they don't seem very gone to me lol. just because you don't use tactics and can't make it past round 1 doesn't mean other teams can't ;) you don't even need voice coms for portals, just paying attention usually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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