Weerus.3701

Thanks for the warm welcome. I decided to go with main - mesmer. So now I have pretty much full equipped minstrel chrono. Only missing few +5 concentration infusions. I saw its an off support, healer? With a lot of boon strip. Any advices on how to play this class effectively in group? I guess solo is not an option here :D

> @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > Welcome to WvW! > > Play the class that you are comfortable with. Nothing stops you from following the tag even if they boot you from the squad due to classism, just make sure to play smart and not be a detriment. But DO try other classes. You may find that while you main something else outside of WvW that you enjoy another class within WvW. > > All classes can roam and cap objectives. Do not go full glass cannon unless that is what you absolutely like to play. > > You **will** die. It happens. Just use the waypoint and pick up from the nearest objective/tag. > > /wave or /bow to people you enjoyed fighting, we are each others content after all. > > Ignore any salty whispers you get. how do you wave or bow while dead for example? XD or jsut winner does it?

> @"Heepnose.5174" said: > That feels like a definite case (and I'm guilty of this a lot) of people chasing the meta rather than playing what they are good at. I'm guilty of it too, tho I do not enforce it. I do prefer to have alacrity and hfb quickness in party :)

> @"lare.5129" said: > 2 days ago cms+t4 was done with setup: pwr holo, pwr thief wiht staff, hfb, alac(me), cfb(on100), and swaped on power slb for rest. Chill, solid run. > 1 day ago: hfb alac(me) bs(cfb on100), cfb (weaver rest), cfb (power guard rest) - awful toxic long run. > both setup 8kufe+250kp You mean HFB quickness?

> @"NorthernRedStar.3054" said: > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > Yesterday I tried thief, and maan I loved all the mobility, got kinda carried away with +1 and didnt always run for capping far :D > > Then I tried guardian. Holy Fook! They melt ppl within seconds, I was total newb and ppl were melting, dps that came from burning is insane. Now please someone explain it to me. Am I a natural with guardian, or is it seriously waaay tooo overdue for nerf? If its the first one, I dont see myself playing anything else because I finally feel like I'm impacting the game :O > > Burn guard is a newbie stomper of the highest caliber. Combine that with your MMR, and you get just-as-expected results. Would you suggest melting people to gold or even platinum tier? And then focusing on other class? I mean hell, nothing comes close to dh burn...

Mesmer: Make clones and shatter for dps, be it power dmg on shatter or apply conditions on shatter. I main mesmer since 2012 and condi mirage is where I find the most fun currently. DPS is very good, but it lacks a bit on small trash mobs, medium/hard mobs to champ is where its fun, since a lot of conditions can be applied and I just repeat what is quite a simple rotation and keep evading attacks. If you master mirage you can evade most of the dmg. I would say mirage is condi oriented - axe/torch pistol. And chrono is power oriented. Chrono can also be used as a support, but imho his support role got overtaken by guardian firebrand and revenant renegade (quickness and alacrity). Continuum split and reseting everything is fun mechanic tho, altho can be hard to get perfected. Currently not very usable in pvp and wvw due to recent nerfs =/ Guardian: Burn dragon hunter melts people in pvp, I imagine in pve its the same lol. Very sought after support in fractals. Nice in wvw. Necromancer: Think of him like mage tank who applies conditions. Used to be broken, now its not as much, but still survivability is quite insane. Good for any game mode, not must have on any tho. Ranger: Can be either condi build or power build. Also can be support with druid trait line, tho meta shifted to heal firebrand imho. Decent in any game mode really, not a must anywhere, maybe raids for spotter. Elementalist: besides the engineer, most complex class, it can be the best class, or the weakest. If you are not prepared to learn his every skill in detail and learn of aoe blasting for might apply, aoe heal, aoe cleanse etc, skip it. You need to heavily invest and master it to a point where you will type on a keyboard like a friking piano. At that point your a god. Seriously, i would advise you to skip it if you are not going to learn about every little thing about it. Fyi, play since 2012, didnt yet master it and i suck. **Warrior: **Most basic class. I have the less knowledge off since I never played it because rl friend mains it. Can be used as banner slave support, quite popular. Very good as support in pvp atm. If you love general warrior class, you can go for it. But for general warrior could also apply to drahon hunter power build, or power ranger with greatsword, and even revenant. Thief: For pvp, it has similar role as mesmer. You run around and +1 fights and empty ponts. Mesmer would probably have better 1 on 1 chance, but thats not their role. In certain raids its usefull as boonstrip, for wvw i guess it could be fun to solo roam with proper build, same as mesmer, but so would be ele, or pretty much any class. Think of it as a best mobility class, and daredevil is only class with 3 dodge bars. And mirage got nerfed and only has 1, even tho whole specialization is based around dodges and evades. Retarded move in trying to balance somethng that was supposed to exceed in comparison to other classes. Engineer: I wouldnt say stay away new players. In fact, I would put him as a viable new player class if you arent looking for a one button class. It is a lot more forgiving to play engi compared to ele. I would say make it and test few skills/kits and see if you like the gameplay. Its easy class to play for real, but its just as hard to master as ele. Difference is, you wont be dead in few seconds :D Revenant: Lovechild of warrior and thief. Its quite fun in pvp and not the hardest to play there either. Highly sought after for raids and fractals. I thing wvw they are good too. His gameplay is quite different than other clases, has the smallest amount of skills to go trough, so you could get a hold of it quicker i guess. Can be powerfull as condi or power. This is my insight into classes, hopefully you find it insightful :D

