Oglaf.1074 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 By which I mean prohibit them from filling the LFG function with their advertising. Create a seperate tab/category for them so I can permanently filter it out, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @RoseofGilead.8907 said: > They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. ...yes, obviously. That's the point of me asking Anet to, y'know, making it not as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I see no reason why ANet cannot offer a "looking to sell" tab to the LFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 Or alternatively a permanent filter you can apply to filter out entires with the term "Sell" in the group description/name. Kind of a block/ignore feature, y'know? EDIT: Also, why can I still not filter out language specific groups either? I don't speak French, nor German - those groups would never ever interest me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Lentz.6982 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > @RoseofGilead.8907 said: > > They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. > > ...yes, obviously. > > That's the point of me asking Anet to, y'know, making it not as such. Its funny though, they do not allow items to be sold or traded in the lfg. But hey raids are alright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @"Nick Lentz.6982" said: > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > @RoseofGilead.8907 said: > > > They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. > > > > ...yes, obviously. > > > > That's the point of me asking Anet to, y'know, making it not as such. > > Its funny though, they do not allow items to be sold or traded in the lfg. But hey raids are alright! Because it directly involves forming a group it fits in the Looking For Group tool. The logic is pretty solid, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Lentz.6982 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > @"Nick Lentz.6982" said: > > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > > @RoseofGilead.8907 said: > > > > They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. > > > > > > ...yes, obviously. > > > > > > That's the point of me asking Anet to, y'know, making it not as such. > > > > Its funny though, they do not allow items to be sold or traded in the lfg. But hey raids are alright! > > Because it directly involves forming a group it fits in the Looking For Group tool. The logic is pretty solid, actually. Ahhrightrightright selling raids and selling objects are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlemanic.3198 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @"Nick Lentz.6982" said: > Ahhrightrightright selling raids and selling objects are different. With the false equivalence you're applying they're not. But they are factually different because in order to do a raid you have to be in a squad, aka a group, in order to complete the raid. You also have to do the actual content, which is part of the grouping thing. When selling items, not only is there a trading post, meaning there's an avenue for it to be made legitimate, but also they in no way, shape or form necessitate using a group to sell items since mail is independent of the group system (and so is the trading post). When selling a group, well you're selling a service, not an item, a service that can easily be offered by others for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchofas.8243 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Does this mean I can also advertise myself in the LFG as a open world helper? Also PVP, Since i am just selling my service and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew.1865 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Read the raid guides, form a dedicated raid group, researcha builds, set up a raid schedule and then form your own raid. This is a you problem not an Anet problem. P.S. I raided normal and heroic in wow and never paid for a run. I formed my own groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Drew.1865 said: > Read the raid guides, form a dedicated raid group, researcha builds, set up a raid schedule and then form your own raid. This is a you problem not an Anet problem. P.S. I raided normal and heroic in wow and never paid for a run. I formed my own groups. Yeah that is not really relevant to the topic at hand. Did you just want to brag or something? My point is that all the selling spam is showcasing how the LFG function could, and should, be improved with stuff like filters. Same with the language specific groups - there's no reason why i should not be able to filter our languages I don't even speak. Those LFG entires are totally moot to me. On the flip side, you might have people who would like to filter their LFG specifically for their language and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintermute.5408 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Alchofas.8243 said: > Does this mean I can also advertise myself in the LFG as a open world helper? Also PVP, Since i am just selling my service and nothing more. And why not exactly? People create "need help" groups all the time, why not another way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennie.6750 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 90% of the "LFG" groups are people selling raids. They should just remove that option IMO, it just promotes selfishness when they could take some noob and teach. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Rennie.6750 said: > 90% of the "LFG" groups are people selling raids. They should just remove that option IMO, it just promotes selfishness when they could take some noob and teach. :) I don't think people buying raid clear care about learning how to do them. I also don't think people selling raid clear would teach if they couldn't sell them. They would just do raid with their guild like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohoni.6057 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If it's possible to sell raids, then clearly ANet have done something wrong with the content balance in the first place. There should be no market interested in buying raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haishao.6851 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Ohoni.6057 said: > If it's possible to sell raids, then clearly ANet have done something wrong with the content balance in the first place. There should be no market interested in buying raids. Why not? Raid are hard endgame content that many people do not have the time to commit to or are simply too unskilled to play. They can farm gold the way they prefer, taking all the time they need, to buy clear for armor skins or whatever else you can get from them Same thing with dungeons or fractals and jumping puzzle and achievements and anything money can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinroh.4251 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Didn't they used to do this with paths in 'Arah'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @"Nick Lentz.6982" said: > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > > @"Nick Lentz.6982" said: > > > > @Oglaf.1074 said: > > > > > @RoseofGilead.8907 said: > > > > > They're not breaking any rules, though. It's allowed. > > > > > > > > ...yes, obviously. > > > > > > > > That's the point of me asking Anet to, y'know, making it not as such. > > > > > > Its funny though, they do not allow items to be sold or traded in the lfg. But hey raids are alright! > > > > Because it directly involves forming a group it fits in the Looking For Group tool. The logic is pretty solid, actually. > > Ahhrightrightright selling raids and selling objects are different. You can't sell raids on TP, you know. Anyway, I think it's reasonable request that raid selling gets seperate tab in raid LFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebraKadabra.5278 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Back when dungeon paths were more profitable, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamazuki.6073 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Alchofas.8243 said: > Does this mean I can also advertise myself in the LFG as a open world helper? Also PVP, Since i am just selling my service and nothing more. This already happens. Some trains for HP/etc ask for tips. Some cap out on the weekly gold from mail off a single train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebraKadabra.5278 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I know of one HP train runner in particular who runs VB/AB/TD HPs and asks for 10 ecto for each map. 30 ecto is worth WAY more than 30 gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @DebraKadabra.5278 said: > I know of one HP train runner in particular who runs VB/AB/TD HPs and asks for 10 ecto for each map. 30 ecto is worth WAY more than 30 gold. You have an interesting way of calculating worth. An ecto trades for 24-27s (buy/sell order), so 30g will buy you ~120 ectos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhiannon.1726 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 > @Ohoni.6057 said: > If it's possible to sell raids, then clearly ANet have done something wrong with the content balance in the first place. There should be no market interested in buying raids. Have you forgotten the time, when even dungeons like Ascalonian Catacombs were sold on the lfg? So in your opionion dungeons were too difficult as well, because there was a market for buying it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublimatio.6981 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 back in the day, the developers said its okay to sell dungeons and post it on lfg because its a "gentleman agreement" and it belongs in lfg because its about forming a group. im paraphrasing right now but this happened, and thats why raid selling occurs too (and other, similar activities like mastery point taxis etc). i dont see anything wrong with that especially since you can use the search option in lfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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