SteepledHat.1345

I don't even think I'd be mad

OWP crit for 3k twice in one rapid fire in my screenshot..

[https://imgur.com/a/hVspbWG](https://imgur.com/a/hVspbWG) See attached for a delightful example.

> @"Gotejjeken.1267" said: > How about this...we remove stealth from the game. Thieves can have their evades, Mes the clones, etc. just no more stealth. > > Because, that's what this is about. TC 'mained mesmer for 6 years' most likely because of the ability to shatter bomb from stealth, the massive broken condi's from clones for years, etc. Then mesmer got adjusted / nerfed so moved on to thief...because of stealth and ability to run away. > > Essentially if you are dying to necros and ranger pets you have bigger L2P issues. For one, we'd like a vertical teleport like thief has, which is invaluable in WvW. It's more that I like Trickster archetypes and mobility... something ripped away from mes. Tell me more about the high skill classes like Guard, Necro, and your lovely Ranger. How long do you think someone would have to practice to be effective on those vs a thief or mes? No, thief and mes are so faceroll that's why everyone plays them. Definitely not an ass load more rangers, guards and necros. Cause the community plays what's effective.

Ranger has higher pressure, 1500-1800 range (yeah it floats that far), more defensives (block, evade utils, stealth, perma vigor, perma swiftness), an AI pet, and wonderful heal utils. But we needed to lose two ini on SB5 because the PVP discord said so.

I mained mesmer for nearly 6 years. Mes has plenty of survivability and a wonderful defensive rotation. Thief has dodges and stealth. That's it. That being said Mirage needs its dodge back. Just another idiotic decision CMC was fed by the "Welcome to PvP" discord. He just does what they clique there says for the most part. Balancing for the wintraders at the top.

Immob should cleanse on damage. You're welcome

CMC takes his nerfs directly from the "Welcome to PVP" discord. He doesn't balance for non-wintraders. Unless you're in that clique he won't care about your opinion.