Yesterday I tried thief, and maan I loved all the mobility, got kinda carried away with +1 and didnt always run for capping far :D Then I tried guardian. Holy Fook! They melt ppl within seconds, I was total newb and ppl were melting, dps that came from burning is insane. Now please someone explain it to me. Am I a natural with guardian, or is it seriously waaay tooo overdue for nerf? If its the first one, I dont see myself playing anything else because I finally feel like I'm impacting the game :O

> @"lare.5129" said: > ofc we can take > heal weaver > 4 power chrono with SOI spam > and not one can't say that it setup can't do any fractal instace lol :D Whats soi? Emberessed I ask this being mesmer sicne 2012 XD

> @"Shao.7236" said: > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > @"Shao.7236" said: > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > @"Shao.7236" said: > > > > > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > > > > > > @"Shao.7236" said: > > > > > > > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > > > > > > > Ren / prev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, will try it. I haven't been playing for years now, but no way in hell am I running my main mesmer, what has happened while I was away? XD > > > > > > > > One dodge cmon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not Mesmer but Mirage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I was thinking of mirage. I'm just baffled as how anet could remove core mechanic from a class. Only one dodge on class that is centered around dodging. Thats dodgy :D > > > > > > > > > > They added an extra dodge on Daredevil, what stops them from removing any? Besides, Mirage can dodge at anytime and have more dodges laying all over the place as you play the profession that can be used to constantly pressure with added Vigor. > > > > > > > > > > There's more dodges accessible overtime on Mirage than any other spec, it was a clear issue to never be able to kill any Mirages with 2 dodges and nobody wants to admit that. Only way was if they were very bad or countered by impossibly risky transfers that they couldn't recover from. > > > > > > > > > > Finally Jaunt exists. > > > > > > > > There's more dodges accessible overtime on Mirage than any other spec > > > > ??? > > > > > > Explained that wrong, but meant with 2 bars. Yes there was more "overtime" and considering they can be used at anytime. It was overkill. > > > > mirage had less dodge uptime then classes like weaver or thief, even with 2 dodges. now its just lul > > At release till it was patched Mirage Cloak was a full second (or even 1.25 but I'm being fair giving it 1 second instead) compared the 3/4 of regular uptime and fixing that still wasn't enough (Imagine my shock that evading at anytime isn't broken enough already, just dodge every following burst.) but who's gonna admit it anyway. > > Daredevil with endurance alone surpass both yet with 3 bars barely beating Mirage by 0.25, but having Mirage Cloak usable at any time twice is really easy to recover from anything in the entire game, forget exhaustion unless you're going to count it on Daredevil as well. > > Put weapons into the mix not counting utility or invulnerables, Daredevil uptime can't get more than 3.75 back to back with weapon evade spam, you'd think Weaver won with 4.25 yet Mirage can go up to 4.5 (1+1+1.75+0.75) because people loved to abuse that sword evade bloated in uptime (and mobility) while benching Axes of Symmetry for damage, which is also still strong today in Hybrid Damage but that's something else no one will admit to regardless. > > Want to add utility, traits and invulnerabilites? Don't forget /optional/ Mirrors that can be spawned alongside 3 extra seconds of invulnerability that will easily break any sustain uptime from all utility people can toss (outside of stealth spam), not forgetting Jaunt and Blinds. > > Definitely not above Mirage, of course you can still connect everything else again under the latter as CD's go down but you see, this is all part of Mirage gameplay whether you play offensively or defensively, Weaver or Daredevil don't get all of this while being able to dodge "anytime", maybe just Primordial Stance or Steal at best. > > Have me go GS/Sword+Torch and abuse that overpowered design instead then complain balance nerfs to my profession because I can't be super powerful and untouchable at the same time. > > Implying that this was okay also implies that Revenant was fine with a stunbreak every 10 seconds that could follow with evade spam or that Spellbreaker evade spam was also okay. They weren't at all and funnily enough did not match Mirage superior Cloak uptime. > > Weaver actually sits barely above the food chain in terms of evade now and that's the only viable part of Elementalist, core is extremely weak with all the high cooldowns as Weaver get the best utility and Tempest is either a easy glassy kill or a aurabot. Should you know who really has it worst right now, definitely not Mesmer or Mirage even at one dodge. You seem to have something against mesmer or specifically mirage :D Only mesmers I see here and there are power shatter builds so far. And if cought out of breath its deadly indeed...

