Bear.9568

> @"vier.1327" said: > > @"Bear.9568" said: > > > @"vier.1327" said: > > > I still believe in our dream... Alliances > > > > You have to know when to cut your losses, this is one of those instances. > > > > ALLIANCES NEVER EVER GONNA HAPPEN, LIKE EVER > > Not gonna happen, but I still love you. Thx, but alliances are never going to happen.

> @"Auroraborealis.7310" said: > Oh but I tell you what, they are good at moderating and censoring these forums where real humans try to share their opinions about the game. > R.I.P PvP in Guild Wars 2 So much truth. I've been banned twice in the last 3 weeks because of putting anet on blast. I have no intention of stopping either. BUFF THIEF PvP is full of bots WvW links are junk Eat it mods!

> @"vier.1327" said: > I still believe in our dream... Alliances You have to know when to cut your losses, this is one of those instances. ALLIANCES NEVER EVER GONNA HAPPEN, LIKE EVER

> @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > @"Bear.9568" said: > > > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > > > @"Masteis.9720" said: > > > > > I would take gods of pvp with a grain of salt tbh, it lists mirage as dueling class lul Mirage was a dueling class until all the casuals cried it was too op. Either way the build curators for godsofpvp are beyond the skill of most people on this forum, including yourself.

Buff thief, but what am I saying.... We know all the kittens will keep complaining until no one plays pvp and they'll cry to anet that pvp is ded.

> @"Ragnar.4257" said: > > @"Masteis.9720" said: > > Hi fellas, > I've mained Guardian, to be honest, I do not have any problem with dealing a Mesmer. If I take right actions like dodging skills or using right skills in right time etc. I can take down any class. I believe that mastering any class and playing it is the right the key. But, the thing i want to mention is that the attention you have to pay. > For example; as a Guardian, I have to calculate every move. I cannot use my skills randomly, I need to use them in a correct situation. To success, I have to play smart. > And about Mesmer; I just started to play with Mesmer a few days ago. I just checked a meta build and never watched a single PvP guide. What I do is just laying down whatever phantasm/shatter I, and spaming F3 F4 and teleport when I am low. I don't even select a target, I just push the buttons and try to survive while laying clones around. I have more win ratio than any other class now. > I am not trying to tell that Mesmer's damage should be nerfed, I just wanted to point that Mesmer shouldn't be a class that is really easy to play. Silly Guardians, If you don't select a target then spamming your F3/F4 shatter does nothing because your clones are standing still lol. Gods of pvp: Guardian Build Difficulty - 1 Mesmer Build Difficulty - 4

> @"JusticeRetroHunter.7684" said: > Wanna know why no one has provided a video yet? Cause i've been deleting every single thief i've come across this past week, so the only footage anyone can have so far is being insta-eliminated by hilarious 4-8k reaper autos. Exactly, 2-3 autos and thief dead....... but thief much too op, so scare, much stealth, moar nerf needed.

> @"Axl.8924" said: > Eh isn't daredevil the decapper? i mean you got swiftness from running and also getting rid of soft ccs and some hard ccs with mobility. > > Daredevil seems like a pretty good decapper or it did. There is no decap in this meta. It's all bunkers that never leave points. That means no decaps... get it

I've said it before and I'll say it again... BUFF THIEF Thiefs main role in pvp is decap / +1, in the current meta there is no decap option as holo's sit home/far and cant be moved, even in 2v1's it takes an long time to work down the nade holo's while not getting rekt. This doesn't include the revs dropping condi like they're the new mesmers. Meanwhile tanky af warriors rotate from mid to whichever side is being pressured and have battle standard to insta revive any downs. Thief just creates outnumbered situations for their team because they don't have the power or pressure they used to, thus they can't force anything with high burst potential or finding open nodes to decap because nodes are not left unattended in this meta.

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Yasai.3549" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > Someone has yet to explain in which universe stealth into backstab for 15 minutes is high skill cap, 'cause for the life of me I can't understand it. > > > > Yu also realise that the people who argue that "when the thief disengages, the thief lost" are usually non-thief players, or players who have played thief but isn't their main. > > It's curious, 'cause when _I_ lose I get to bleed for some good 20 seconds, then I sit and rethink my actions for some other 15 seconds while I respawn, then I'm sent to waypoint, then I have to spend some more 15 seconds to reach my objective again and the enemy team gets 5 whole points from that, on top of whatever I was defending. > > When _a thief_ loses the guy dashes behind some cover (can't prevent that, daredevils ignore immobilize!), hides in stealth (with _both_ ranged blind and unblockable AoE blind to cover this action :) ) and be back immediately, so I'm not sure what are we even talking about when we mention "losing" 'cause clearly we are using the same word for two very different concepts. > > **INB4** some random thief comes crying 'cause I'm a salty mirage and I can't understand the intricacies and depth of permastealth gameplay yaddayadda the lack of damage makes up for it even though there's a literal video in this thread of a pepega-tier thief dropping some 8k from stealth to a trailblazer mirage and insta-back to stealth yaddayadda I think a thief died once yesterday and it's very very unfair :( This is actually hilarious. A mesmer complaining about a thief. Hard to catch is on a 300s cd so when you stunlock a thief they either have to burn shadowstep, roi or H2C is on a 300s Cd. Seeing as mesmer has multiple access to daze/immob you really have no excuse for letting a thief get away since you have blink and can use magic bullet to lock a thief down. Combo this with illusionary leap/swap and thief is hurting. The stealth thing is even funnier as mesmer has the prestige into phantasmal mage that interrupts. Oh, not to mention mesmer has "mass invis" . Combo this with signet of midnight and your invis long enough to either disengage or watch the thief reappear while you reset into the prestige. As a mesmer you also have decoy, desperate decoy and trait prismatic understanding then there's absolutely no reason a thief should be able to find you. All these traits and skills are basically part of the meta condi build. You really have no excuse to lose to a thief as a mesmer as your condi application is superior to most builds.

Thief lost the last EU MAT, NA loses to EU every TOC so no one cares about NA MAT. Thief is a trash class now as bunker classes can easily 2v3 and don't have to leave points thus cancelling thief rotation/decap potential. Condi rev and nade holo are the hotness with warrior brining battle standard. Thief can't do anything in 1v1 and can barely get a down in a +1 against good players. TL;DR thief got deleted from the game.

BTW thief didnt win EU MAT, 2x Rev / 2x Holo / 1x Warrior did. No one cares about NA, they lose to EU every TOC.