Shieldbash.5304

That would be fine with me, bringing the weaker specs up to par is always better then nerfing the OP ones!

Spellbreaker is already disgusting and invincible practically.

There should ALWAYS be a downside, Massive Burst / Low Survival, Massive Survival / Low Damage or Healing, Massive Healing / Low Damage, Great CC / Poor Burst etc. Right now certain classes have it all!

> @"Onlyflameone.2136" said: > Hello GW2 community. Hello Devs. > Much Love from me. > > I adress this to PvP. > I am forwarding this topic to all the people who constantly make cry posts about nerfings. > > **Before you tear your eyes out for QQ nerfs - do think about it.** > > I have been playing GW2 for some time now, pvp mostly, and have learned that every single class has pros and cons. But every single class has a counter build VS builds that are considered as Meta and OP. > > **Prove me wrong?** > > If you say condi guard is powerful and one-shots a thief, think about it. Good thiefs will one-shot guardian, becouse they know how. For example, they may spec for lot of boon removings, since guardian is a alot boon dependent, and maybe a good thief will add some condi cleaning abilities. The point is - a good thief will never complain, he knows he needs more effort to kill condi guard, but he can. > > I've played 1/3 from classes myself, figuring out how to counter something that has crushed me and I do manage to find the right build and playstlye. > > I think the problem about QQ nerf threads comes from the one desire you want Your playstyle and one and only class build become meta and to counter everything. No, you can counter few classes and builds but you will be vulnarable VS others. Every class can counter every class but most likely you will have to change lot of things with your build and playstyle to counter sometimes something rare and specific. > > Thank you Devs for the quality of experience with this game. > Thanks for the great community here. > > Best wishes > Onyflameone Thats maybe so in some cases, but I play Ranger not Soulbeast, and right now Necros, Burn Guardians, Revenants, Thiefs all the classes that can cast Torment are doing far far far to much damage! Its ridiculous! I shouldn't have to log out and onto another class just to play against the OP meme Specs! Thats not good design, its not good for the game, and you defending it tells me you clearly need the crutch to play one!

> @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > @"Shieldbash.5304" said: > > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > > Without seeing a build, it's hard to say what's going wrong for you. > > > > > > Ranger, if built correctly, is one of the hardest classes to kill. Alot of that survivability doesn't come from directly taking hits to the face and tanking through them, but rather from using mobility to mean you don't get hit in the first place, keeping them away from you with cripple/immob, or stopping them from attacking with CC. > > > > > > You don't need to use burning in order to do damage, ranger has plenty of other sources of damage. If you're trying to use Torch and flame-trap, that's probably where you're going wrong, as neither of these are very good. > > > > This is pretty much what I am running. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?POwAMdflZwyYasQ2JO0PaL/Sk6cA-e > > I'm not a ranger main, so maybe someone else can add more, but some comments on this build: > > - Longbow and Axe/Axe are both damage-focused ranged sets. I'd swap out one or the other for either greatsword or sword/dagger to give you some melee options and also some more defense. > - Signets aren't great, most ranger builds take Survival skills (things like lightning reflexes) > - Survival skills combine really well with the trait Wilderness Knowledge for condition cleanses > - Wilderness Knowledge also works with the other traits Child of Earth and Zephyr Speed for even more cleanse > - Troll Unguent, with the benefits of Wilderness Knowledge, is a much more powerful heal than We Heal As One, which is only really beneficial if you're playing a more bunkery Nature Magic build. > - Smokescale is pretty much the best pet, you need a really good reason to not take it > > So I'd recommend something more like: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?POgAMFlFw6YesQ2JO2Ppr1SOXaA-z5IeIZKF6VEUyCwxDA > > And the way you'd want to play it is to try and stay at a safe distance as much as possible and let your bow and your pet do as much damage as possible. That doesn't just mean finding a place and standing still to pewpew, you need to be constantly moving, use the stealth from longbow #3 to relocate, etc. Then, if you get jumped up close, swap to greatsword, especially the block on #4 can really save you, and the leap on #3 to move out of harms way and then swap back to bow. Decent, thanks... I used to play LB GS way back, but I thought using the Axes during weapon swaps waiting on LB cds it would be great to add more Conditions and the Whirlwind helps me against Theives as it does damage and reflects damage they do to me. I'll check out GS again and see how it feels

> @"Ragnar.4257" said: > Without seeing a build, it's hard to say what's going wrong for you. > > Ranger, if built correctly, is one of the hardest classes to kill. Alot of that survivability doesn't come from directly taking hits to the face and tanking through them, but rather from using mobility to mean you don't get hit in the first place, keeping them away from you with cripple/immob, or stopping them from attacking with CC. > > You don't need to use burning in order to do damage, ranger has plenty of other sources of damage. If you're trying to use Torch and flame-trap, that's probably where you're going wrong, as neither of these are very good. This is pretty much what I am running. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?POwAMdflZwyYasQ2JO0PaL/Sk6cA-e

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Shieldbash.5304" said: > > Good Morning, > > > > I left 5yrs ago after playing my Warrior in rated daily for a long time and the game got stale, I left to play other games and have come full circle. That said I have a lot to relearn as I am lost trying to remember how, where , why everything I need to do. > > > > I decided instead of relearning with my 80 Warrior, I'd play my 80 Ranger, however even upgrading to get Soulbeast and Druid it seems no-matter what deviation of spec I choose I just am literally destroyed by most classes. Sure I understand I am a noob again, but I am not a horrible player, just relearning. > > > > I seem to be missing many damage sigils for pvp build causing Earthquakes when swapping weapons and such? I also notice Ranger seems to be the only class unable to use Fire Conditions? Even the Trap does so little fire damage its not worth even using, I cannot combo and variation of talents or weapons to cause fire damage... > > > > Against Warriors, Guardians they literally just move in and start crushing me, I dodge and pop immunity, root, knockback but as soon as thats over I am usually at 20% hp and get deleted. > > Are rangers just bad now? > > Ranger is heavy on poison and bleeds like thief is, build for those conditions and ull do great damage. I usually am #1 in damage but also #1 in deaths too! Sometimes I can get a comp that I can actually finish 16 kills 5 deaths, but then I am deleted by Warriors, Guardians and Revenants, Thiefs the next 5 matches.

> @"valkyrie.4563" said: > Nope .git good kid Such a WoW forum comment! sigh.......

Ok downloading game, i'll be heading back in name is Homie Jackson ranger getting owned by everyone! lol

> @"Zemanov.7253" said: > lol 5 years for me as well, right after I bought first xpac I quit. I come back and game kicks me :| Yea, Shadowloands blows! Decided to come back and a lot has changed, I am enjoying relearning with my 80 ranger need to relearn everything...

> @"cobbah.3102" said: > Broken game so they shut it down I guess ,bye GW2 I hope not, I just came back after 5 years 3 days ago and bought the upgrade!

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