> @"Kuma.1503" said: > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > I'm very intrigued by ele, but never really invested into one. Where could I learn all those rotations and blasting from? :) > > I was never fond of engineer tho, but it bothers me that I don't own a meduim armor class. Holo looking nice tho... > > > > Been playing mesmer for years, but the spot it is in, I don't really wan't to play too much with him. It's my main tho. > > Thief is imo same as mesmer, decaping and only +1. Its fine and I've been doing it always. But I want some high risk/High reward. To potentially outplay oponent. Is revenant it? :pensive: > > Just made HFB for fractals and it's fun. I could try it in pvp too I guess. Which build would you recomment. I do like to support. But i'm more intrigued by winning 1v1 and 2v2 etc. at the moment, as I never focused on this before. > > If you're interested in learning Ele, I highly reccomend checking out [Cellograg's Youtube Channel ](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvpBSZfPurLAtzQj8qX6hHw) He's one of the best weavers out there, and he's got several in depth guides posted > > Here is a [Lightning Rod Weaver guide]( ) by Kahsua that does a good job of explaining your Bread n butter combos. > > [Vallun ](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcDJ60QOCj3GjHui8Ws0cg) has a few guides on his channel, including builds for Weaver, Tempest, and Support Firebrand. Check out his recent how to support video for a Firebrand build you can try out. > > Or if you don't mind off meta builds. I can also give you my Sage firebrand build with a quick rundown of why it takes the traits it does ect. > > > Thanks. You can share :)

> @"LolLookAtMyAP.8394" said: > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > > @"LolLookAtMyAP.8394" said: > > > PRO TIP: This is coming from someone who's PvP'd for a long time. > > > Classes are only fun... if you play them well. If you play an interesting class but keep dying, over and over, you won't like it. You'll end up being frustrated. > > > > > > So the answer should be: any class can be fun as long as you commit to it and try your hardest on making it work. When you are able to carry a team, you probably feel proud and like you are a meaningful asset to your team. If you're playing some build and keep dying over and over that obviously isn't fun in any sense. > > > > I totally agree, and I intend to try few of the general fun gameplay classes and see for myself. So far revenant seems to be nice. But will try others to be sure on who to invest time. What would you recommend? :) > > It's hard to recommend any class really, because of how unfriendly Conquest is to newer players. The game doesn't teach anything regarding rotation for Conquest. I would not recommend a class that is overly restrictive (Mirage, Revenant) but rather one with plenty of resources and tools that haven't really been nerfed much. I'd look into Holosmith. Interesting view, will give it a try :)

> @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > staff ele hands down But which build? :D

> @"Shao.7236" said: > > @"Weerus.3701" said: > > > @"Filip.7463" said: > > > Ren / prev > > > > Thanks, will try it. I haven't been playing for years now, but no way in hell am I running my main mesmer, what has happened while I was away? XD > > One dodge cmon... > > That's not Mesmer but Mirage. Yes I was thinking of mirage. I'm just baffled as how anet could remove core mechanic from a class. Only one dodge on class that is centered around dodging. Thats dodgy :D

> @"Fueki.4753" said: > Since Arenanet murdered my Meditation Symbol Core Guardian, > Power Soulbeast is the _least unfun_ thing for me. Whats the role of this class i spvp?

> @"LolLookAtMyAP.8394" said: > PRO TIP: This is coming from someone who's PvP'd for a long time. > Classes are only fun... if you play them well. If you play an interesting class but keep dying, over and over, you won't like it. You'll end up being frustrated. > > So the answer should be: any class can be fun as long as you commit to it and try your hardest on making it work. When you are able to carry a team, you probably feel proud and like you are a meaningful asset to your team. If you're playing some build and keep dying over and over that obviously isn't fun in any sense. I totally agree, and I intend to try few of the general fun gameplay classes and see for myself. So far revenant seems to be nice. But will try others to be sure on who to invest time. What would you recommend? :)