kharmin.7683 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > Buying expansions is not pay to win > > > > Sure it's P2W as you get a competitive advantage from it. It's just not a P2W microtransaction which is why no one complains about it. > This. > Especs buyable from gemshop _would_ be p2w microtransactions however(even if there would be nothing "micro" about them). > To win what, exactly? Or is this strictly in the sense of the PvP/WvW crowd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashberry.4510 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 It is an insincere attempt to smear especs with the negative connotation associated with p2w games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > Buying expansions is not pay to win > > > > > > Sure it's P2W as you get a competitive advantage from it. It's just not a P2W microtransaction which is why no one complains about it. > > This. > > Especs buyable from gemshop _would_ be p2w microtransactions however(even if there would be nothing "micro" about them). > > > > To win what, exactly? Or is this strictly in the sense of the PvP/WvW crowd? Oh, are you suggesting that "p2w" cannot exist in PvE environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > Buying expansions is not pay to win > > > > > > > > Sure it's P2W as you get a competitive advantage from it. It's just not a P2W microtransaction which is why no one complains about it. > > > This. > > > Especs buyable from gemshop _would_ be p2w microtransactions however(even if there would be nothing "micro" about them). > > > > > > > To win what, exactly? Or is this strictly in the sense of the PvP/WvW crowd? > Oh, are you suggesting that "p2w" cannot exist in PvE environment? > Yeah, I think so. I mean, is there an end-game goal in PvE that one can achieve at the expense of other players? How can I "win" GW2 and you lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkham Creed.7358 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > > > > > @"Tails.9372" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > Buying expansions is not pay to win > > > > > > > > > > Sure it's P2W as you get a competitive advantage from it. It's just not a P2W microtransaction which is why no one complains about it. > > > > This. > > > > Especs buyable from gemshop _would_ be p2w microtransactions however(even if there would be nothing "micro" about them). > > > > > > > > > > To win what, exactly? Or is this strictly in the sense of the PvP/WvW crowd? > > Oh, are you suggesting that "p2w" cannot exist in PvE environment? > > > > Yeah, I think so. I mean, is there an end-game goal in PvE that one can achieve at the expense of other players? How can I "win" GW2 and you lose? Under normal circumstances I'd agree with this sentiment, but unfortunately GW2 has raids. Now to be clear I don't consider an elite spec, if properly balanced, inherently pay to win, but I do understand where people are coming form. It is a quirk of player psychology that group content demands what they call efficiency, but what is actually completion speed via power. In effect, if you are considered under-powered (usually described as low level or poorly equipped) getting in a group can be very difficult, if not impossible. So if you pay for a feature that does grant power you create a new standard for such group based content, wherein anyone who doesn't pay for the same advantage is considered under-powered, and socially stigmatized and/or barred from joining groups or guilds. This is why I personally HATE the concept of raid content in general; it exploits holes in the gamer mindset that turn PvE content into a form of experiential PvP. Like the old catch 22; I need experience to get this job, but I need the job to get experience. IE; I need better gear to raid, but I need to raid for better gear. Once you add monetization to that mix you create a situation that isn't so much pay-to-win as it is "pay or not be allowed to play at all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables.4659 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 > @"Fenom.9457" said: > I’d like maybe mini expansions. One type could be elite specializations only for $20-25, and they thematically tie into the current story, and those new maps have hero points for players who purchase the mini expansion Its funny to me, $20-$25 seems a tad expensive for elite specializations, yet somehow Anet believes that its an appropriate price point for a single mount skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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